Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Now : Korea Fall)
Good question. I heard he was in Korea, but not much since then. Have any stones hit the market yet? Is the official classification underway? Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 4/4/14, E eego...@gmail.com wrote: Any news from Robert Ward, anyone? With the silence, you'd think it fell in North Korea instead of the South. On 5 Apr, 2014, at 7:39, valpar...@aol.com wrote: Why do we have to waste time with this.? Giant fall two weeks ago in South Korea and like 3 posts about it. Some idiotic crap and the lost goes wild. Paul Swartz The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work magic these days. Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head cut by a meteorite? The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall, usually zero interest. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Now : Korea Fall)
Yeah...he is romping around FaceBook. Still Kicking, no ticks! Jim On 4/6/2014 9:33 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Good question. I heard he was in Korea, but not much since then. Have any stones hit the market yet? Is the official classification underway? Best regards and Happy Huntings, MikeG -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Hello everyone - my first post! Not sure this specific link has been discussed? Additional info/insight from Universe Today (www.universetoday.com; Apparently, not an April Fools' Day joke?): http://www.universetoday.com/110963/norwegian-skydiver-almost-gets-hit-by-falling-meteor-and-captures-it-on-film/ Thanks for the list - Art, and participants. I have learned a lot from many contributors. Best wishes...Jerry (Kentucky) Sent from my iPad On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Alexander Seidel) 2. Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Shawn Alan) 3. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Jim Wooddell) 4. 5,000+ Year Old Egyptian Iron Meteorite Beads (Shawn Alan) 5. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Michael Farmer) 6. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 7. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 8. NASA Mars Rover Curiosity Scoping Out Next StudyArea (Ron Baalke) 9. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com) 10. HOBA IVB metal slices and historic Mezo_Madaraschondrite L3.7 slice for sale (c...@t-online.hu) 11. Morten Bilet's e-mail address (Bob King) 12. Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (J Sinclair) 13. Ad : Battle Mountain, Berduc, NWA 7831 (Dio) Micromounts, ANSMET 2002 Patch, Jason Borst Meteorite Pendant (Galactic Stone Ironworks) 14. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Martin Goff) 15. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Graham Ensor) Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Alexander Seidel) 2. Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Shawn Alan) 3. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Jim Wooddell) 4. 5,000+ Year Old Egyptian Iron Meteorite Beads (Shawn Alan) 5. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Michael Farmer) 6. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 7. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 8. NASA Mars Rover Curiosity Scoping Out Next StudyArea (Ron Baalke) 9. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com) 10. HOBA IVB metal slices and historic Mezo_Madaraschondrite L3.7 slice for sale (c...@t-online.hu) 11. Morten Bilet's e-mail address (Bob King) 12. Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (J Sinclair) 13. Ad : Battle Mountain, Berduc, NWA 7831 (Dio) Micromounts, ANSMET 2002 Patch, Jason Borst Meteorite Pendant (Galactic Stone Ironworks) 14. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Martin Goff) 15. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Graham Ensor) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 00:39:37 +0200 From: Alexander Seidel alex.sei...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov,Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: trinity-75110f83-0dc4-42c4-a5db-a2d42a798515-1396564777608@3capp-gmx-bs05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If this were so, it would be quite an irresponsible action, just as if someone dropped a big stone from a cliff or a skyscraper, not caring for any potentially valuable things or even living persons on the ground. I hope this was not so, and I still believe that this was nothing but a cleverly arranged April?s fool joke, which indeed seems to irritate a lot of persons here and elsewhere. Time will tell, as probably
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Hey Kids: Saw this video on the local news here in Atlanta today. I'm surprised they would show this without checking its veracity. Just goes to show you can't believe everything you hear or SEE! Anita From: JLG Hotmail jerry...@hotmail.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Hello everyone - my first post! Not sure this specific link has been discussed? Additional info/insight from Universe Today (http://www.universetoday.com/; Apparently, not an April Fools' Day joke?): http://www.universetoday.com/110963/norwegian-skydiver-almost-gets-hit-by-falling-meteor-and-captures-it-on-film/ Thanks for the list - Art, and participants. I have learned a lot from many contributors. Best wishes...Jerry (Kentucky) Sent from my iPad On Apr 4, 2014, at 11:00 AM, meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com wrote: Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Alexander Seidel) 2. Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Shawn Alan) 3. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Jim Wooddell) 4. 5,000+ Year Old Egyptian Iron Meteorite Beads (Shawn Alan) 5. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Michael Farmer) 6. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 7. