Hello the list and best wishes for 2005, about the new pallasite found in
gobia in 2004 i purchase a nicely 151 grs end-cut at john and about TKW mike
write this is the largest pallasite in the world yes ,but if this main
mass still entire and i hope of course!. ESQUEL the weight of the only
Hello List,
I´m searching for a copy of the cambridge encyclopedia of meteorites,
2002 edition.
If anybody have one that isn´t in use or theres no need for it let me
know, i would take it.
Nice greetings to all,
Carsten
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:14:13 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.Gieler) wrote:
Hello List,
Im searching for a copy of the cambridge encyclopedia of meteorites,
2002 edition.
If anybody have one that isnt in use or theres no need for it let me
know, i would take it.
If nobody here has a copy to sell,
thanks for all the good info, folks- very interesting!
i will be gradually switching over to yahoo mail (it has 100 FREE megs of storage). please cc to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "ks1u" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "harlan trammell" [EMAIL PROTECTED],meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re:
Esquel was not 1500 kilograms, Esquel was just over 700 kilograms. I know
the owner as all of you do (Bob Haag) and he knows what he bought.
The weight in the Catalog is incorrect.
Michael Farmer
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From: manuelfregez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Go to Amazon.com and you find new and used copy.
Matteo
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Cambridge encyclopedia of meteorites wanted!
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:14:13 +0100
Hello List,
I´m searching for a copy of the cambridge
good choice Carsten!
plenty copies are also available at abebooks.com:
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?imagefield.x=41an=nortontn=cambridge+encyclopediaimagefield.y=8
Cheapest issue is currently around 33 USD which is a fair price for this
fantastic and highly recommended
Jeff Kuyken who is also an ardent NWA 1933 fan, has often asked this question
before. This meteorite is so exceptional
that it would really deserve a two-digit classification.
Well that I am and always will be. I also have to agree with Zelimir on
Sahara 98175 (LL3.5) which is another impressive
Hello
If anybody out there is still interested in getting the fantastic meteorite
coin from Liberia, I can help you.
It can be seen here:
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/NWA267.html
It comes in a wood presentation case with a hand-rubbed finish and a
Certicate of Authenticity that gives the
Eric, Marvelous shock vien on the 25.85gr sah 98175! Jerry
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Hi,
I suspect that you are probably all gmailed out but... I have another 4
gmail accts to give away!
1st come c.
best!
dave
Sec.BIMS
IMCA #0092
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Why do you people keep advertising that crap.
everyone here seems to have an email account, so please, I don't want to
hear about GMAIL again.
Mike Farmer
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From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: metlist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05,
and anyway, YOU might not want to, but there are others who had asked me to advise when I had more.
Just delete Mike, just delete.
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From: Michael Farmer
Date: 01/05/05 17:03:25
To: Dave Harris; metlist
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] gmails
Why do you people
Lars note, If anybody out there is still interested in getting the
fantastic meteorite coin from Liberia, I can help you.
It can be seen here:
http://www.meteoritearticles.com/NWA267.html
It comes in a wood presentation case with a hand-rubbed finish and a
Certicate of Authenticity that gives
Paper: Mansfield News
City: Mansfield, Ohio
Date: Sunday, January 20, 1924
Page: not sure
OUT in the Arizona Desert, midway between the Grand Canyon and the Petrified
Forest, scientists are engaged in a most unheard of pursuit. They are doing
nothing less than seeking to unearth a vast treasure
Paper: The Chronicle-Telegram
City: Elyria, Ohio
Date: Friday, October 13, 2000
Page: A3
Meteorite may hold clues to origin of life
WASHINGTON (AP) - In a search for new clues about the origin of life,
researchers would-wide are analyzing bits of a bus-sized meteorite that
blazed to Earth
Mike, I have also some to give away, you as a aol user stay in the aol
worldHa, never mind.
Joachim
and anyway, YOU might not want to, but there are others who had asked
me to advise when I had more.
Just delete Mike, just delete.
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From: Michael
What the hell are you talking about? I am not an AOL user.
I am sick of reading about stupid free email accounts. This is a meteorite
list.
If someone wants GMAIL account, let them find it themselves. I have a pile
of free pet food samples to give away. Want some?
