Novato is approved.
Alan Rubin
Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics
University of California
3845 Slichter Hall
603 Charles Young Dr. E
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567
phone: 310-825-3202
e-mail: aeru...@ucla.edu
website: http://cosmochemists.igpp.ucla.edu/Rubin.html
Thanks for your work, Alan! Nice write up.
Jim
On 1/24/2014 9:39 AM, Alan Rubin wrote:
Novato is approved.
Alan Rubin
Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics
University of California
3845 Slichter Hall
603 Charles Young Dr. E
Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567
phone: 310-825-3202
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Hi Jason,
A few remarks on your recent email:
With regards to Novato: Without Dr. Jenniskens' efforts (published
fireball trajectory estimates and his description of what to look for),
Novato #1 would not have been recognized, and we do not know
whether or not any of the subsequent finds
Let me tell you all one thing.
50-60% of Chelyabinsk is comprised of impact-melt pieces, most of which have
little or no crust, and are hard for almost anyone to identify as meteorites.
I have a piece my guide found that even the meteorite people had trouble
identifying except for a tiny piece
:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're back to my original concern:
Why do we have to wait for just the name to be approved?
Here is the question I am posing
Utas
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:15 PM
To: Jim Wooddell ; Michael Gilmer ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hello Jim, Michael,
I'll be frank: I do not believe that the majority of meteorite hunters
and especially locals would have reached out to submit their find data
!!
Greg
-Original Message- From: Jason Utas
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:15 PM
To: Jim Wooddell ; Michael Gilmer ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hello Jim, Michael,
I'll be frank: I do not believe that the majority of meteorite hunters
and especially locals
unprofessional behavior happens on 'all'
levels of meteoritics...
Greg
-Original Message-
From: Jason Utas
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:51 PM
To: Greg Hupé ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hello Greg,
After getting turned down a few times, I started asking
, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're back to my original concern:
Why do we have to wait for just the name to be approved?
Here is the question I am
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Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track
.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
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Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back
to learn that she may never
see it again.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
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Thanks Rob
to learn that she may never see it again.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob
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Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
I seem to think this is a control issue. Someone wants total control over
the meteorite. Sad to dominate
: [meteorite-list] Novato update
I'm just saying that in the scientific world the same bullshit seems to be
happening as in the private sector. Everyone is guarding their territory and
all for self gain. I am in Russia and I've
been hunting more than a week and haven't seen scientist one out here
Jason (and list),
My comment was actually a question, and that question was with
regards to the fact than any work done on an unapproved meteorite
cannot be published by LPSC or MetSoc, so why not get it approved
first, then commence with the tests, paper writings, and publications?
What merit
.
*
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Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Jason (and list),
My
I looked for that slice on Ebay and can not find it.
Jim
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Matson, Robert D.
robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote:
Hi All,
I've been informed by one of the Novato finders that this is a
non-issue. Dr. Jenniskens has long-since pledged to donate more
than adequate
(as are other finders) to submit a type specimen to UCLA. But not
until we all have been given a proper explanation.
-- Bob V.
--- On Mon, 4/29/13, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote:
From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins arrangement, then
why can't the Committee credit UCLA for the type specimen and move
forward with approving at least the name Novato (if need be, at
least
...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list
Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins arrangement, then
why can't the Committee credit UCLA for the type specimen
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
I was informed by Laurence Garvie that they don't deal in promises. They
will approve the name only after they are notified that an actual physical
specimen of the proper mass is in the possession
In regards to what Alan stated, this makes perfect sense to me and I
agree with that of which the committee has decided. We have a
procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance with that
procedurein regards to classification and submittal to the NomCom.
No matter what the
- From: Matson, Robert D.
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To: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list
Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing
First off, I'd like to say how pleased I am to see Matija Bericic, the original
purchaser, put the meteorite back on the market. He had been in touch with me
within days and actively pursued getting a piece for research purposes. At the
time no one had any idea how many, or little, would be
PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
In regards to what Alan stated, this makes perfect sense to me and I
agree with that of which the committee has decided. We have a
procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance with that
procedurein regards to classification
...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
In regards to what Alan stated, this makes perfect sense to me and I
agree with that of which the committee has decided. We have a
procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance
Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list
Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement
: [meteorite-list] Novato update
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Cc: Alan Rubin aeru...@ucla.edu, Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Matson, Robert D.
robert.d.mat...@saic.com, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update (All recent falls unapproved,
not just Novato)
Hi List,
I wasn't pointing fingers
.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track
@meteoritecentral.com/msg108950.html
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just Novato)
To: Meteorite List meteorite
-
From: Robert Verish
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:50 PM
To: Galactic Stone Ironworks
Cc: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update (All recent falls unapproved,not
just Novato)
Very good post, Michael.
And thanks for making my point - if Novato is already
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're back to my original concern:
Why do we
Verish
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meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're
: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins arrangement, then
why can't the Committee credit UCLA for the type specimen and move
forward with approving at least the name Novato
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato update
To: Pat Brown scientificlifest...@hotmail.com, Jim Wooddell
jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net, Met List
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 8:51 PM
Hi All,
I've been informed by one of the Novato finders that this is
a non
may never see it again.