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 8. NASA Mars Rover Curiosity Scoping Out Next Study Area (Ron Baalke) 9. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com) 10. HOBA IVB metal slices and historic Mezo_Madaras chondrite L3.7 slice for sale (c...@t-online.hu) 11. Morten Bilet's e-mail address (Bob King) 12. Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (J Sinclair) 13. Ad : Battle Mountain, Berduc, NWA 7831 (Dio) Micromounts, ANSMET 2002 Patch, Jason Borst Meteorite Pendant (Galactic Stone Ironworks) 14. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Martin Goff) 15. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Graham Ensor) Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to meteorite-list-requ...@meteoritecentral.com You can reach the person managing the list at meteorite-list-ow...@meteoritecentral.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Meteorite-list digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Alexander Seidel) 2. Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Shawn Alan) 3. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Jim Wooddell) 4. 5,000+ Year Old Egyptian Iron Meteorite Beads (Shawn Alan) 5. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (Michael Farmer) 6. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 7. Re: Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite (rickm...@earthlink.net) 8. NASA Mars Rover Curiosity Scoping Out Next Study Area (Ron Baalke) 9. Meteorite Picture of the Day (valpar...@aol.com) 10. HOBA IVB metal slices and historic Mezo_Madaras chondrite L3.7 slice for sale (c...@t-online.hu) 11. Morten Bilet's e-mail address (Bob King) 12. Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (J Sinclair) 13. Ad : Battle Mountain, Berduc, NWA 7831 (Dio) Micromounts, ANSMET 2002 Patch, Jason Borst Meteorite Pendant (Galactic Stone Ironworks) 14. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Martin Goff) 15. Re: Chelyabinsk Meteorite Falling in Dark Flight (Graham Ensor) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 00:39:37 +0200 From: Alexander Seidel alex.sei...@gmx.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com Cc: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov, Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Message-ID: trinity-75110f83-0dc4-42c4-a5db-a2d42a798515-1396564777608@3capp-gmx-bs05 Content
[meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Why do we have to waste time with this.? Giant fall two weeks ago in South Korea and like 3 posts about it. Some idiotic crap and the lost goes wild. Paul Swartz The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work magic these days. Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head cut by a meteorite? The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall, usually zero interest. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Any news from Robert Ward, anyone? With the silence, you'd think it fell in North Korea instead of the South. On 5 Apr, 2014, at 7:39, valpar...@aol.com wrote: Why do we have to waste time with this.? Giant fall two weeks ago in South Korea and like 3 posts about it. Some idiotic crap and the lost goes wild. Paul Swartz The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work magic these days. Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head cut by a meteorite? The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall, usually zero interest. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Hmm. Just looks like someone packed a rock in their canopy, either accidentally or on purpose and it popped out when the chute unfurled. (Or could just be be a 4114) Odds of it happening, massive, odds of the rock being just the right size to show up on camera - massive, odds, of the rock being nicely 50% fusion crusted to make it look more like a meteorite - massive, and the grey interior facing the camera nicely- massive most of the way through the shot- massive. Occam's razor says.. Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Tom Randall Sent: 03 April 2014 15:29 To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his pack came out when parachute deployed or scam. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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More likely one of the rocks in his head rattled out of his ear and struck him. Cheers Don - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com Cc: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his pack came out when parachute deployed or scam. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hello Great storry but dont You think that this object looks strange ? Check 5:17 where is the closeup. Maybe its just camera resolution but this dont have color and shape of meteorite. -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl http://www.PolandMET.com marcin(at)polandmet.com http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM: +48 (793) 567667 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ] Hmm. Just looks like someone packed a rock in their canopy, either accidentally or on purpose and it popped out when the chute unfurled. (Or could just be be a 4114) Odds of it happening, massive, odds of the rock being just the right size to show up on camera - massive, odds, of the rock being nicely 50% fusion crusted to make it look more like a meteorite - massive, and the grey interior facing the camera nicely- massive most of the way through the shot- massive. Occam's razor says.. Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Tom Randall Sent: 03 April 2014 15:29 To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast. - Lewis Carroll Although I tend to agree that it more than likely is not a falling meteorite. Michael in so. Cal. On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his pack came out when parachute deployed or scam. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