Michael Farmer
- Original
En un mensaje con fecha 01/05/2005 12:13:08 AM Mexico Standard Time,
MexicoDoug escribe:
It is much more believable to me that we start out with the elements
[reactants to form FeS] and then they react at the high temperatures in the
foundry
planetesimal core. Thus the troilite very
Paper: Arizona Republican
City: Phoenix, Arizona
Date: Tuesday, February 26, 1907
Page: 4
Progress of the Novel Operation of the Standard Iron Co. in Northern Arizona
S. J. Holsinger, superintendent of the Standard Iron company, was
interviewed yesterday concerning the operations of the
Hello to the List,
Anyone involved in french meteorites knows St Aubin
has been found after 1968.
According to M. Tomasson who studied old
meteorological documents written by a priest in St
Aubin, the meteorite of St Aubin has been seen falling
on October 20th, 1865, at 5.45am.
That's an
http://www.jsonline.com/news/state/jan05/290213.asp
Meteor burns over northeast counties
Residents, officer report hearing sonic boom
By JESSE GARZA
Milwaukee Journal Sentinal
January 4, 2005
An apparent meteor and accompanying sonic boom Tuesday evening over
northeast Wisconsin prompted
It is really beyond me why anyone would be trying to pawn off Free
Gmail accounts on behalf of Google. First of all nothing is Free. If
someone tells you otherwise they are lying. Secondly, why would anyone
waste their time trying to promote Google unless they were a Google
employee and were
Exactly, NOTHING IS FREE. Google would not offer free accounts, perhaps
these people bought one, then can offer free accounts to get other people to
sign up and reduce their costs? That is how this crap usually works.
Anyway, I made a comment, that these free email account emails are stupid,
MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
December 30, 2004 - January 5, 2005
The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:
o Layers and Exhuming Crater (Released 30 December 2004)
http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2004/12/30/
o
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:29:28 -0700, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If someone wants GMAIL account, let them find it themselves. I have a pile
of free pet food samples to give away. Want some?
Do your free pet food samples provide you with one gigabyte of free on-line
storage (suitable
so what, in return for that 1 gig, you get 1000 spams a day. Some deal.
Still, we come to the question, what does 1 gig free space have to do with
meteorites?
About the same as free pet food, nothing.
Take it to a google free gemail mailing list.
Mike Farmer
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From:
Hello Everyone,
I recently tried the used book marketplace at amazon.com to buy a couple of
used books. I picked up a copy of Burkes Cosmic Debris: Meteorites in
History - a rare book - for $44.00 and a copy of Dodd's Thunderstones and
Shooting Stars... for $2.95.
Both books were listed as used
I usually don't give a crap about these off topic arguments but this time I
thought I would familiarize myself with gmail by looking at the links John
Birdsell provided. I suggest anyone considering googles free email read
these before signing up. It is NOT like Yahoo mail or Hotmail. Check
Probably Not, but for a nominal fee you can get 2 MB of email storage
from other reliable vendors and not have Google reading through your
emails, storing the content and selling the information to third parties.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/03/google_mail_is_evil_privacy/
-John
For those of you so interested in saving a buck, here is something to
read BEFORE you sign up for Free gmail.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/03/google_mail_is_evil_privacy/
-John
Darren Garrison wrote:
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:29:28 -0700, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If
Michael wrote:
Dave, come on, are you 3 years old?
Michael, in the years I've been on this list, nobody acts more like a 3
year old then you do.
Have a wonderful day,
Charlie
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This is true, as well as the fact that anyone can get a creepy gmail account.
No invite is necessary http://www.google-watch.org/gmail.html
Bill
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From: John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It is really beyond me why anyone would be trying to
TRASH DELETE TRASH DELETE GET THE IDEA YET?
df
Dave Harris wrote:
Right,
Let me make this clear to all you out there who seem to have a problem with
gmail accounts.
yes - I know the post is not meteorite-based.
no- don't be so bloody paranoid - if you use hotmail then this is the same
only has a
Darren,
That's one stupid remark. I've been hunting and fishing in that part of
Wisconsin all my life. My grandfather built a cabin near Langlade in the 30's.
Do you live in the Midwest?
Bill
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From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
Can it Dave. As least begin the subject line with OT concerning your gmail
nonsense.
Bill
-- Original message --
From: Dave Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right,
Let me make this clear to all you out there who seem to have a problem with
gmail accounts.
yes - I
Hello to the List members.
