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I really don't think this discussion belongs here, but since you are talking about the area where I grew up, rather than just where you drive through, I feel I must comment. The San Joaquin/Central Valley of California is so vast that it has more than one common name. You can't treat it like it's one place for agriculture. The agriculture in the north is very different from the south, and that of the west is very different from the east. The source of water for agriculture on the east side is underground or from canals that originate in the Sierra Nevada. Each drought has put pressure on both sources, but agriculture still thrives. The biggest issue on the east side is that the population keeps expanding into the farm land. As a result the water table keeps going lower. The source of water on the west side is underground and the Sacramento river delta. The delta water was promised to farmers but never fully delivered. When the wetlands started to disappear the water rations were set ever lower (thus the signs about the government). With large populations, wild lands, and agriculture all fighting for the same water something is going to have to give. This is not a matter of over-regulation, but one of necessary resource management. Better ways of using the water with less waste, both for the residents and by farmers is the only reasonable solution, and of course, people like our friend here will cry foul about that, but this is simply a natural result of having so many people living in such close quarters. You can't just pretend it's still the wild west and let everybody use all the water they'd like to. Between all the ads and the non-meteorite related political discussion on this list I am considering unsubscribing. Greg On 12/9/2014 1:16 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: I would say it is more the fault of farming in a land where it never rains! The Central Valley may have great temperatures for farming, but it has no rainfall. Sin we have a 16 year drought, I guess farming the sand is ending poorly. Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:43 PM, GREG LINDH via Meteorite-list wrote: Yeah, well CA doesn't put out as much produce as it used to. Whenever I go back to CA from AZ, in order to visit family, I drive up and down Interstate 5. For practically the whole I-5 part of my trip I see empty, dusty fields where there used to be beautiful orchards and lands full of all kinds of fruits and vegetables. Now, just dusty, empty fields..oh yeah, and hundreds of signs that say, "Congress Created Dustbowl". Yup, devastated, dry land, all because Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and crew wanted to save a minnow in the California Aqueduct. If I'm not mistaken, that minnow is not even native to the region. It was imported. That's CA for you. Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 16:17:39 -0800 To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, but California is our nation's produce isle. Michael is so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, most of it now comes from Mexico. Again, no thanks, Adam Drive at your own risk - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" To: "Raremeteorites" Cc: "Meteorite List"
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I am still appalled at how wildlife has become political. The spotted owl, the desert tortoise and now the non-native, spotted rainbow minnow are all listed as endangered species! It is not difficult to find a spotted owl at night but researchers look for them during the day. The desert tortoise lives underground and researchers look for them during the wrong time of the year and in the wrong places. You will not find a desert tortoise in the middle of a dried lake bed in the middle of Summer. They use the tortoise for political purposes to shut down vast areas of land. The federal government tried to relocated 1,200 to build a Chinese sponsored solar plant just to have them euphonized. They even tried to claim they were wiped out of an area they never existed in the first place. I found a dead tortoise with a transmitter glued to its back. The brass transmitter snagged on a mesquite bush and that is where the tortoise met its slow and painful demise. As far as the spotted rainbow minnow goes, we will let California politics handle this one! It sounds like somebody is trying to gain control of water rights. The interesting thing is that the aquifers are recovering nicely in LA and other counties since agricultural demand has rapidly decreased. Adam - Original Message - From: "Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list" To: "Jim Wooddell" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:49 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List Check out Florida's orange crop. Right now massive die off of millions of orange trees due to imported virus. Ask those farmers how happy they are that someone brought in a plant with a virus that is now costing them (and taxpayers) billions of dollars. Sent from my iPad On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list wrote: For those that don't live in the US, You try and send us flowers, all hell will break out. And lord help us all if the flowers have dirt on them, we will go into a level 2 alert. However, we welcome Ebola and other nasty stuff!We are just a little different! That is all. Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Check out Florida's orange crop. Right now massive die off of millions of orange trees due to imported virus. Ask those farmers how happy they are that someone brought in a plant with a virus that is now costing them (and taxpayers) billions of dollars. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > For those that don't live in the US, > > You try and send us flowers, all hell will break out. And lord help us all > if the flowers have dirt on them, we will go into a level 2 alert. > > However, we welcome Ebola and other nasty stuff!We are just a little > different! > > That is all. > > Jim > > > -- > Jim Wooddell > jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net > http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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For those that don't live in the US, You try and send us flowers, all hell will break out. And lord help us all if the flowers have dirt on them, we will go into a level 2 alert. However, we welcome Ebola and other nasty stuff!We are just a little different! That is all. Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I would say it is more the fault of farming in a land where it never rains! The Central Valley may have great temperatures for farming, but it has no rainfall. Sin we have a 16 year drought, I guess farming the sand is ending poorly. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 9, 2014, at 12:43 PM, GREG LINDH via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Yeah, well CA doesn't put out as much produce as it used to. Whenever I go > back to CA from AZ, in order to visit family, I drive up and down Interstate > 5. For practically the whole I-5 part of my trip I see empty, dusty fields > where there used to be beautiful orchards and lands full of all kinds of > fruits and vegetables. Now, just dusty, empty fields..oh yeah, and > hundreds of signs that say, "Congress Created Dustbowl". Yup, devastated, dry > land, all because Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and crew wanted to save a > minnow in the California Aqueduct. If I'm not mistaken, that minnow is not > even native to the region. It was imported. That's CA for you. > > > >> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 16:17:39 -0800 >> To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net >> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >> From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower >> than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an >> almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? >> >> California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's >> drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire >> country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower >> fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so >> yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. >> Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, >> we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. >> >> And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a >> huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, >> but California is our nation's produce isle. >> >> Michael is so. Cal. >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >>> I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment >>> properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as >>> it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go >>> bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not >>> know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into >>> the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they >>> can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went >>> airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since >>> California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. >>> >>> I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, >>> most of it now comes from Mexico. >>> >>> Again, no thanks, >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> Drive at your own risk >>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" >>> To: "Raremeteorites" >>> Cc: "Meteorite List" >>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >>> >>> >>>> No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce >>>> production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact >>>> protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of >>>> my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, >>>> chances are they were grown here). >>>> >>>> Michael in so. Cal. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax >>>>> payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can >>>>> tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the >>>>> condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go >>>>> from >>>>> a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road >>>
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A famous use of tax payers money: The 3 million dollar shrimp project was cut due to the 1 billion dollar minnow project:: Here is a link to the now famous Mantis Shrimp: http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=shrimp+treadmill&ei=UTF-8&fr=yff40c I bet the Mantis Shrimp could mop the floor with the imported Minnow. I can see it now, pay-per-view, "Sammy the Shrimp Versus Meany the Minnow" - Original Message - From: "GREG LINDH via Meteorite-list" To: "Michael Mulgrew" ; "meteorite-list" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List Yeah, well CA doesn't put out as much produce as it used to. Whenever I go back to CA from AZ, in order to visit family, I drive up and down Interstate 5. For practically the whole I-5 part of my trip I see empty, dusty fields where there used to be beautiful orchards and lands full of all kinds of fruits and vegetables. Now, just dusty, empty fields..oh yeah, and hundreds of signs that say, "Congress Created Dustbowl". Yup, devastated, dry land, all because Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and crew wanted to save a minnow in the California Aqueduct. If I'm not mistaken, that minnow is not even native to the region. It was imported. That's CA for you. Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 16:17:39 -0800 To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, but California is our nation's produce isle. Michael is so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, most of it now comes from Mexico. Again, no thanks, Adam Drive at your own risk - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" To: "Raremeteorites" Cc: "Meteorite List" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, chances are they were grown here). Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go from a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. No thanks! Adam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a meteorite hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul so
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The biggest export coming from California these days is the SMOG that overtakes neighboring states.I can usually see Needles, California and Bull Head, Arizona on a clear day but when the wind is coming from the west, this rotten egg smelling pollution invades our area. We have a joke about it. Don't hang your head out your car window when driving through this filthy pollution; It is so thick that you are most likely to chip a tooth on it. Again, no thank you, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I blame Brett Connolly for all of this. That is who should be blamed for all the illegal or stupid things. It's his fault, with no doubt. Sales of all remailed tropical plant specimens are hereby suspended until further notice. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 12/8/14, GREG LINDH via Meteorite-list wrote: > Yeah, well CA doesn't put out as much produce as it used to. Whenever I go > back to CA from AZ, in order to visit family, I drive up and down Interstate > 5. For practically the whole I-5 part of my trip I see empty, dusty fields > where there used to be beautiful orchards and lands full of all kinds of > fruits and vegetables. Now, just dusty, empty fields..oh yeah, and > hundreds of signs that say, "Congress Created Dustbowl". Yup, devastated, > dry land, all because Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and crew wanted to save a > minnow in the California Aqueduct. If I'm not mistaken, that minnow is not > even native to the region. It was imported. That's CA for you. > > > >> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 16:17:39 -0800 >> To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net >> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >> From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> >> Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower >> than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an >> almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? >> >> California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's >> drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire >> country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower >> fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so >> yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. >> Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, >> we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. >> >> And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a >> huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, >> but California is our nation's produce isle. >> >> Michael is so. Cal. >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >>> I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed >>> investment >>> properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there >>> as >>> it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go >>> bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not >>> know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put >>> into >>> the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they >>> can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went >>> airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since >>> California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. >>> >>> I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce >>> goes, >>> most of it now comes from Mexico. >>> >>> Again, no thanks, >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> Drive at your own risk >>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" >>> >>> To: "Raremeteorites" >>> Cc: "Meteorite List" >>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite >>> List >>> >>> >>>> No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce >>>> production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact >>>> protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of >>>> my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, >>>> chances are they were grown here). >>>> >>>> Michael in so. Cal. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted >>>>> tax >>>>> payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the
