Why should that matter? They're worth $10/g.
...Right?
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Steve do you realize some of us are still out in the field?
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 8:29 PM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote:
Hello List,
I have just returned
I'm feeling these are NWAs and notshingle springs california
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Hello Listers,
I see Steve’s point of what he’s doing by setting a base price for the recent
meteorite fall in WI to pay the land owners %50 in cash from sales on eBay.
But, with any new fall the first year the price tends to be high because it’s a
new fall and there after the price drops to
Uh, excuse me, Wait a minute, ok. Something doesn't sound right here at
all. I hate to be the buttinsky here and call anyone out, but as I
understood it all the collectors/dealer/.amateurs/locals HAD to PAY the
Farmers and Landowners Before They Left The Property with What They Found
and
I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their
meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever
and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by
silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone,
I see Steve’s point of what he’s doing by setting a base price for the recent
meteorite fall in WI to pay the land owners %50 in cash from sales on eBay.
But, with any new fall the first year the price tends to be high because it’s
a new fall and there after the price drops to about $10 a gram
Hi
Where should I start..
I guess ill start off where it was last left off at
Quote un quote
But don't trust me - I've only been here watching the market since 1998.
Yes this true, and don't trust me either cause I just been watching the market
since 2010.
If I was in this situation
If I was in this situation that the meteorite collectors are in the field I
would explain to the farms the case with what could happen with falls. What I
would do if I was there I would split the finds 50/50 and give them the
resources of how they could sell the meteorites or purchase the
Hello All,
While perusing the sites pertaining to the fall, I've come across a
number of comments by Michael Farmer.
Here's a prime example (one of many):
http://www.necn.com/04/23/10/Livingston-catches-hold-of-meteorite-fev/landing.html?blockID=221795feedID=4213
Now, I don't know who is
Hi all,
I had this idea a while ago and I figured with the latest WI fall and some
spare time today, I would finally get it done.
Hope you like it:
http://www.meteorites.com.au/films/The_Wonder_Of_Meteorites.html
Cheers,
Jeff
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What a pity, Livingston was finally a fall and a thread without anger and
brawl.
Bullcrap...angelkiss - uuuh I sold my last Park Forest fullslice at 15$..
With new falls it is naturally always the same pattern and nothing to argue
about.
In the beginning it is expensive.
Then it depends simply
List,
Jason said :
Bullcrap. I'd like to see you point out a single place online or
otherwise where you can buy Ash Creek, Park Forest, or Whetstone
Mountains for anything shy of $20/g. Don't delude yourself here; as a
collector, I would *love* to see prices down there, but it's simply
not
Shawn said :
Good example is the NWA 869 L4-6 meteorite. At the current rate with this
ordinary chondrite, the going rate is $1 a gram or less depend on the
samples, if it has fusion crust, or if it’s sold as a Lot or not.
Wow, did meteorites go haywire while I was sleeping? NWA 869 going
- But don't trust me - I've only been here watching the market since 1998.
What were you in 1998? Ten? Twelve years old at the most? LOL ;)
On 4/24/10, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote:
What a pity, Livingston was finally a fall and a thread without anger and
brawl.
Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on
this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the
standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out
over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the
meteorite men along
Your point?
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Hello List,
I have a point of order in this discussion.
It does not matter what price Steve's pieces fetch. Steve was famous before
being a T.V. Show star. With his current prominence, he will always bring in
more per gram. Especially if HE actually found it. Meteorite Men was granted a
Hi all,
Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have
started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a
dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale.
The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth
x amount of
(sometimes 15 if you're lucky)
Below $15/g? If so, I'd like to buy whatever you didn't.
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Galactic Stone Ironworks
meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote:
List,
Jason said :
Bullcrap. I'd like to see you point out a single place online or
otherwise where you can buy
Oh no.
We went to the moon. You will have to get over that dead issue. There is too
much proof. There are old guys in Australia that pointed the dish to the moon
to capture the first words ever spoken that laugh at people that believe it was
a hoax.
You don't understand the meaning of my
Thanks for the alert Jason very well spoken.
Elton
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Jason Utas meteorite...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All,
While perusing the sites pertaining to the fall, I've come across a
number of comments by Michael Farmer.
Here's a prime example (one of many):
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 05:39:23 -0700, you wrote:
Now, I don't know who is actually doing this, but it seems pretty
likely that they're a list-member.
Haven't heard from him in a while, but my guess is that the individual's name
rhymes with Schmandal Peggery.