I've a question about the classification of NWA 1942
and NWA 2620.
NWA 1942 is mostly known as a howardite but I found it
was classified as a L4 by NAU Laboratory in 2004*.
NWA 2620 is known as a diogenite but was classified by
NAU as a H4 in 2004*.
* these 2
Pierre, clearly an error on their part. I will contact Dr Bunch and have it
looked into.
Mike
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From: Pelé Pierre-Marie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] ** NWA
hi hello fried happy nyou yer
je vous remercie ecri moi
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List,
There has been talk about starting a new meteorite list. One that will
be monitored to make sure that topics stay on meteorites, that offensive
posts will be removed and the offenders given time off or removed for
good. None of the past posts by Bernd and others have been taken
seriously
NWA 2620 is not an olivine diogenite, it is an H4, Main mass Hupe
Collection. NWA 1827 was studied at the University of Washington not NAU
which was reported in error to the List previously. Scientist read this
List so be careful about what is being put out in print.
All the best,
Adam
-
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:09:58 -0700, Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Still, we come to the question, what does 1 gig free space have to do with
meteorites?
About the same as free pet food, nothing.
Take it to a google free gemail mailing list.
I would assume it is because those people
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/mars_science_lab_050105.html
Mars Science Laboratory: Next Wheels On Mars
By Leonard David
space.com
05 January 2005
While those unflappable interplanetary twins - Spirit and Opportunity -
continue to trudge across Mars, engineers and
Hello Al and List,
I'm ok for a new meteorite list without personal
attacks which are, in my opinion, bad for the
meteorite community images.
Personal attacks as its name says should stay in
private.
We need a forum with various topics :
- ADvertisement
- Finds / falls
- Classification
Hello,
that´s a good idea.
I have my own webservers and if someone takes care about reading it, I would
give the space for it.
To many disucussions about Tom, gmail and all the other stuff even if
people just give a hint or try giving a help.
Maybe we could make a second list for personal
I volunteer to run and host forums for that. If the community decides which
different forums are needed, I can easily set them up, even closed forums
for certain groups (IMCA) only.
The software is up and running at http://www.worldofmeteorites.com.
Bernhard
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From:
Al..
While I certainly agree that the flame wars etc. make this list virtually a
joke, I do not think a new list would catch on to the point where it would
replace this list. It has just been around too long. I think the answer is
to fix what we have.
This list should be a
Hello,
In fact, I don't think we should delete messages like
personal attacks, Proud Tom, out of meteorites topics
because it's the freedom of speech. We should place
all of these in a out of subject topic that everyone
can read if he wants.
Pierre
--- J. Hirschmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
I was working on such a project and decided to throw in the towel because
another site was put into to place and nobody took advantage of it. I even
developed a cyber bar where interested parties could pull up a stool and
talk about what subject interested them. A cyber bouncer was supposed to
I agree, We need rules with teeth, ie a moderated list, either this one
or a new one!!
Mike Fowler
While I certainly agree that the flame wars etc. make this list
virtually a
joke, I do not think a new list would catch on to the point where it
would
replace this list. It has just been around
Hi everyone! Some of you may already be aware of this, but the US postal
service has a recently introduced a new service by which you can mail an
item of any weight for a flat rate of $7.70 to anywhere in the US via
priority mail! For dealers and collectors alike this is fantastic news!
You
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 13:46:38 -0700, John Birdsell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone! Some of you may already be aware of this, but the US postal
service has a recently introduced a new service by which you can mail an
item of any weight for a flat rate of $7.70 to anywhere in the US via
Hi Pelé Pierre-Marie and all,
I think that is a wonderful idea and have suggested something similar
myself. A moderator who inforces list rules is a must!
--AL
Pelé Pierre-Marie wrote:
We need a forum with various topics :
- ADvertisement
- Finds / falls
- Classification question
- Astronomy
-
Dear List:
I consider myself a newbie in the meteorite world as a collector and as
a list member. I have never said an unkind word to anyone on or off list,
and I use the delete key with obscene regularity.
I don't really have a problem with all the negativity; it hasn't quelled
my
While I certainly agree that the flame wars etc. make this list virtually
a joke, I do not think a new list would catch on to the point where it
replace this list. It has just been around too long. I think the answer
is to fix what we have.
