Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread MexicoDoug
explosive Definitely caution when playing around with corrosives is of the first order...that said, sure, ethanol is a racing car engine fuel and under the right conditions can combust; But people drink it even straight... Many things we do have risks associated with them some very serious

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread MexicoDoug
Besides water, I'm suspecting Nitric + acetone (Nitkeytone ?) and any number of other solvents would work OK, don'rt bother with this one! I just did; It actually etches, but leaves a yucky finish. The fumes are no worse than other nitals, though I wouldn't want to breath much of them until

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-01-27 Thread valparint
Richland Springs http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Jim Wooddell
I believe there was an article by Hartman a few years back about the use of ferric chloride. The conclusion was that it gave a better etch??? I think it was in Meteorite-Times. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Campo Alert, Tucson Gem Show

2012-01-27 Thread Tim Heitz
I haven't received any calls yet, however I will know what to do this time:) All the best, Tim Heitz - Original Message - From: Meteorite Men meteorite...@gmail.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:00 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Stolen

[meteorite-list] New 68 gram Mars Meteorite, Tissint. On display at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM.

2012-01-27 Thread ROCKS FROM SPACE
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[meteorite-list] Tucson show

2012-01-27 Thread Said Haddany
 Hi everybody, we are already here in tucson,the weather is really wondeful,warm and sunny.. we almost setted up in the same room,160 at Ramada Hotel, dont hestitate to stop by our room and welcome to see what we have.. our phone number is 520 981 6976  best regards Said Haddany I.M.C.A # 8108

Re: [meteorite-list] New 68 gram Mars Meteorite, Tissint. On display at the University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM.

2012-01-27 Thread Darryl Pitt
Hi, Wow. Really gorgeous. On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:38 AM, ROCKS FROM SPACE wrote: http://www.rocksfromspace.org/tissint-unm.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] Tissint and a Non-related Time Capsule

2012-01-27 Thread Gary K. Foote
Every photo of Tissint I've seen in photos it is unique in so many ways. Freshness, flowlines, orientations, depply sculpted backsides... Other than its freshness is there a particular reason for its unique look? This is just one of many and they are all spectacular in so many ways.

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Jim, My respects to all the ferric chloride lovers out there and especially Ron Hartman, bless him. A blanket statement of a better etch is pretty meaningless. I recall asking Arcady who had all the Seymchan several years back why all of his specimens were etched so deeply that they

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Doug, No argument there! Safety is key as you pointed out. My suggestion, over time, is to try them all in a safe environment. Maaayyybe is specific applications, one my produce the desired result better over the other. Jim Jim Wooddell http://k7wfr.us - Original Message -

[meteorite-list] LIVE Webcast - NOW

2012-01-27 Thread Ruben Garcia
Hi all, I'm finally in my room (#234 Hotel Tucson) and open for business! I'm going to try to turn the camera on and direct it outside towards the court yard or down the walk way. If the internet works well and there are not too many people on line at the same time we should get a fairly nice

Re: [meteorite-list] Stolen Campo Alert, Tucson Gem Show

2012-01-27 Thread Craig Moody
Dear Geoff Holy crap! That really sucks!!! (as I state the obvious) If you have pics of those taken, please post them asap, so we can all help in locating them ASAP. One thing about meteorites, is that they are like snow-flakes, where no two are the same, and can be easilly identified. I

[meteorite-list] Dawn Journal - January 27, 2012

2012-01-27 Thread Ron Baalke
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_01_27_12.asp Dawn Journal Dr. Marc Rayman January 27, 2012 Dear Asdawnished Readers, Dawn is scrutinizing Vesta from its low-altitude mapping orbit (LAMO), circling the rocky world five and a half times a day. The spacecraft is healthy and continuing

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: January 16-27, 2012

2012-01-27 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES January 16-27, 2012 o Lava (16 January 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5804 o Channel (17 January 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5805 o Windstreaks (18 January 2012) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5806 o Dark Slope Streaks (19 January 2012)

[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Opportunity Update: January 18-24, 2012

2012-01-27 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Science Investigations Continue as Solar Energy Levels Drop - sols 2839-2845, January 18-24, 2012: Opportunity is positioned on the north end of Cape York on the rim of Endeavour Crater with an approximate