I've been trading online since 1999 (rockhounding since the 70's) and
have been in meteorites for almost 4 (the List for about 2.5 or 3). I
don't claim to be an expert - just a clown in the peanut gallery.
Of course, I'm sure you'll dissect my reply into syllables and refute
each one. ;)
On
Too bad this is fake, because Bat Yam would make a great name for a meteorite.
And a comic book character. And Bat Yam and the Sappers would make a great band
name...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1164994.html
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3880008,00.html
Ha! The wet seashells are on fire. I'm rollin'.
It has a better chance of being something Mike Massimino lost on a STS mission.
Warren Sansoucie
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To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 11:28:21
Brian Cox wrote:
...I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I
request that everyone else be respectful of one another.
One wonders how the same person could justify this post of in light of
the above admonition for the list to be respectful?
She sounds like an old whore
Please Warren, your canned responses were expected
I mean no discredit to the dedicated scientists and professionals at NASA and
the military that worked on the project, and those that soldier on today, and
I answered you in jest off list - no need to take this public, unless you want
to.
With all due respect, I think I will choose to take my own advice to someone
earlier this week and just smile and nod.
Warren Sansoucie
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:50:48 -0700
From: energylightandl...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list]
This nutjob has no place on a list whose members are dedicated to the
science of meteoritics (or dedicated to any science). He's an embarrassment.
Chris
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:59:45 -0600, you wrote:
This nutjob has no place on a list whose members are dedicated to the
science of meteoritics (or dedicated to any science). He's an embarrassment.
I agree. I'm adding a name to my killfile.
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Hello Jessica,
With all due respect, you have not done your homework. The questions
which you pose have been discredited numerous times. And some are
just plain silly. For example, how can you claim that there was no
direct TV feed?? I don't know how old you are, but I sat in front of
Ruben and list.
If someone is promising 50% of the value, then they should honor their word.
Not tell the land owners they are only worth $4/g then give them $2/g
pretending that is 50% of the real value.
If a hunter only wants to max give up $2/g then they should be honest and say
up
As I am smiling and nodding, I would like to add that claiming we did not go to
the moon is also claiming that we brought back no lunar samples. If we brought
back no lunar samples, how did we compare the lunar meteorites? Perhaps you
believe green cheese is still the standard belief there
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:22:08 -0700, you wrote:
I could go on, but I don't want to waste any more time on a nut job
like you.
Yeah, I was about to say you're wasting your time. If you google her mailing
address, you'll find almost nothing, but you will find that she sells
metaphysical
Steve and list,
I meant no disrespect to you or Mike as I consider you both friends.
My only point was that Mike was correct in assuming that I nor anyone
else would sell publicly - since that was what we tried to do in West.
So you and everyone else can certainly do anything you want with your
Hi to all. Hope everyone is doing well.
I am looking for assorted meteorite related video to put onto a new site I
started, www.meteoritetv.com
If anyone has any meteorite related video or shows they want to share, send a
digital copy (or link) my way and I will put it on the site.
This is
Dangerous ground!
I am not saying I think one way or the other on this subject of the Moon
Landing but when you seek to stop, isolate, or ostracize any one for asking
questions it quits being Science and becomes religion.
Why go right to attacking this person? Defending your position
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:54:51 EDT, you wrote:
These posts have had a disturbing smugness to them.
There are degrees of anti-scientific nutbaggery so insultingly stupid that both
the views and the view-holders deserve no respect. Especially concidering that
at least one (seldom posting but
Hello Tom,
I don't believe that my reply to Jessica (at least to begin with) was
in any way an attack. I addressed several of her questions with
facts. After stating that I take nobody at their word, and I do
research the information she provided absolutely no data and no facts
to
--- On Sat, 4/24/10, power ofunity energylightandl...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am a professional photographer, ...
Where are the stars?
I usually don't waste one minute of my time on this mindless drivel, because
those who are convinced that all the evidence is wrong or faked, but on this
one
You make my point for me! When should intolerance be tolerated? Easy!,
When you question my sacred beliefs.
Tom
In a message dated 4/24/2010 11:16:08 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
cyna...@charter.net writes:
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:54:51 EDT, you wrote:
These posts have had a disturbing
Would you also respect the right of somebody to consume forum bandwidth to
argue that the Earth is flat? Seriously, this Moon hoax nonsense is of the
same caliber. It isn't like they bring up any new arguments. Always the same
old stuff- no stars, funny shadows, no blast pits- stuff that has
Hi Melanie.
