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[meteorite-list] NYT storyCarl Agee agee at unm.edu
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Since I am quoted
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Martin
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. April 2011 08:49
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actually was.
Dave
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Date: Wednesday, April 6, 2011, 7:37 AM
Hello Shawn,
I think
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Since I am quoted in this article, here?s my reaction to it. The
reporter seems very confused, in that he lumps together a story about
Scherff
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Hi,
The blog in question is the Cloudy Nights Space Rocks forum. The
quote is from Lars Zielke.
Thanks,
Peter Scherff
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Hi,
The “blog” in question is the Cloudy Nights Space Rocks forum. The
quote is from Lars Zielke.
Thanks,
Peter Scherff
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Hello everybody,
Thank you Eric, and you are quite right, this was not an exact quote! ;-)
My interview lasted quite a bit longer than yours, but he only asked about
the meteorite world and market in general terms, and never mentioned Gemel
Kamil.
I have been doing some research, and
colleting world
even closers, and by doing so, we as a group will have a stronger understanding
where we stand when it comes to meteorites and the place they hold in the
evolution of the universe.
Shawn Alan
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. April 2011 20:53
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Hello Martin
I would have to agree people have their own neish when it comes
Hi list,
As a former paying subscriber to the New York Times electronic edition I
sometimes receive emails from them asking me to re-subscribe. Coincidentally
I received an email
from the NYT today offering me a discount if I subscribe again. Deep in the
sales talk I found their customer
Two things, first I put a rebuttal link on my web page so anybody who uses the
link in the article to go to my web page will find a link to comments posted on
the metlist by Dr Agee, Mike Farmer, and Martin Altmann. All comments used
with permission.
Second Adam Hupe wrote
I have a hard time
Two things, first I put a rebuttal link on my web page so anybody who uses
the link in the article to go to my web page will find a link to comments
posted on the metlist by Dr Agee, Mike Farmer, and Martin Altmann.
Well done, Eric, as many readers of the NYT article with a computer at hands
It seems some disagree with this statement I made earlier.
I have a hard time believing that any form of media would liable themselves by
putting quotes
around something that was completely made up.
I am not defending the NYT and think the article is poor.
It used to be when quote marks
Hi
Why would the NYT even use quote marks if what they print is inaccurate?
I can see them taking these responses out of context but changing what
somebody
said and placing quote marks around it is nothing short of liable.
While I agree with some of what you've written, the
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Hi
Why would the NYT even use quote marks if what they print is inaccurate?
I can see
raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Hi
Why would the NYT even use quote marks if what they print is inaccurate?
I can see them taking these responses out of context but changing what
somebody
said and placing quote marks
Since I am quoted in this article, here’s my reaction to it. The
reporter seems very confused, in that he lumps together a story about
the Gebel Kamil crater in Egypt and the legal meteorite trade (NWA)
based primarily in Morocco. During the interview with him I spent a
fair amount of time trying
Gesendet: 05.04.2011 17:28:10
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Since I am quoted in this article, here’s my reaction to it. The
reporter seems very confused, in that he lumps together a story about
the Gebel Kamil crater in Egypt and the legal meteorite
If it were me, I would not give the New York Times the time of day if asked to
do an interview. They have already proven themselves unworthy of accurately
reporting on meteorites. We do not need their input on NWA meteorites or any
others as they appear already biased by a member of the
:28:10 -0600
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Since I am quoted in this article, here’s my reaction to it. The
reporter seems very confused, in that he lumps together a story about
the Gebel Kamil crater in Egypt
Hi Adam, Listees, and Horrified Onlookers,
I think a couple of list-members spoke to the scientist you are
referring to, and he was misquoted or what he said was taken out of
context. It seems to me that the author of the article has an agenda
of some sort and he is looking for a dramatic story
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If it were me, I would not give the New York Times the time of day if asked to
do an interview. They have already proven themselves unworthy of accurately
reporting on meteorites. We do not need their input on NWA meteorites or any
Thanks Carl.
Kinda what I suspected. The latest film crew I entertained at the telescope
seemed nice enough, until after we finished up and were heading home when Sara
my fiancee complained about how they were treating her. I was completely
unaware of what was going on off camera.