[meteorite-list] here comes Eros 2012 27/31Jan2012

2012-01-27 Thread drtanuki
Dear list, http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/2012/01/here-comes-asteroid-433-eros-passing.html Dirk Ross...Tokyo __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Grossman
Hi, Couple of thoughts. Mark's Law: If you're standing in the exact same spot as someone else when a mixture of nitric acid and ethanol explodes, the sensitivities of the two individuals to harm are always the same. :-) Both nickel chloride and nickel nitrate are soluble nickel compounds,

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Mark, Would appreciate a reference for the nickel chloride being 15 times more carcinogenic than soluble nickel nitrate. That's not what I wrote although it could be true I have no such reference to support the above. What I did write was: Only Nickel chloride (a result of ferric

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Grossman
Hi Doug, Thanks for the comments. I'm a Certified Industrial Hygienist and a Certified Safety Professional and have been in the chemical health and safety field for more years than I care to admit. Before that, I used to work as an analytical chemist. There is a lot of information you have

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Mark and Doug and all! Another good topic...that goes along with etching meteorites is the polishing compounds used prior to etching. For example, a 1 micron polishing compound or mixture has it's own set of safety issues. The concern is absorption through the skin, etc! Most probably do

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 103, Issue 36

2012-01-27 Thread Jonathan Abel
List... All this talk about the moon -- I woke up just in time to see the moon do something I'd never seen for just a few minutes. Both my stills and video are lit by moonlight and mirrored reflection off the elevated surfaces of the waves...

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Richard Montgomery
Jim...nice post. Can you elaborate on the compound? - Original Message - From: Jim Wooddell nf11...@npgcable.com To: Mark Grossman mar...@westnet.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Steve Dunklee
hi! cheers! Steve Dunklee http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925886 --- On Sat, 1/28/12, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com wrote: From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution To: mar...@westnet.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date:

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Steve Dunklee
http://multietch.com/ cheers --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution To: mar...@westnet.com, Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com Date:

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Mark Wow, with the due respect, all that experience under your belt, I really am surprised you confused the difference between threshold toxicity level and toxic activity! But it illustrates the dangers of misinterpretion that are part of life in these sorts of postins when nobody gets

[meteorite-list] (no subject)

2012-01-27 Thread Gary K. Foote
Thought you all might be interested in the 1957 Encyclopedia Britannica entry for 'Meteorites'. Click the pictures on the webpage for full size readable photos of the EB pages and closeups of most of the plates. My battery ran out before I got them all.

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Grossman
Hi Doug, I didn't confuse anything - I'll leave that job up to you - and I'll stand by what I stated before. Best, Mark - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To: mar...@westnet.com; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:18 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution msds ferric chloride

2012-01-27 Thread Steve Dunklee
http://www.sciencelab.com/msds.php?msdsId=9925886 also may cause laurancite disease in irons or uncontrolled rusting cheers steve --- On Sat, 1/28/12, Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Steve Dunklee steve.dunk...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Etching

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread MexicoDoug
Sure Mark, now that you dropped the respectful line completely, I don't appreciate being baited. One last item - you may want to calculate the percent composition of the 3 molar (normal) solution you are recommending and compare the figure to Bretherick's data for instability. What a

Re: [meteorite-list] (no subject)

2012-01-27 Thread Pete Pete
Excellent idea, Gary! It would be nice if we had a central storage site where this type of historic data could be saved and easily shared. I've got the Encyclopedia Britannica Ninth Edition, 1890, kicking around here somewhere. I'll follow your lead and try to scan anything relevant and

Re: [meteorite-list] Antique Encyclopedia Entries

2012-01-27 Thread Pete Pete
(Subject line added) Excellent idea, Gary! It would be nice if we had a central storage site where this type of historic data could be saved and easily shared. I've got the Encyclopedia Britannica Ninth Edition, 1890, kicking around here somewhere. I'll follow

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution

2012-01-27 Thread Mark Grossman
and then said to be careful with chemicals which had been repeated by all before you joined the thread (well that is worthwhile repeating). And that is the moral of the story. Mark Mark Grossman Meteorite Manuscripts - Original Message - From: MexicoDoug mexicod...@aim.com To:

Re: [meteorite-list] Etching solution msds ferric chloride

2012-01-27 Thread MexicoDoug
Thanks for that MSDS Steve. So useful for the properties of ferric chloride conveniently in your link. One more thing to the discussion which IMO is constructive and useful to anyone considering etching with some practical numbers but by no means intended to be a manual sicne there are many