He says he's flying in front of Jon Vegard who then enters the same airspace as the rock. That rock might have come from Jon. On 3 Apr, 2014, at 23:51, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his pack came out when parachute deployed or scam. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2014, at 7:29 AM, Tom Randall tommy2...@hvc.rr.com wrote: Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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It is not mathematically impossible, just very unlikely. While I agree that there are more likely explanations than a meteorite, nothing is obviously faked (on casual inspection), and it's dangerous to label something as fake (which implies deception), or even just wrong, on nothing more than statistical uncertainty. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 9:51 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his pack came out when parachute deployed or scam. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower end given the tumbling). That seems about right given the few frames it appears in (of course, estimating both size and distance is difficult). The camera is fixed focus, with everything beyond a few feet being in good focus; again, the image looks about right for what I'd expect a meteorite (or any stone) falling a few meters away to record. In bright daylight, the camera's frame exposure time could have been just a few thousandths of a second, so freezing the motion isn't unreasonable. Again, I'm not saying that a meteorite is the best explanation, just that nothing leaps out as suggesting it isn't. If it actually were a meteorite, finding it might not be that hard. It would be falling vertically (with an offset for the wind, but they wouldn't be jumping in high winds), and they were only a thousand meters or so up, so the rock should have hit almost immediately below the jumper. I don't know if that camera GPS tags the video or not- that would be great. But I'd think that between the front and back cameras, calculating a ground position could be done with pretty high accuracy. The area they were searching on the video seemed much too large. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 1:08 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: I just don't see how the camera could even focus at those speeds, the skydiver and rock intersecting at what, 300+ mph minimum? How could the camera catch it in focus? For even a split second. It is just all to crazy to believe. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Elton and list, NASA Goddard Images just tweeted a photo from this event. I tweeted back this must be a hoax. I think the odds are slim for it to be a meteorite but hey, I'm no Expert. It may be remotely possible I suppose. Regards! Tom On 04/03/2014 03:34 PM, MEM wrote: Picking up on part of what Chis stated: Statistics of probability mean nothing in the relm of possibility. so this is not a valid argument against this being the real thing based on probability alone. Nothing I've seen/read prevents this from being 'bonna fide' video of a falling (soon to be) meteorite. Be it remembered that secondary fusion crust is often light gray. Statistically, it was improbable that Michelle Knapp's Malibu would be struck by a meteoroid which entered the atmosphere several states away. Statistically, a meteorite wouldn't likely fall at the edge a green where a golfer was putting. Statistically a meteorite wouldn't be likely to punch through a house in Alabama, bounce off the radio/tv and, exactly strike a woman relining on a sofa. Statistically all these events are remote, yes-- but not only were they possible they happened and we take their improbability without a blink or a nod. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Picking up on part of what Chis stated: Statistics of probability mean nothing in the relm of possibility. so this is not a valid argument against this being the real thing based on probability alone. Nothing I've seen/read prevents this from being 'bonna fide' video of a falling (soon to be) meteorite. Be it remembered that secondary fusion crust is often light gray. Statistically, it was improbable that Michelle Knapp's Malibu would be struck by a meteoroid which entered the atmosphere several states away. Statistically, a meteorite wouldn't likely fall at the edge a green where a golfer was putting. Statistically a meteorite wouldn't be likely to punch through a house in Alabama, bounce off the radio/tv and, exactly strike a woman relining on a sofa. Statistically all these events are remote, yes-- but not only were they possible they happened and we take their improbability without a blink or a nod. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I just don't see how the camera could even focus at those speeds, the skydiver and rock intersecting at what, 300+ mph minimum? How could the camera catch it in focus? For even a split second. It is just all to crazy to believe. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: It is not mathematically impossible, just very unlikely. While I agree that there are more likely explanations than a meteorite, nothing is obviously faked (on casual inspection), and it's dangerous to label something as fake (which implies deception), or even just wrong, on nothing more than statistical uncertainty. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 9:51 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his pack came out when parachute deployed or scam. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower end given the tumbling). The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity. Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi, This is how it looks to me: the skydiver above dropped a rock and it passed near the skydiver beneath him. Ron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I agree it is possible. The resolution and focus of the GoPro camera is well capabile of making that video. Terminal velocity is around 120mph and the diver would be traveling about the same as the rock at that height. Stuart McDaniel .(i.mobile).. On Apr 3, 2014, at 15:34, MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote: Picking up on part of what Chis stated: Statistics of probability mean nothing in the relm of possibility. so this is not a valid argument against this being the real thing based on probability alone. Nothing I've seen/read prevents this from being 'bonna fide' video of a falling (soon to be) meteorite. Be it remembered that secondary fusion crust is often light gray. Statistically, it was improbable that Michelle Knapp's Malibu would be struck by a meteoroid which entered the atmosphere several states away. Statistically, a meteorite wouldn't likely fall at the edge a green where a golfer was putting. Statistically a meteorite wouldn't be likely to punch through a house in Alabama, bounce off the radio/tv and, exactly strike a woman relining on a sofa. Statistically all these events are remote, yes-- but not only were they possible they happened and we take their improbability without a blink or a nod. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Not the same, there are a hundred million cars in the USA to hit, countless millions of houses, how many skydivers in the air at any given time on the planet? Perhaps 50 or so? Doesn't seem likely to me. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:34 PM, MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote: Picking up on part of what Chis stated: Statistics of probability mean nothing in the relm of possibility. so this is not a valid argument against this being the real thing based on probability alone. Nothing I've seen/read prevents this from being 'bonna fide' video of a falling (soon to be) meteorite. Be it remembered that secondary fusion crust is often light gray. Statistically, it was improbable that Michelle Knapp's Malibu would be struck by a meteoroid which entered the atmosphere several states away. Statistically, a meteorite wouldn't likely fall at the edge a green where a golfer was putting. Statistically a meteorite wouldn't be likely to punch through a house in Alabama, bounce off the radio/tv and, exactly strike a woman relining on a sofa. Statistically all these events are remote, yes-- but not only were they possible they happened and we take their improbability without a blink or a nod. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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No different the guy being in the air filming to being on the groundmillions of cameras recording these days...so the chance of one being filmed on the way down is improving all the time...just because he was in the air does not make it less likely than any other camera around the world. Watching the video they seem to be genuine people...and if it was a scam they would likely have promoted it back in 2012 when it happenedrather than leave it till now. We will probably never know the truth as the terrain to search seems too difficult. I think it is perfectly possible but unlikelythat's all that can be said I think. On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote: Not the same, there are a hundred million cars in the USA to hit, countless millions of houses, how many skydivers in the air at any given time on the planet? Perhaps 50 or so? Doesn't seem likely to me. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:34 PM, MEM mstrema...@yahoo.com wrote: Picking up on part of what Chis stated: Statistics of probability mean nothing in the relm of possibility. so this is not a valid argument against this being the real thing based on probability alone. Nothing I've seen/read prevents this from being 'bonna fide' video of a falling (soon to be) meteorite. Be it remembered that secondary fusion crust is often light gray. Statistically, it was improbable that Michelle Knapp's Malibu would be struck by a meteoroid which entered the atmosphere several states away. Statistically, a meteorite wouldn't likely fall at the edge a green where a golfer was putting. Statistically a meteorite wouldn't be likely to punch through a house in Alabama, bounce off the radio/tv and, exactly strike a woman relining on a sofa. Statistically all these events are remote, yes-- but not only were they possible they happened and we take their improbability without a blink or a nod. Elton __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Hi, in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were neither a supersonic bang nor visible luminosic effects. It looks strange that a further skydiver appeared shortly after the stone passed the camera. But I aggree, the statistic argument is not valid, because *every* single event in our life can be calculated extremely improbable, a priori. If nobody wants it to have reproduced, the (a priori) likelyhood of a single event does not say it could have occured. Greetings Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I too believe it is possible HOWEVER: I would more easily believe that two Norwegian parachutists would lie than that stones would fall from heaven! - I would more easily believe that two Yankee professors would lie than that stones would fall from heaven Thomas Jefferson - Seriously though has anyone asked people in the area on the ground if they heard anything on the day besides a buzzing airplane? Any Radar? they must have been very near a landingstrip / airport for that kind of activity. I don't think the video is fake (GO-PROS are highly capable) but the event may have been deliberately set up given the agility of those winged suits, the guy from above shown seconds later or one of the several others could have released a light weight plaster cast (less chance of injury) of a real meteorite like say from NWA that will eventually turn up as the real thing. I would want Radar imagery and verified ground reports of an event from people NOT involved with the Oslo Parachute Club Until then I have seen Cirque du Soleil do more amazing feats of orchestrated acrobatic flying and they are in a tent. Paul Gessler -Original Message- From: Tom Randall Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 7:29 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3722/6786 - Release Date: 04/02/14 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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...does not say it could have occured. - Sorry, I fogot a NOT: A low (a priori) probability does not say, the single event could _NOT_ have occurred. Greetings, Martin Martin Neukamm martin.neuk...