I have been around here since the very
My experience with the *real* big ones in whatever (acting, creativity,
music) due to my RL job is that their fights and flaming occur just on a
higher level, not visible for the public. All in all, they are the same
bitching egos like evrybody else :-)
Just my 2c and nothing to be taken personal
My experience with the *real* big ones in whatever (acting, creativity,
music) due to my RL job is that their fights and flaming occur just on a
higher level, not visible for the public. All in all, they are the same
bitching egos like evrybody else :-)
You are probably right, Bernhard, but
Just wondering if it passed through the hands of anyone here, and if any of it
will become available
for private collectors?
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I meant 773, the new lunar, sorry.
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:24:54 -0500, Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just wondering if it passed through the hands of anyone here, and if any of it
will become available
for private collectors?
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Jim Strope couldn't have said it any better. I spend a great deal of time
and effort on post daily pictures. More than some may think and all I see in
between is total BS, emails that should be sent in private off the list.
It's really not worth my time and effort to try to do something
Darren,
Contact Marvin Killgore:
http://www.meteorite-lab.com/
John Kashuba
Ontario, California
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From: Darren Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Provenance of NWA
Thats just what we need. A list that nurtures newbies in order to promote the
market. A place that they can be indoctrinated without diverse opinion. What a
steaming pile that would be. Moderated to the point of absolute boredom. Take
note of those that are jumping on this bandwagon!
Bill
I have wondered about that and I simply concluded that it's good common sense
to stay out of the frey to protect your investments.
Bill
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From: Alexander Seidel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
While I certainly agree that the flame wars etc. make this
- Original Message -
From: Michael Cottingham
To: Michael Cottingham
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:54 PM
Subject: AUCTIONS ENDING TODAY Plus A Few Meteorite Books 4 Sale!
Hello,
I have not done this for awhile.. An Auction Heads Up!
Auctions Ending Today!
Go To:
Adam, I suggest you contact Ted Bunch, he assigned me NWA 2620 for my
olivine diogenite.
I am leaving in 40 hours so I have no time to do it.
Mike
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From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:55 PM
I did check it out.
Adam
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From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification ? **
Adam, I
Darren, are you joking? There was no middle finger, you are blowing this so
far out of proportion it isn't even funny.
Give it up already.
Anyone who wants a friggin free email account can get one. This is the most
ludicrous thread I have seen on so many years on this list.
Hey friends, I have a
And?
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From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ** NWA 1942 and NWA 2620 classification ? **
I did check it out.
Adam
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From: Michael
Seems to me since you are so short on time, one email to Ted is more
advantageous than playing email ping pong with Adam. Why not let the
Scientist clear it up?
Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV 26038
http://www.catchafallingstar.com
- Original Message -
From: Michael Farmer
Adam, then explaine the email below, clearly a mistake has been made, have
you spoken to Ted?
I am doing this publicly since the question was raied here and I have sold
many pieces of the NWA 2620 Olivine Diogenite.
Michael Farmer
I have called Ted today, with no answer.
Email dated 12 December
Here is a link, scroll down to NWA 2620:
http://www4.nau.edu/meteorite/Meteorite/H-Chond.html
Kind regards,
Adam
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From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED];
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 2:42 PM
Adam, that explains nothing other than the simple fact the it seems that a
scientist has assigned the same number to two different meteorites.
Mike Farmer
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From: Adam Hupe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:39
Hi All,
Last year there was a lot of talk about people leaving the list
due to disgust, boredom, etc. (Imagine if Meteorite Magazine
was nothing but advertisements and nasty Letters to the Editor
instead of the fine publication that it is?) This list is only
as good as the time, effort, content
David Weir References NWA 2620 in the following webpage on NWA 2115:
http://www.geocities.com/~dweir/protected_NWA2115.HTM
Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV 26038
http://www.catchafallingstar.com
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From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Adam Hupe [EMAIL
This is my last comment for now on the subject. NWA 2620 will be published
in the very next bulletin as an H4, Main Mass Hupe Collection. No ifs, ands
or buts about it. Why is so hard to understand?
All the best,
Adam
- Original Message -
From: Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Adam, I guess, the thing that is hard to understand is that NWA 2620 will be
published in the next bulletin is an Olivine Diogenite.
