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Dealing with landowners can have
reasure hunting. There used to be
> line between the two but now it has become blurred.
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> Adam
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> - Original Message
> From: Thunder Stone
> To: almi...@localnet.com; cyna...@charter.net
> Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Mon, Fe
x27;s my wife's birthstone
>> (August) and I was able to purcase a near flawless, brilliant cut, Mexican
>> example of nearly 20 carats for less than a thousand dollars mounted in 18kt
>> gold.
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>> Steve has a tough row to hoe
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>> Regards to al
m: Thunder Stone
To: almi...@localnet.com; cyna...@charter.net
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 10:11:34 AM
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List:
I think this will put a “black eye” on meteorite hunters regard
List:
I think this will put a “black eye” on meteorite hunters regardless of the
turnout. I remember in West I talked to some landowners who let meteorite
hunters on their property, and they told me that some of the hunters had stolen
some of their finds and skipped out on paying, so they st
21, 2011 7:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with
Landowners
Why don't we discuss the real issue with this thread? Is nobody else
offended by the idea of destroying meteorites for commercial gain?
I do realize that the s
rds,
Adam
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From: "cdtuc...@cox.net"
To: Adam ; Adam Hupe
Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 7:30:25 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with
Landowners
Adam,
"One of the main problems is with trust."
Speaking of trust.
If it's done chemically then it is called dissolving, not melting.
Melting is done with heat and it would destroy the olivines. Olivine is
used to create a slag when melting iron ore and forms a liquid layer on
top of the melted iron.
/Göran
Mike Miller wrote:
Yes the entire meteorites are
Dare I say it? I think this thread should read: "Landowner's trials and
tribulations in dealing with meteorite hunters" Kinda stings a bit, but
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Yes the entire meteorites are "melted" (chemically) and all is lost
except for the olivine.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Michael Gilmer wrote:
> Are these meteorites actually being "melted down" for their peridot?
> What happens to the rest of the meteorite? I was under the assumption
> that
Are these meteorites actually being "melted down" for their peridot?
What happens to the rest of the meteorite? I was under the assumption
that the peridots in question were salvaged from badly-oxidized
specimens or were culled from peridots that fell out of the matrix. I
didn't realize whole pal
Just so we keep things straight the Admire meteorites are the ones
being melted down for their peridot and also the strewn field where
the landowner lives that was given big expectations about the returns
of the meteorites found on his land.
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:30 AM, wrote:
> Adam,
> "One
Adam,
"One of the main problems is with trust."
Speaking of trust. Is there a way to certify this material from Earth peridot?
Wait until the eBay *posers* get word of this new Space Gem.
Kaching, (sp)?
Carl
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Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax
Adam Hupe wrote:
> One of the main probl
Hi Folks,
Some very good points were raised here. And as silly as it sounds,
Phil is right on the money (no pun intended). Send a few of those
mounted "palladots" to the Kardashians and some other high-profile
socialites and you might create a market for them.
Celestial origin or not, they are
Please folks, isnt the REAL issue here simply the way some deal with
landowners? I really don't blame these landowners at all for feeling slighted.
I mean, we have to be reasonable, cautious, and even conservative, when it
comes to discussing what the landowners will receive if something good is
Hi, too busy to secrete my usual suada ;-)
So only a quick thought.
Please keep in mind,
that the Brenham prices today are a fraction of that, what Brenham had cost
in the years after its first recovery and much cheaper than that what was
asked in Nininger times,
and finally much lower than that,
CorrectAnd from what I understand, finding them of any size unfractured
suitable for jewelry is even more rare.
almi...@localnet.com wrote:
> Greetings Darren and all,
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> The link you give is for terrestrial peridot. Steve is trying to sell
> peridot from space rocks which is more u
Hi JeffList
I don't know
it is commercial gain which has been the engine behind so much of the last
decade's expanding interest in meteorites which has resulted in hundreds of
important new meteorites for science.
While I understand your sensitivity, I don't think a real issu
Why don't we discuss the real issue with this thread? Is nobody else
offended by the idea of destroying meteorites for commercial gain?
I do realize that the scientific value of Brenham pallasites is
extremely low. Many hundreds of kg are held by museums, so chances are
that the destruction b
The space gems need to be marketed to high profile fashionistas like Lady
GaGa, Kendra, Paris Hilton and the Kardashians. With Kim and Khloe flashing
those babies as they hobnob with the crowned heads of Europe, the demand
will grow like wildfire. Soon every rock star and Hollywood actor will wa
Greetings Darren and all,
The link you give is for terrestrial peridot. Steve is trying to sell
peridot from space rocks which is more unique. If you just want peridot
then there is plenty of that. If you want peridot from space rocks
there are only about 40 some falls and finds of this type o
--Original Message-
>From: Yinan Wang
>Sent: Feb 20, 2011 9:17 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with
>Landowners
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>It's all in how you market it.
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>With the big gemstones
awless, brilliant cut, Mexican example of
> nearly 20 carats for less than a thousand dollars mounted in 18kt gold.
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> Steve has a tough row to hoe
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> Regards to all,
>
> Count Deiro
> IMCA 3536 MetSoc
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> -Original Message-----
>>From: Darren Garriso
rly
20 carats for less than a thousand dollars mounted in 18kt gold.
Steve has a tough row to hoe
Regards to all,
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536 MetSoc
-Original Message-
>From: Darren Garrison
>Sent: Feb 20, 2011 7:23 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: [mete
One of the main problems is with trust. This strewn field has been available
for
over 100 years and for all practical purposes now may be closed. It only takes
one or two angry landowners to shut down the entire area to meteorite hunters.
News of fraud, lawsuits and unpaid promised large sums o
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 22:00:28 -0500, you wrote:
>It is my understanding that they are considerably more rare than diamonds yet
>are priced well below the cost of an equivalent flawless diamond.
http://www.arizona-peridot.com/Peridot_Prices.html
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You ain't lived until you've stared down the receiving end of a
shotgun held by a suspicious farmer. Once upon a time, I worked in
Ontario for the then Department of Highways. I had to "visit" farmers
all the time about government business. During my official duties I
was accosted by very
Paul, list,
I heard all about this and more details at the Gem show.
In Steve's defense. I think he is trying to find a market for these wonderful
gem stones from space.
The trouble is that he is not the only one who has these space gems.
The truth is that these stones were available for purchase
0:47:35 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] The Trials and Tribulations in Dealing with Landowners
Dealing with landowners can have their misunderstandings and
rocky moments as discussed in "Land deals, meteorites and money"
by Kim Wilhelm, KWCH 12 Eyewitness News, February 17, 2011
http://ar
Dealing with landowners can have their misunderstandings and
rocky moments as discussed in "Land deals, meteorites and money"
by Kim Wilhelm, KWCH 12 Eyewitness News, February 17, 2011
http://articles.kwch.com/2011-02-17/meteorite-hunting_28553456
Yours,
Paul H.
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