@mytum.de wrote: Hi, in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were neither a supersonic bang nor visible luminosic effects. It looks strange that a further skydiver appeared shortly after the stone passed the camera. But I aggree, the statistic argument is not valid, because *every* single event in our life can be calculated extremely improbable, a priori. If nobody wants it to have reproduced, the (a priori) likelyhood of a single event does not say it could have occured. Greetings Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Daytime fireballs are easily missed, and small meteorites can be produced with neither a significant fireball nor any audible atmospheric acoustics. A fireball would have been several minutes earlier, and most acoustics as well. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 3:00 PM, Martin Neukamm wrote: Hi, in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were neither a supersonic bang nor visible luminosic effects. It looks strange that a further skydiver appeared shortly after the stone passed the camera. But I aggree, the statistic argument is not valid, because *every* single event in our life can be calculated extremely improbable, a priori. If nobody wants it to have reproduced, the (a priori) likelyhood of a single event does not say it could have occured. Greetings Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly slowly with respect to terminal velocity. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower end given the tumbling). The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity. Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Nothing but an intelligent April Fool - well done! :-) There´s a bit tooo much smile on all the faces, the falling stone scene is way too unrealistic, and I believe, this is just a brilliant hoax done by people (like Morten) with a lot of humour, phantasy and technical skills... Alex Berlin/Germany Gesendet: Donnerstag, 03. April 2014 um 23:11 Uhr Von: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Daytime fireballs are easily missed, and small meteorites can be produced with neither a significant fireball nor any audible atmospheric acoustics. A fireball would have been several minutes earlier, and most acoustics as well. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 3:00 PM, Martin Neukamm wrote: Hi, in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were neither a supersonic bang nor visible luminosic effects. It looks strange that a further skydiver appeared shortly after the stone passed the camera. But I aggree, the statistic argument is not valid, because *every* single event in our life can be calculated extremely improbable, a priori. If nobody wants it to have reproduced, the (a priori) likelyhood of a single event does not say it could have occured. Greetings Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I agree with you Alex. An April's fool day joke, just a little late. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Alexander Seidel alex.sei...@gmx.net To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Cc: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 3:27 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Nothing but an intelligent April Fool - well done! :-) There´s a bit tooo much smile on all the faces, the falling stone scene is way too unrealistic, and I believe, this is just a brilliant hoax done by people (like Morten) with a lot of humour, phantasy and technical skills... Alex Berlin/Germany Gesendet: Donnerstag, 03. April 2014 um 23:11 Uhr Von: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Daytime fireballs are easily missed, and small meteorites can be produced with neither a significant fireball nor any audible atmospheric acoustics. A fireball would have been several minutes earlier, and most acoustics as well. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 3:00 PM, Martin Neukamm wrote: Hi, in the German internet forum the question arose, why there were neither a supersonic bang nor visible luminosic effects. It looks strange that a further skydiver appeared shortly after the stone passed the camera. But I aggree, the statistic argument is not valid, because *every* single event in our life can be calculated extremely improbable, a priori. If nobody wants it to have reproduced, the (a priori) likelyhood of a single event does not say it could have occured. Greetings Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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It certainly could be a hoax. If so, however, it's instructional, because it seems technically accurate. Most people trying to fake something like this would probably have flames and smoke coming off the object. That's what we typically see with fakes. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 3:30 PM, Anne Black wrote: I agree with you Alex. An April's fool day joke, just a little late. Anne M. Black __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Ha Maybe it was April Fools'Day? ;-) Woreczko http://www.woreczko.pl http://wiki.meteoritica.pl - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite I just don't see how the camera could even focus at those speeds, the skydiver and rock intersecting at what, 300+ mph minimum? How could the camera catch it in focus? For even a split second. It is just all to crazy to believe. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: It is not mathematically impossible, just very unlikely. While I agree that there are more likely explanations than a meteorite, nothing is obviously faked (on casual inspection), and it's dangerous to label something as fake (which implies deception), or even just wrong, on nothing more than statistical uncertainty. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 9:51 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: Fake, absolutely mathematically impossible. More likely a small stone in his pack came out when parachute deployed or scam. Michael Farmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Let's consider the probability of a skydiver filming a meteoroid in dark flight compared to his buddy just above him dropping a rock. Double facepalm, Phil Whitmer - Original Message - From: Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:37:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite It certainly could be a hoax. If so, however, it's instructional, because it seems technically accurate. Most people trying to fake something like this would probably have flames and smoke coming off the object. That's what we typically see with fakes. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 3:30 PM, Anne Black wrote: I agree with you Alex. An April's fool day joke, just a little late. Anne M. Black __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I just don't see how the camera could even focus at those speeds, the skydiver and rock intersecting at what, 300+ mph minimum? How could the camera catch it in focus? For even a split second. It is just all to crazy to believe. Michael Farmer Do not forget that both meteorite (if genuine) and skydiver were in free fall, so the vertical speed difference between the two might not have been that big. I remain agnostic on this case. Could be true, could be not. By the way, having recently searched in a forest: even when the area to search is only a few hundreds of meters wide, it is hell to do. - Marco - Dr Marco (asteroid 183294) Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) e-mail: d...@marcolangbroek.nl http://www.dmsweb.org http://www.marcolangbroek.nl - __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Of course, as I said earlier, there are much more likely scenarios than a meteorite. I was just taking exception with any blind assertion that this was fake, absent clear evidence of such. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 3:41 PM, Dori Fry wrote: Let's consider the probability of a skydiver filming a meteoroid in dark flight compared to his buddy just above him dropping a rock. Double facepalm, Phil Whitmer __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I agree fully that is most likely explanation. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi, This is how it looks to me: the skydiver above dropped a rock and it passed near the skydiver beneath him. Ron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Now we're talking! Seems like elaborate lie to me. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Paul Gessler cetu...@shaw.ca wrote: I too believe it is possible HOWEVER: I would more easily believe that two Norwegian parachutists would lie than that stones would fall from heaven! - I would more easily believe that two Yankee professors would lie than that stones would fall from heaven Thomas Jefferson - Seriously though has anyone asked people in the area on the ground if they heard anything on the day besides a buzzing airplane? Any Radar? they must have been very near a landingstrip / airport for that kind of activity. I don't think the video is fake (GO-PROS are highly capable) but the event may have been deliberately set up given the agility of those winged suits, the guy from above shown seconds later or one of the several others could have released a light weight plaster cast (less chance of injury) of a real meteorite like say from NWA that will eventually turn up as the real thing. I would want Radar imagery and verified ground reports of an event from people NOT involved with the Oslo Parachute Club Until then I have seen Cirque du Soleil do more amazing feats of orchestrated acrobatic flying and they are in a tent. Paul Gessler -Original Message- From: Tom Randall Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 7:29 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Just saw this video. Not sure I buy it. What do you all think? http://www.nrk.no/viten/skydiver-nearly-struck-by-meteorite-1.11646757 Regards! Tom __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3722/6786 - Release Date: 04/02/14 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
The jumper already has his shoot open. An expert diver with a high performance shoot could still be going very fast, of course, but in all likelihood there would be a pretty good delta-v in this case (it looks like his jumping partner sails past pretty quickly still in free fall). Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 3:44 PM, Marco Langbroek wrote: Do not forget that both meteorite (if genuine) and skydiver were in free fall, so the vertical speed difference between the two might not have been that big. I remain agnostic on this case. Could be true, could be not. By the way, having recently searched in a forest: even when the area to search is only a few hundreds of meters wide, it is hell to do. - Marco __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I would be more impressed if a scuba diver was struck by a meteorite. ;) - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 4/3/14, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly slowly with respect to terminal velocity. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower end given the tumbling). The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity. Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