The short answer to your first question is yes, it could be done and with
today's technology. The manner it could be done would be the same as the
deflection techniques that have been suggested for NEOs found to be on an
impacting trajectory. Unfortunately, while an NEO only needs
Why was there no direct Tv Feed -
This one I can speak to. Ever since the movie The Dish, I've 'looked into'
the Parkes Radio Telescope. The story as depicted in the movie is relatively
correct, aside from a bit of dramatic license. Parkes was supposed to be a
backup for the main video
While the Mythbusters on Discovery Channel sometimes get things wrong because
of their poor methodology, they did do a very good job of explaining and
demonstrating why the majority of the hoaxers claims are incorrect.
Some if not all of the Moon Hoax episode is available on Youtube. Here's
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:45:42 +, you wrote:
Mythbusters did a fairly comprehensive debunking
Here's Penn and the other guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWZ_LCnkE7A
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Jeff,
Excellent photos, music and incredibly well timed!!!
A very professional work!
Thanks for sharing,
Ken
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote:
Hi all,
I had this idea a while ago and I figured with the latest WI fall and some
spare time today, I
Jeff,
An absolutlely beautiful presentation!
thanx,
Steve
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I agree. Well done.
Warren Sansoucie
Apr 2010 14:03:13 -0400
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CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
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Jeff,
Excellent photos, music and incredibly well timed!!!
A very
Didn't the Japanese Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) known as Selene,
(Kaguya) deal a death blow to the moon denialists with their photos of the
landers and footprint trails?
Btw, Apollo lunar samples prove nothing, they could have been bought from
the Russians, (remember the unmanned
Jeff,
Absolutely perfect. Beautiful. Simple, but heavy
Count Deiro
IMCA 3536
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Hi all,
I
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:27:29 -0400, you wrote:
Didn't the Japanese Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO)
Yes LRO, no Japanese.
http://lunar.gsfc.nasa.gov/newsroom.html
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LRO is a US mission
Here is the page of the images of the Apollo LM descent stages on the moon.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html
The only one not presented here is Apollo 12
Note on the Apollo 14 images, that the descent stage, scientific instruments
Phil / List,
Yes, the Japanese did take several photos of landing sites. No, this did not
deal a death blow for conspiracy theorists. They are arguing a belief they have
accepted as fact. For them, it is akin to arguing religion.
You could have their own siblings doing back flips on the
Disguised as a point of view about the Apollo
program, lunar landings, NASA, the astronauts,
and historical events, the arguments presented
are, at the heart of them, defamatory slanders
directed at dozens, hundreds, thousands of
individuals (depending on the full width of the
conspiratoral
Hi Ruben,
I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed
then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry.
I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though.
I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really
List,
I stand partly corrected. LRO did take many photos. When speaking of the
Japanese accomplishments I was referring to the SELENE lunar orbiter.
The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) launched their SELENE lunar
orbiter on September 14, 2007 (JST) from Tanegashima Space Center.
Last year, I astral projected to the Moon. I walked on the Apollo
landing sites and examined the artifacts left behind. I can state
with surety that the landings were not faked. ;)
On 4/24/10, Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com wrote:
LRO is a US mission
Here is the page of the images of
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Buzz Aldrin punching someone for bringing up the hoax is
all the proof I need. A man with his composure losing his
temper shows the insult he felt when confronted with such
nonsense.
A little back story on this episode
Maybe we could send Ed Mitchell back to the moon to verify the evidence. We
could send along Lisa Nowak (along with plenty of diapers) to make sure Ed
doesn't do anything squirrelly.
Phil (Oswald didn't do it) Whitmer
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LOL you dropped the Ed Mitchell bomb. Ed Mitchell, with all respects paid, is a
conspiracy theorist. His accounts are no more proof backed than the hoax
theorists.
However if he is right then I would believe that we didn't go to the
moon.wait... if his conspiracy is right then we DID go
Sometimes in life an empty Coke bottle that conks you on your head was
just some ass that threw it out of a plane and not the gods being angry.
That was a good movie...The God's Must Be Cracy? or something like that.
GeoZay
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Perfect!! Love the music, too. Thanks, Jeff!
Carl2
http://www.meteorites.com.au/films/The_Wonder_Of_Meteorites.html
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Excellent Jeff, now that's what the list should be about and not wasting room
in my in box with messages replying to fanatics who would more likely go away
if ignored.
Graham, UK
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Ladies and Gents,
Up for your consideration is a used Fisher Gold Bug II with two coils
(10 and 14, both with coil covers) and a Fisher carry bag, in very
good working condition.