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Yeah, well CA doesn't put out as much produce as it used to. Whenever I go back to CA from AZ, in order to visit family, I drive up and down Interstate 5. For practically the whole I-5 part of my trip I see empty, dusty fields where there used to be beautiful orchards and lands full of all kinds of fruits and vegetables. Now, just dusty, empty fields..oh yeah, and hundreds of signs that say, "Congress Created Dustbowl". Yup, devastated, dry land, all because Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer and crew wanted to save a minnow in the California Aqueduct. If I'm not mistaken, that minnow is not even native to the region. It was imported. That's CA for you. > Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2014 16:17:39 -0800 > To: raremeteori...@centurylink.net > CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List > From: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower > than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an > almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? > > California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's > drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire > country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower > fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so > yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. > Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, > we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. > > And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a > huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, > but California is our nation's produce isle. > > Michael is so. Cal. > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list > wrote: >> I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment >> properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as >> it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go >> bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not >> know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into >> the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they >> can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went >> airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since >> California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. >> >> I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, >> most of it now comes from Mexico. >> >> Again, no thanks, >> >> Adam >> >> >> Drive at your own risk >> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" >> To: "Raremeteorites" >> Cc: "Meteorite List" >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >> >> >>> No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce >>> production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact >>> protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of >>> my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, >>> chances are they were grown here). >>> >>> Michael in so. Cal. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax >>>> payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can >>>> tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the >>>> condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go >>>> from >>>> a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road >>>> surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an >>>> inspection >>>> station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. >>>> >>>> No thanks! >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>
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Of course it is, if in order to get around local laws! Arizona has very high-priced cigarette taxes. People were buying by mail and having them sent from other states. Lots of people went to prison for smuggling. Good luck with that. Michael Farmer > On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Hi Mike, >To the best of my knowledge, shipping within the US > Is in no way a violation of law. >Thanks, though, for your concern, Mike. >Best regards, Michael > > >> On 12/8/14 5:51 AM, "Michael Farmer" wrote: >> >> That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in >> violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>> >>> NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >>> As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a >>> Greenhouse, etc. >>> Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes >>> To importing plants. >>> I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the >>> Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for >>> Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in >>> Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow >>> Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been >>> Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental >>> Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could >>> Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. >>> So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive >>> Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. >>> Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person >>> Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels >>> So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or >>> Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in >>> The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop >>> It off at a post office without waiting in line. >>> This needs to be someone in a state other than CA >>> And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). >>> If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses >>> And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. >>> Please contact me off list and change the subject box >>> So it does not read "Meteorite List" >>> Thanks for your consideration, Michael >>> >>> >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Yes, you are right. And it the States in the South-East had similar laws they would not have been invaded by kudzu. (Hey, Ruben, I agree with Michael, Hell must be a little cooler today!) Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list To: Michael Blood Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Mon, Dec 8, 2014 7:05 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List If it is a crime to get a plant imported into California, then it is a crime to circumvent the law by trying to move it through another state. Furthermore anyone would be an idiot to accept a package from overseas for someone else and resend it. Let's see, it could contain drugs, kiddie porn, or any number of other illegal things, then guess what, they have become a drug smuggler. "Hey, can you take my suitcase though customs buddy, really, there's only some flowers inside":) Not cool. Michael Farmer On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Michael Blood wrote: Hi Mike, To the best of my knowledge, shipping within the US Is in no way a violation of law. Thanks, though, for your concern, Mike. Best regards, Michael On 12/8/14 5:51 AM, "Michael Farmer" wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop It off at a post office without waiting in line. This needs to be someone in a state other than CA And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. Please contact me off list and change the subject box So it does not read "Meteorite List" Thanks for your consideration, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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If it is a crime to get a plant imported into California, then it is a crime to circumvent the law by trying to move it through another state. Furthermore anyone would be an idiot to accept a package from overseas for someone else and resend it. Let's see, it could contain drugs, kiddie porn, or any number of other illegal things, then guess what, they have become a drug smuggler. "Hey, can you take my suitcase though customs buddy, really, there's only some flowers inside":) Not cool. Michael Farmer > On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Michael Blood wrote: > > Hi Mike, >To the best of my knowledge, shipping within the US > Is in no way a violation of law. >Thanks, though, for your concern, Mike. >Best regards, Michael > > >> On 12/8/14 5:51 AM, "Michael Farmer" wrote: >> >> That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in >> violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>> >>> NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION >>> >>> Hi All, >>> Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >>> As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a >>> Greenhouse, etc. >>> Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes >>> To importing plants. >>> I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the >>> Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for >>> Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in >>> Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow >>> Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been >>> Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental >>> Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could >>> Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. >>> So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive >>> Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. >>> Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person >>> Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels >>> So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or >>> Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in >>> The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop >>> It off at a post office without waiting in line. >>> This needs to be someone in a state other than CA >>> And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). >>> If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses >>> And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. >>> Please contact me off list and change the subject box >>> So it does not read "Meteorite List" >>> Thanks for your consideration, Michael >>> >>> >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I've been trying to get hold of a small portion of Broken Hill but it can only be sold within Australia. Things were great before, but not now. Can I have a piece sent to my mum and have her package it up and send it out of Australia? Just curious. I think not. I would then cause problems for my mother. But then again with Victoria, it's not a problem, all the states in Australia have different rules. Damn, I could turn around and declare my property here in Southern California as Australian property.. an embassy so I can call diplomatic immunity. But I think the bottom line is, you're crossing the line and asking for some idiot to cause you trouble. Just my thoughts. John On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:52 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list wrote: > Hi Mike, > To the best of my knowledge, shipping within the US > Is in no way a violation of law. > Thanks, though, for your concern, Mike. > Best regards, Michael > > > On 12/8/14 5:51 AM, "Michael Farmer" wrote: > >> That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in >> violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>> >>> NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION >>> >>> Hi All, >>>Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >>>As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a >>> Greenhouse, etc. >>>Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes >>> To importing plants. >>>I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the >>> Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for >>> Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in >>> Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow >>> Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been >>> Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental >>> Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could >>> Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. >>>So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive >>> Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. >>>Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person >>> Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels >>> So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or >>> Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in >>> The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop >>> It off at a post office without waiting in line. >>>This needs to be someone in a state other than CA >>> And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). >>>If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses >>> And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. >>>Please contact me off list and change the subject box >>> So it does not read "Meteorite List" >>>Thanks for your consideration, Michael >>> >>> >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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G'Day All I think the bottom line is, it's illegal. I have watched introduced plant, animal, etc.. into Australia. Even though your request seems genuine, the law is the law. As for other comments on California, I think every state has a problem in some way or another. As for here, gas prices are high, taxes are high, freeways are congested and yes Michael F. it's a free for all on the freeways. What I'd like to see is the bullshit about dredging for gold in California shoved up some political hierarchy's arse. Dredging is good for the environment, the fish love it. You stir up all that good food. But try to tell that to the politicians. That's all I've got to say on this post. Cheers John On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 1:55 AM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list wrote: > NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION > > Hi All, > Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. > As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a > Greenhouse, etc. > Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes > To importing plants. > I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the > Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for > Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in > Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow > Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been > Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental > Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could > Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. > So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive > Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. > Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person > Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels > So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or > Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in > The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop > It off at a post office without waiting in line. > This needs to be someone in a state other than CA > And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). > If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses > And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. > Please contact me off list and change the subject box > So it does not read "Meteorite List" > Thanks for your consideration, Michael > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Mike, To the best of my knowledge, shipping within the US Is in no way a violation of law. Thanks, though, for your concern, Mike. Best regards, Michael On 12/8/14 5:51 AM, "Michael Farmer" wrote: > That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in > violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >> >> NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION >> >> Hi All, >>Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >>As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a >> Greenhouse, etc. >>Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes >> To importing plants. >>I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the >> Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for >> Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in >> Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow >> Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been >> Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental >> Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could >> Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. >>So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive >> Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. >>Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person >> Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels >> So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or >> Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in >> The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop >> It off at a post office without waiting in line. >>This needs to be someone in a state other than CA >> And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). >>If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses >> And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. >>Please contact me off list and change the subject box >> So it does not read "Meteorite List" >>Thanks for your consideration, Michael >> >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Well ... kinda true for Florida ... if you are driving a cargo van, you are REQUIRED to stop. I have a warning ticket to prove it! Chased me down, lights flashing! ... and the officer had a photograph of the sign that states such about cargo vans. Told him that I gone in and out of the state a LOT of times and had never stopped nor been stopped (in a VERY nice way!) ... his response? "It's a slow day for us!" At least he was honest and had a sense of humor ... thus a warning ticket! John -Original Message- >From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list > >Sent: Dec 8, 2014 7:39 PM >To: Michael Farmer >Cc: Meteorite List , Raremeteorites > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List > >There are agricultural inspection stations on I-10 and I-75 entering >Florida, but there are no such stations on the many alternate routes. >The inspection stations along the interstate are for commercial >traffic and private drivers are not required to stop. You can drive >unchecked across the border with unicorn horns and moonshine in the >trunk and nobody will notice or look twice. > >Never been to Arizona or California. Haven't made it that far west yet. > >-- >- >Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone >Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >- > > > >On 12/8/14, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list > wrote: >> My only problem with California drivers is that they all stay in left lane >> no matter how slow they are going. I passed a thousand or more cars in the >> right lane because it is always clear. California has every right to try to >> protect it's agriculture. >> By the way, Australia is same, checkpoints at Western Australia border and >> all produce destroyed. >> >> Michael Farmer >> >>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>> >>> Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower >>> than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an >>> almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? >>> >>> California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's >>> drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire >>> country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower >>> fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so >>> yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. >>> Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, >>> we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. >>> >>> And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a >>> huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, >>> but California is our nation's produce isle. >>> >>> Michael is so. Cal. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>>> I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed >>>> investment >>>> properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there >>>> as >>>> it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go >>>> bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not >>>> know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put >>>> into >>>> the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they >>>> can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went >>>> airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since >>>> California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. >>>> >>>> I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce >>>> goes, >>>> most of it now comes from Mexico. >>>> >>>> Again, no thanks, >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> Drive at your own risk >>>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" >>>> >>>> To: "Raremeteorites" >>>> Cc: "Meteorite List" >>>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On
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There are agricultural inspection stations on I-10 and I-75 entering Florida, but there are no such stations on the many alternate routes. The inspection stations along the interstate are for commercial traffic and private drivers are not required to stop. You can drive unchecked across the border with unicorn horns and moonshine in the trunk and nobody will notice or look twice. Never been to Arizona or California. Haven't made it that far west yet. -- - Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone - On 12/8/14, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: > My only problem with California drivers is that they all stay in left lane > no matter how slow they are going. I passed a thousand or more cars in the > right lane because it is always clear. California has every right to try to > protect it's agriculture. > By the way, Australia is same, checkpoints at Western Australia border and > all produce destroyed. > > Michael Farmer > >> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >> >> Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower >> than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an >> almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? >> >> California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's >> drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire >> country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower >> fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so >> yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. >> Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, >> we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. >> >> And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a >> huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, >> but California is our nation's produce isle. >> >> Michael is so. Cal. >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >>> I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed >>> investment >>> properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there >>> as >>> it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go >>> bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not >>> know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put >>> into >>> the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they >>> can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went >>> airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since >>> California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. >>> >>> I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce >>> goes, >>> most of it now comes from Mexico. >>> >>> Again, no thanks, >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> Drive at your own risk >>> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" >>> >>> To: "Raremeteorites" >>> Cc: "Meteorite List" >>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite >>> List >>> >>> >>>> No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce >>>> production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact >>>> protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of >>>> my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, >>>> chances are they were grown here). >>>> >>>> Michael in so. Cal. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted >>>>> tax >>>>> payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I >>>>> can >>>>> tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the >>>>> condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you >>>>> go >>>>> from >