I told her
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:13:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00), you wrote:
Hi all,
I cannot recall seeing accurate reporting on anything scientific in the Lame
Street Media.
Absolutely.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comicsid=1623
__
Visit the Archives at
The more letters to the editor that are written, the more likely it is
for one to be published:
Here's the instructions (Has to be done within 7 days of the article
and keep it under 150 words!):
http://www.nytimes.com/content/help/site/editorial/letters/letters.html?ref=letters
Here's advice on
I was driving home on Friday when a guy called and identified himself as a
reporter from the NY Times. He said he talked to this scientist (I didn't
catch the name) who thought collectors were bad for meteorite studies and then
he said he talked to Anne Black and she said that was B***
and behave different.
Regards,
Matthias
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Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:39 PM
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I was driving home on Friday when a guy called and identified himself
I have been silent on this list too long. I know that Anne Black, John
Kashuba,
Myself and Many, Many others on this list have lent and or donated material to
those poor underfunded researchers that have led to significant new findings
and
understandings of planetary mineralogy. Without
Hi everyone,
Besides the terrible reporting and obvious bias, I was curious about
the meteorite blogger in the article who said he/she was feeling
guilty. What?? We have no idea who this is or if that person exists. I
find it amazing the editor let that go through.
Bob
Very good catch on the Bob! I can't believe I missed that. How in the
world did the editor let that quote slide without a source? I wonder if
it was said at all.
Regards,
Eric
On 4/5/2011 5:20 PM, Bob King wrote:
Hi everyone,
Besides the terrible reporting and obvious bias, I was curious
Hi Bob and List,
It's not a blogger or blog, as the article said. It's a message
board. The person who uttered the quote is a real person. I've been
a member of that astronomy message board for years before I discovered
meteorites (via Bob!). As I stated in the original message board
thread,
PM
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Very good catch on the Bob! I can't believe I missed that. How in the
world did the editor let that quote slide without a source? I wonder if
it was said at all.
Regards,
Eric
On 4/5/2011 5:20 PM, Bob King wrote
Mike, You said at the time... what was the date on that original post?
And how many comments were made afterward in that forum thread? Got a link?
Eric
On 4/5/2011 5:34 PM, Michael Gilmer wrote:
Hi Bob and List,
It's not a blogger or blog, as the article said. It's a message
board. The
Hi Eric and list,
Here's the thread:
http://tinyurl.com/3kbowog
Bob
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 6:53 PM, Meteorites USA e...@meteoritesusa.com wrote:
Mike, You said at the time... what was the date on that original post? And
how many comments were made afterward in that forum thread? Got a link?
Thanks Bob for the link!
Just so everyone on the Met-List knows, because some may not follow this
thread or topic on other forums, I think Met-List members who won't
click the link to view this very long thread/topic would be interested
to know that the person who said that quote in the NYT
Hi list members... I'm looking for a copy of yesterday's NYT paper this
article is in.
A version of this article appeared in print on April 5, 2011, on page
D1 of the New York edition.
Please email me if you might have a copy of this NYT newspaper. Cash now
via Paypal!
Regards,
Eric
, 2011 10:11 PM
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Hi list members... I'm looking for a copy of yesterday's NYT paper this
article is in.
A version of this article appeared in print on April 5, 2011, on page D1
of the New York edition.
Please email me if you might have a copy of this NYT
/science/05meteorite.html?scp=1sq=meteoritesst=cse
Ed
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:11 PM
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Hi list members... I'm looking for a copy
G'Day Everyone
With the little time I have, I've been watching this thread develop.
Personally, I feel fuel has been added to the fire. The constant hits on
the NYT site will add to a fever pitch for those involved and I can see
a follow up developing because of so much interest. They aren't going
Hi Johnno,
You are correct sir. The NYT is not going to post a rebuttal and they
are not going to vett their material or sources. The National
Enquirer or the Weekly World News have more journalistic integrity.
Sadly, many laypeople who don't know better are going to read this
piece of flotsam
Message - From: Meteorites USA
e...@meteoritesusa.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NYT story
Hi list members... I'm looking for a copy of yesterday's NYT paper
this article is in.
A version of this article
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