Price: $550 (worldwide shipping included)
Do not hesitate to let me know if you have any questions.
Thank
Very cool video!!
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:50 PM, ensorama...@ntlworld.com wrote:
Excellent Jeff, now that's what the list should be about and not wasting room
in my in box with messages replying to fanatics who would more likely go away
if ignored.
Graham, UK
-Original
Again, your point? You literally had nothing to disagree with from
what I'd said, but claimed to have found Ash Creek for less than $20/g
- when I did note that it occasionally went as low as $15/g (likely a
moot point in this case since this fall looks to be much harder to
find pieces of).
I
Oh, Elton - it sounds like you have a beef with Brian, and he's really
a good guy who has no problem with Mike.
I agree - the whore comment was a bit off-color, but I don't see your
justification for ragging on a list-member for making fun of yet
another person trying to cash in on...what looks
Hello All,
I have 10 very nice and rare meteorites ending in less than one day:
http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg=
- very rare Kandahar (Afghanistan) 0.29 g!
- Siena 80 mg from the NHM London w. Rob Elliott CoA
- Pantar
- Malotas
- Almahata Sitta
- Park Forest
- Vigarano
Elton,
Have you lost your mind? I have no idea why you are taking a stab at me
other than you are upset about me making a bad off-color joke about the lady
from Winnemucca. I didn't signal out the whole state of Nevada nor all
women, as you know and me thinks that for some strange reason this
Out of curiosity, does anybody know about what year this meteorite list
began?
GeoZay
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Hello listees,
While reviewing the previous posts and a certain man who was condemning me,
I had a little time to reflect just now before calling Michael Farmer.
Michael had no idea why a certain post member was taking a stab at me and he
said to not let it bother me. We've known each other
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/baxter_meteorite.html
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Thanks Count and to everyone who commented both on and off list.
I think I have responded to everyone who wanted to use it as a teaching aid
but if there is anyone else who would like to use it for that, then please
feel free. Actually half the reason I decided to do it now was because of
the
1997 comes to mind.
I think around 1996 or 1997 was when I joined, but at the time I thought
it was already well established by then.
GeoZay
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I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks.
Guido
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Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM
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meteoritefin...@gmail.com
Cc: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Brian Cox
Steve's first auction just closed at around $538.00 per gram. 0.117 sample
closed at $63.00
I wonder if it comes with a free hunting demo from Jeff and a fruit basket at
Christmas time?
:)
Warren Sansoucie
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:28:28 -0400
Dear George, This is the earliest archive that I have record of:
http://www7.pair.com/arthur/meteor/archive/archive1/Feb97/maillist.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Hi all,
I only became aware of Bob King's blog this morning during off-list
correspondence. I had never seen it before but I'm glad I have now. It's
well worth taking a look. There are some great recent pics of the hunt in WI
along with dialogue. Great stuff.
Whats the matter with those guys?...anybody living in the Holy Land should
recognize fire and brimstone. The reason that schmegala is talking so loud is
he scared.
Guido
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I have seen it many times - it's great! I spent a few minutes
yesterday trying to figure out how he got that incredible shot of
himself hunting a cornfield. Very cool!
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au wrote:
Hi all,
I only became aware of Bob King's blog
April 30th 2004 according to how far back the archives go to.
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From:
Hello All! Haven't really been reading this debate about
the Apollo missions but take it that there is some doubt
about the actuality of a landing. I recently purchased
Direct From The Moon which is actual footage from the
Japanese lunar orbiter Kaguya. The video is High Def and
they used duel
Hi George;
The mailing list was launched in December 1996. Seems like a long,
long time ago!
Best Regards, Art
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Melanie Matthews
miss_meteor...@yahoo.ca wrote:
April 30th 2004 according to how far back the archives go to.
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Hi:
Has anyone got any volcanic ash or ejecta from the Iceland volcano
that they could send me? I would like to compare it to some Mt. St.
Helen's ash that I have.
Thanks:
Ed Majden
1491 Burgess Rd.
Courtenay, B.C. Canada.
V9N 5R8
epmaj...@shaw.ca
Has anyone got any volcanic ash or ejecta from the Iceland volcano
that they could send me? I would like to compare it to some Mt. St.
Helen's ash that I have.
While we are on the Off Topic...anyone on the list desire to have some ash
from Mt. St. Helen's gathered about 3 or 4 days
Well done, Jeff! Everything fits together, even the wonderful music..
Thanks a lot mate!
Cheers
Werner Schroer
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