If this were so, it would be quite an irresponsible action, just as if someone dropped a big stone from a cliff or a skyscraper, not caring for any potentially valuable things or even living persons on the ground. I hope this was not so, and I still believe that this was nothing but a cleverly arranged April´s fool joke, which indeed seems to irritate a lot of persons here and elsewhere. Time will tell, as probably some of the involved well-known persons will make a statement as time goes by... Alex Berlin/Germany Gesendet: Donnerstag, 03. April 2014 um 23:17 Uhr Von: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com An: Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov Cc: Meteorite Mailing List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite I agree fully that is most likely explanation. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:16 PM, Ron Baalke baa...@zagami.jpl.nasa.gov wrote: Hi, This is how it looks to me: the skydiver above dropped a rock and it passed near the skydiver beneath him. Ron __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Hello Listers What I don't get is this happened in 2012 and now its coming out? I wonder if there is any evidence with sonic booms or other key elements to back this story up? Cause of right now I think its just a small rock that came from some ones parachute when it opened up or a big hoax. Does anyone know what size they think the stone might be in the video? Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633nyc/m.html Meteoritefalls.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Some math wiz is going to prove thisI kind of have a feeling.. My voteNot a meteor. Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work magic these days. Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head cut by a meteorite? The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall, usually zero interest. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: I would be more impressed if a scuba diver was struck by a meteorite. ;) - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 4/3/14, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly slowly with respect to terminal velocity. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower end given the tumbling). The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity. Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Pretty good production work (I saw Star Wars one time, and thoroughly enjoyed the epic award-winning animation Bolt (you've all gotta see it...its great!)...yet s many posts I'm not going to wade through them all. Meteorite in the room question (which probably has already been posted): what happened to the stone? If I'm Mr. Skydiver Guy, I'd follow it. Just sayin' -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 3:12 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work magic these days. Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head cut by a meteorite? The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall, usually zero interest. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: I would be more impressed if a scuba diver was struck by a meteorite. ;) - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 4/3/14, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly slowly with respect to terminal velocity. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower end given the tumbling). The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity. Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite
Never know wing-suit divers to ride tandem, either. -Original Message- From: rickm...@earthlink.net Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 5:08 PM To: Michael Farmer ; Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite Pretty good production work (I saw Star Wars one time, and thoroughly enjoyed the epic award-winning animation Bolt (you've all gotta see it...its great!)...yet s many posts I'm not going to wade through them all. Meteorite in the room question (which probably has already been posted): what happened to the stone? If I'm Mr. Skydiver Guy, I'd follow it. Just sayin' -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 3:12 PM To: Galactic Stone Ironworks Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Norwegian skydiver nearly struck by meteorite The internet is filled with production quality fake videos and stunts. Anyone with a $2000 Mac and a go-pro and some editing software can work magic these days. Why is this one any more believable than the kid who said he had his head cut by a meteorite? The news eats this crap up as fast as it can, yet when real meteorites fall, usually zero interest. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:58 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: I would be more impressed if a scuba diver was struck by a meteorite. ;) - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 4/3/14, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote: Yes, although with his shoot deployed, he's probably traveling fairly slowly with respect to terminal velocity. Chris *** Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com On 4/3/2014 2:13 PM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: I'd put the terminal velocity for a stone of that apparent size between 50 and 100 m/s. Say, between 100 and 200 mph (and I'd lean towards the lower end given the tumbling). The sky divers are falling, so the relative speed between them and the rock would be even less than the rock's terminal velocity. Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