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My only problem with California drivers is that they all stay in left lane no matter how slow they are going. I passed a thousand or more cars in the right lane because it is always clear. California has every right to try to protect it's agriculture. By the way, Australia is same, checkpoints at Western Australia border and all produce destroyed. Michael Farmer > On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:17 AM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower > than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an > almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? > > California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's > drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire > country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower > fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so > yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. > Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, > we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. > > And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a > huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, > but California is our nation's produce isle. > > Michael is so. Cal. > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list > wrote: >> I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment >> properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as >> it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go >> bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not >> know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into >> the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they >> can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went >> airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since >> California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. >> >> I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, >> most of it now comes from Mexico. >> >> Again, no thanks, >> >> Adam >> >> >> Drive at your own risk >> - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" >> To: "Raremeteorites" >> Cc: "Meteorite List" >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >> >> >>> No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce >>> production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact >>> protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of >>> my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, >>> chances are they were grown here). >>> >>> Michael in so. Cal. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax >>>> payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can >>>> tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the >>>> condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go >>>> from >>>> a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road >>>> surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an >>>> inspection >>>> station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. >>>> >>>> No thanks! >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look >>>>> for >>>>> firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a >>>>> meteorite >>>>> hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to >>>>> haul >>>>> some firewood with you, you might want to know that th
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Average gasoline prices in Arizona ($2.57/gal) are about 13% lower than California ($2.97). How does that 13% difference turn into an almost 100% (claimed) increase in your fill-up? California has more than 3 times the lane-miles of Arizona and it's drivers account for 11% of ALL of the miles driven in the entire country (more than 5 times Arizona drivers, and we have a lower fatality rate because no one from Arizona can drive worth a damn), so yes, our roads do get used and abused and could use some love. Believe it or not, road maintenance is what the fuel tax is used for, we just have a lot more roads that need maintaining. And "most" produce comes from California. And by most we're talking a huge majority. Some comes from Mexico, some from other places, too, but California is our nation's produce isle. Michael is so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: > I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment > properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as > it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go > bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not > know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into > the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they > can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went > airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since > California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. > > I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, > most of it now comes from Mexico. > > Again, no thanks, > > Adam > > > Drive at your own risk > - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" > To: "Raremeteorites" > Cc: "Meteorite List" > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List > > >> No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce >> production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact >> protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of >> my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, >> chances are they were grown here). >> >> Michael in so. Cal. >> >> On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list >> wrote: >>> >>> That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax >>> payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can >>> tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the >>> condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go >>> from >>> a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road >>> surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an >>> inspection >>> station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. >>> >>> No thanks! >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM >>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >>> >>> >>> >>>> Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look >>>> for >>>> firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a >>>> meteorite >>>> hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to >>>> haul >>>> some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will >>>> seize >>>> it at the border inspection stations. >>>> >>>> Jim Wooddell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to >>>>> you >>>>> in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>&
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Yep, California is the land of fruits and nuts ---:-P :-) :-P :-P On 12/8/2014 1:01 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list wrote: No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, chances are they were grown here). Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go from a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. No thanks! Adam - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a meteorite hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize it at the border inspection stations. Jim Wooddell On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- http://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KFLBOKEE11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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I do stay out of California unless managing one of my over-taxed investment properties.. It cost nearly twice as much to fill up my gas tank there as it does in Arizona. They were the first state to have a major city go bankrupt demonstrating their ability to manage taxpayer funds. I do not know what they do with the nations highest fuel tax. It sure isn't put into the roads. I will not drive at night in parts of California since they can't even afford to paint the lanes or put up reflectors. I once went airborne at night while pulling my enclosed car hauler trailer since California was too cheap to mark a raised railroad crossing. I have seen better roads in third-world countries. As far as produce goes, most of it now comes from Mexico. Again, no thanks, Adam Drive at your own risk - Original Message - From: "Michael Mulgrew" To: "Raremeteorites" Cc: "Meteorite List" Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, chances are they were grown here). Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go from a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. No thanks! Adam - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a meteorite hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize it at the border inspection stations. Jim Wooddell On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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The land of the fruits and nuts😃 Sent from part of the smartphone revolution > On Dec 8, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Michael Mulgrew via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce > production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact > protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of > my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, > chances are they were grown here). > > Michael in so. Cal. > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list > wrote: >> That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax >> payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can >> tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the >> condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go from >> a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road >> surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection >> station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. >> >> No thanks! >> >> Adam >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" >> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List >> >> >> >>> Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for >>> firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a >>> meteorite >>> hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul >>> some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize >>> it at the border inspection stations. >>> >>> Jim Wooddell >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: >>>> >>>> That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you >>>> in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION >>>>> >>>>> Hi All, >>>>>Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >>>>>As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a >>>>> Greenhouse, etc. >>>>>Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes >>>>> To importing plants. >>>>> >>> >>> >>> __ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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No other state even comes close to California when it comes to produce production, so it follows that no other states would have to enact protections as tough as California. Don't like it, then stay out of my state (and stop eating fruits, nuts, and vegetables altogether, chances are they were grown here). Michael in so. Cal. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Raremeteorites via Meteorite-list wrote: > That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax > payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can > tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the > condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go from > a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road > surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection > station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. > > No thanks! > > Adam > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" > > To: > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List > > > >> Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for >> firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a >> meteorite >> hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul >> some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize >> it at the border inspection stations. >> >> Jim Wooddell >> >> >> >> >> On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: >>> >>> That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you >>> in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION >>>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >>>> As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a >>>> Greenhouse, etc. >>>> Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes >>>> To importing plants. >>>> >> >> >> __ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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That's California for you. Too much governmental control and wasted tax payer money. They tax (fleece) everything and the roads are crap! I can tell when I am entering California from Arizona or Nevada just by the condition of the roads and the agricultural check points. First you go from a smooth freeway into a patched together, multi-colored, quilted road surface with no shoulders and than go through the indignity of an inspection station just have any American grown produce thrown in the trash. No thanks! Adam - Original Message - From: "Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list" To: Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Not met. Related - Friend On Meteorite List Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a meteorite hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize it at the border inspection stations. Jim Wooddell On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Keeping this meteorite related, the California bug stations even look for firewood coming in from other states. So for example you are planning a meteorite hunting trip into or through California and figure you would like to haul some firewood with you, you might want to know that they may or will seize it at the border inspection stations. Jim Wooddell On 12/8/2014 6:51 AM, Michael Farmer via Meteorite-list wrote: That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list wrote: NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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That is a crime, you really want someone to receive and ship goods to you in violation of California law? They could be prosecuted for that. Sent from my iPad > On Dec 8, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Michael Blood via Meteorite-list > wrote: > > NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION > > Hi All, >Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. >As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a > Greenhouse, etc. >Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes > To importing plants. >I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the > Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for > Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in > Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow > Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been > Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental > Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could > Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. >So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive > Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. >Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person > Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels > So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or > Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in > The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop > It off at a post office without waiting in line. >This needs to be someone in a state other than CA > And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). >If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses > And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. >Please contact me off list and change the subject box > So it does not read "Meteorite List" >Thanks for your consideration, Michael > > > __ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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NOTE: THIS IS NOT METEORITE INFORMATION Hi All, Hope you all had a wonderful Thanksgiving. As some of you know, I grow exotic plants, have a Greenhouse, etc. Unfortunately, CA is THE worst state when it comes To importing plants. I have taken to growing cuttings of Plumeria - the Tropical plant that produces the flowers used in Hawaii for Leis. There are some very exciting hybrids being grown in Thailand. However, though all of the other 49 states allow Importation, CA refuses - even though all cuttings have been Submerged in malathion for 30 minutes, have a governmental Declaration of same and no creature or fungus or the like could Ever survive even a 30 second dunk in the stuff. So, what I need is a friend on the list who is willing to receive Shipping and re-box them and send to me Registered Mail. Of course, I will pay all costs and get the person Free Priority Mail boxes and prepaid shipping labels So they do not have to stand in line at the post office or Anything like that. Just sign for the package, slip it in The Priority Mail box, print the prepaid label and drop It off at a post office without waiting in line. This needs to be someone in a state other than CA And is home to sign for the boxes when they arrive (a few times). If anyone is willing to do this for me I will cover all expenses And express my gratitude with a nice meteorite specimen. Please contact me off list and change the subject box So it does not read "Meteorite List" Thanks for your consideration, Michael __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list