- Original Message - From: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air
that she may never see it again.
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To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air
wasn't pleased to learn that she may never see it again.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi All,
I've been informed by one of the Novato finders that this is a
non-issue. Dr. Jenniskens has long-since pledged to donate more
than adequate Novato type specimen to UCLA for it to be approved
by the Nomenclature Committee. That it hasn't happened already is
simply because Dr. Jenniskens
Hi,
I am looking for a sample of the Novato meteorite, any out there?
Thanks,
Peter Scherff
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Hi:
Me too.
John Schooler
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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:45 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite
Hi,
I am looking for a sample of the Novato meteorite, any out there?
Thanks
On Jan 23, 2013, at 8:52 AM, john schooler johns1...@schoolersinc.com wrote:
Hi:
Me too.
John Schooler
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite
Me three.
Michael
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Hi:
Me too.
John Schooler
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Subject: [meteorite-list
the need to control.
Happy Hunting,
Adam
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Cc:
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:13 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill, Beni
Yacoub
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Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill,
Beni Yacoub, Others?
Actually plenty is going on behind the scenes. The lack of interest on the list
with new falls has
the government, the smaller the citizen. I'd say that's a pretty
solid axiom.
Greg L.
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 08:09:21 -0800
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's
Mill, Beni Yacoub
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Cc:
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:13 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato, Addison, Battle Mountain, Sutter's Mill,
Beni Yacoub, Others?
We've had lots of new falls
Hi All,
Haven't seen anyone mention it, but I was impressed that Brien's slice
of
Novato sold for over $185 a gram on eBay over the weekend. Perhaps that
precedent will get more of the locals interested in searching their
yards!
--Rob
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First specimens of a new fall always fetch the highest price.
Remember the first Mifflin auctions right after the fall that Steve
Arnold listed? Similar dynamic.
If you have to be the first one on the block to own something, you'll
always pay more.
Congrats to Brien. But, unless the type turns
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Dear List,
Novato, CA Meteorite photos and post
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2012/10/california-two-meteorites-found-from.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Dear Cal G,
Any meteorite hunter worth his salt would leave his metal detector behind and
use his EYES. Please do not be a Meteorite Men Zombie! Best in your hunt.
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Subject: [meteorite-list
metal detector behind
and use his EYES. Please do not be a Meteorite Men Zombie! Best in your
hunt. Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date
his metal detector behind
and use his EYES. Please do not be a Meteorite Men Zombie! Best in your
hunt. Dirk Ross...Tokyo
--- On Fri, 10/26/12, C.G. petca...@gmail.com wrote:
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date
I found this in Novato yesterday. To my knowledge it is the second meteorite
found and the new main mass at 65.9 grams and 49 mm.
http://briencook.com/Novato_2012-10-22/
More to follow...
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Great job Brien!
Congrat's on your accomplishment.
Sincerely,
Larry Atkins
IMCA # 1941
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Sent: Tue, Oct 23, 2012 3:44 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list
Wow! For Heaven's sake! Gorgeous individual! Chondritic or achondritic???
Not sure, but I think I can see triple junctions, which would make it something
achondritic!
Looking for my socks that have been blown off!
Thank you for sharing with us!
Bernd
To: cont...@briencook.com
These brecciated stones and the fall over an urbanized area is
reminiscent of Park Forest. Of course, there are many differences as
well, but this one might produce more than one hammer stone like Park
Forest did, but maybe not nearly as many.
Congrats on the find Brien, and good luck to all the
Kind of looks like maskelynite !
Reports were that it stuck to a magnet though... Could it be?
-Paul Gessler
-Original Message-
From: Brien Cook
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 12:37 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite find
I
, October 23, 2012 12:37 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite find
I found this in Novato yesterday. To my knowledge it is the second
meteorite found and the new main mass at 65.9 grams and 49 mm.
http://briencook.com/Novato_2012-10-22/
More
Gessler
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 1:25 PM
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Kind of looks like maskelynite !
Reports were that it stuck to a magnet though... Could it be?
-Paul Gessler
-Original Message-
From: Brien Cook
Sent
Way to go Brien!
26 miles paid off!!
More to follow, does that mean you have more...?
Congratulations, Bob and Moni
From: cont...@briencook.com
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:37:37 -0700
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato meteorite find
I found
HI All, news brief!
Brien's seems to be the 1st find!!!
http://cams.seti.org/
Yeah!
Happy hunting, Moni
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HI All, news brief!
Brien's seems to be the 1st find!!!
http://cams.seti.org/
Yeah!
Happy hunting, Moni
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Moni,
Hmmm... my first impression when I saw the picture was, that's
Apparently the first meteorite has been found:
Novato (N1) , 63 g
cams.seti.org/Novato-Webber-Jenniskens.jpg
http://cams.seti.org/
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Apparently the first meteorite has been found:
Novato (N1) , 63 g
cams.seti.org/Novato-Webber-Jenniskens.jpg
http://cams.seti.org/
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IMCA #0960
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Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato (N1) found -- why the
Orioniddescription?
Hi everyone,
Anyone know why the reports
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Hi everyone,
Anyone know why the reports are quoting Dr. Jenniskens as saying that
the meteorite is from the Orionid meteor
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Anyone know
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