Now are you confused yet?
You seem so sure of it, yet I sent you proof that the same scientist gave
that name to my meteorite, seems to have geven you the same
[Resending reply -- first attempt did not post. --Rob]
Hi Adam, Mike and List,
NWA 2620 will be published in the very next bulletin as an H4,
Main Mass Hupe Collection. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Why
is so hard to understand?
Simple repetition of your position doesn't do anything to
Hi All,
Hi Robert and List,
This very strategy was suggested here
last year -- I forget by whom (Bernd?).
I don't know if that was me but it does not quite sound like me.
Five additional finds were made by five separate people over the
next 5 years, each weighing less than 10 grams
Rob and everyone, that looks like the problem, but it isnt. I have many
meteorites, in the 20## sequence, 2626 is a new Shergottite!
So that is not the error.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message -
From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ''Adam Hupe ' '
[EMAIL
Hi Jim and all,
I certainly agree with what you have to say and wish that the rules
would be honored for the most part (I doubt there will ever be a perfect
forum). In reality when list members have approached Art on this, it
seems to fall on deaf ears. Art could certainly appoint someone to
John, Jim and everyone else, I have nothing but respect and admiration for
everyone on here, but;
Personally, I do not have one problem with the list as it is, I think it is
great! It seems like the problem is with the people who refuse to use the
delete key, it does not bite! I opened my email
I just spoke with Dr Bunch, and the olivine diogenite is actually NWA 2029,
so Adam is correct, however, Adam knew that because Ted just told me that He
had already corrected that with Adam, not me.
So Adam could have saved alot of problems by simply stating this.
Thanks for not taking one
I just spoke with Dr Bunch, and the olivine diogenite is actually
NWA 2029...
Just for confirmation -- is that 2029 or 2629? (2029 seems so
different from all the other numbers in Ted's e-mail.) --Rob
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Jim I totally agree with your commentsfix what we have NOW. If we went
to a new list w/o enforcement of the rules it would end up migrating to what
we have here far too frequently.
Happy New Year and all the best,
Greg Redfern
International Meteorite Collectors Association #5781
Rob, thanks, yes, it is 2629.
My bad this time.
Mike
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From: Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Michael Farmer ' [EMAIL PROTECTED];
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Adam Hupe '
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 6:27 PM
Matson, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Some of the most interesting stories are the ones
that are rarely told here -- meteorite hunting
stories. Instead, these end to be revealed slowly by
word of mouth due to the need for secrecy or
confidentiality/proprietary concerns. (You never saw
Franconia
Hi Bob and List,
I understand the point you were trying to make, Rob,
but you chose a bad example when you picked Franconia.
Actually, Franconia was first mentioned (by me) at
Tucson two years ago, not last year.
I stand corrected -- since last year was my first year at
the Tucson show, I
A list with big teeth and stodgy moderators may find itself with nothing to
chew.
Bill
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From: AL Mitterling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Jim and all,
I certainly agree with what you have to say and wish that the rules
would be honored for
For any that are interested, there is a new meteorite list for hunters that
was just started. Go to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dan Wray
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In a message dated 1/5/2005 9:32:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
One thing's for sure -- if we do nothing, this list will die.
The passive approach isn't going to fix it. My intent was
to try to breathe some life back into the list and perhaps
inspire others to
Dear kind, gentle, patient, and knowledgeable Meteorite Folks,
I'm hearing:
NEW LIST! NEW LIST! MODERATED LIST! MODERATED LIST!
Well, folks, before we get a lynch mob all worked up here, let's rake
this mess over
the coals a few times and see how it smells then...
First (and with great
Hello to the List.
I would like to know if the Franconia strewnfield is
in a public zone or a private property. Do you think
there's much more to find ?
Thanks in advance,
Pierre-Marie Pele
www.meteor-center.com
Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail : 250 Mo
Pierre, it is mixed government and private land. There is much left to find.
I know of at least 400 kilograms of it, so I am shocked that people would be
suckered into paying multi dollars per gram. It is a nice meteorite, but the
price is ready to collapse.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message
Anita Anne,
This is all so obvious, I am of the opinion that those who like
to complain about the irrelevant posts are:
1) sending irrelevant posts
2) enjoy (in some strange way) having something to complain
about (otherwise they would just quietly leave).
Here's to those who
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