Hi Jason,
A few remarks on your recent email:
With regards to Novato: Without Dr. Jenniskens' efforts (published
fireball trajectory estimates and his description of what to look for),
Novato #1 would not have been recognized, and we do not know
whether or not any of the subsequent finds
Let me tell you all one thing.
50-60% of Chelyabinsk is comprised of impact-melt pieces, most of which have
little or no crust, and are hard for almost anyone to identify as meteorites.
I have a piece my guide found that even the meteorite people had trouble
identifying except for a tiny piece
:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're back to my original concern:
Why do we have to wait for just the name to be approved?
Here is the question I am posing
Utas
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:15 PM
To: Jim Wooddell ; Michael Gilmer ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hello Jim, Michael,
I'll be frank: I do not believe that the majority of meteorite hunters
and especially locals would have reached out to submit their find data
!!
Greg
-Original Message- From: Jason Utas
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 9:15 PM
To: Jim Wooddell ; Michael Gilmer ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hello Jim, Michael,
I'll be frank: I do not believe that the majority of meteorite hunters
and especially locals
unprofessional behavior happens on 'all'
levels of meteoritics...
Greg
-Original Message-
From: Jason Utas
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:51 PM
To: Greg Hupé ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hello Greg,
After getting turned down a few times, I started asking
, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're back to my original concern:
Why do we have to wait for just the name to be approved?
Here is the question I am
Message - From: Robert Verish
bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track
.
- Original Message - From: Robert Verish
bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back
to learn that she may never
see it again.
- Original Message - From: Robert Verish
bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob
to learn that she may never see it again.
- Original Message - From: Robert Verish
bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob
: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com;
Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
I seem to think this is a control issue. Someone wants total control over
the meteorite. Sad to dominate
: [meteorite-list] Novato update
I'm just saying that in the scientific world the same bullshit seems to be
happening as in the private sector. Everyone is guarding their territory and
all for self gain. I am in Russia and I've
been hunting more than a week and haven't seen scientist one out here
Jason (and list),
My comment was actually a question, and that question was with
regards to the fact than any work done on an unapproved meteorite
cannot be published by LPSC or MetSoc, so why not get it approved
first, then commence with the tests, paper writings, and publications?
What merit
.
*
- Original Message -
From: Michael Mulgrew mikest...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Jason (and list),
My
I looked for that slice on Ebay and can not find it.
Jim
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Matson, Robert D.
robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote:
Hi All,
I've been informed by one of the Novato finders that this is a
non-issue. Dr. Jenniskens has long-since pledged to donate more
than adequate
(as are other finders) to submit a type specimen to UCLA. But not
until we all have been given a proper explanation.
-- Bob V.
--- On Mon, 4/29/13, Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com wrote:
From: Matson, Robert D. robert.d.mat...@saic.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins arrangement, then
why can't the Committee credit UCLA for the type specimen and move
forward with approving at least the name Novato (if need be, at
least
...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list
Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins arrangement, then
why can't the Committee credit UCLA for the type specimen
@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
I was informed by Laurence Garvie that they don't deal in promises. They
will approve the name only after they are notified that an actual physical
specimen of the proper mass is in the possession
In regards to what Alan stated, this makes perfect sense to me and I
agree with that of which the committee has decided. We have a
procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance with that
procedurein regards to classification and submittal to the NomCom.
No matter what the
- From: Matson, Robert D.
robert.d.mat...@saic.com
To: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list
Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing
First off, I'd like to say how pleased I am to see Matija Bericic, the original
purchaser, put the meteorite back on the market. He had been in touch with me
within days and actively pursued getting a piece for research purposes. At the
time no one had any idea how many, or little, would be
PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
In regards to what Alan stated, this makes perfect sense to me and I
agree with that of which the committee has decided. We have a
procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance with that
procedurein regards to classification
...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
In regards to what Alan stated, this makes perfect sense to me and I
agree with that of which the committee has decided. We have a
procedure and it seems only one person is not in compliance
Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com; Meteorite-list
Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement
: [meteorite-list] Novato update
To: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
Cc: Alan Rubin aeru...@ucla.edu, Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Matson, Robert D.
robert.d.mat...@saic.com, Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, April 30, 2013, 12:24 PM
-
From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update (All recent falls unapproved,
not just Novato)
Hi List,
I wasn't pointing fingers
.
- Original Message -
From: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track
@meteoritecentral.com/msg108950.html
--- On Tue, 4/30/13, Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Galactic Stone Ironworks meteoritem...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update (All recent falls unapproved, not
just Novato)
To: Meteorite List meteorite
-
From: Robert Verish
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:50 PM
To: Galactic Stone Ironworks
Cc: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update (All recent falls unapproved,not
just Novato)
Very good post, Michael.
And thanks for making my point - if Novato is already
-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're back to my original concern:
Why do we
Verish
bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air and getting this thread back on track.
And now that the dust has settled, we're
: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi Bob,
Here is the question I am posing to the List, stated another way:
If everyone is in agreement with the Jenniskins arrangement, then
why can't the Committee credit UCLA for the type specimen and move
forward with approving at least the name Novato
Subject: [meteorite-list] Novato update
To: Pat Brown scientificlifest...@hotmail.com, Jim Wooddell
jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net, Met List
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Monday, April 29, 2013, 8:51 PM
Hi All,
I've been informed by one of the Novato finders that this is
a non
may never see it again.
- Original Message - From: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air
that she may never see it again.
- Original Message - From: Robert Verish bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Thanks Rob,
for clearing the air
wasn't pleased to learn that she may never see it again.
- Original Message - From: Robert Verish
bolidecha...@yahoo.com
To: Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Novato update
Hi All,
I've been informed by one of the Novato finders that this is a
non-issue. Dr. Jenniskens has long-since pledged to donate more
than adequate Novato type specimen to UCLA for it to be approved
by the Nomenclature Committee. That it hasn't happened already is
simply because Dr. Jenniskens
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