Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response
At the end of the day, many of the key people also perpetuate these conspiracy myths because they sell an awful lot of books, plus it maybe gains them the attention they probably never got as a kid. Imho it's the same with the crop circles, UFO's, ghosts, yeti, bigfoot's, water monsters etc. Usually it's often very intelligent but slightly deluded people, who feed off other much more deluded people, and through positive re-enforcement you end up with a community of people all firmly believing in exactly the same thing and unable to accept the truth no matter what anyone else says. People love being in groups with others of similar values it's as simple as that (hey we all joined the met-list didn't we). Problem comes when these theories start to skew the rest of society's view of the truth too, I firmly believe that these conspiracy theories are not just 'harmless fun' they represent serious pollution and we should be far less tolerant of many of them, so long as there is still room for being sensibly open minded that is... Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Sent: 26 April 2010 03:34 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response in Fake Lunar Landing Response at http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-April/063904.html E. P. (Grondine) wrote: In theosophist religions, the Moon, Mars, and other planets were all inhabited. One of these theosophist religions, the Lemurian Fellowship, was stolen by Richard Kieninger, who went into business with David Hatcher Childress. ...text deleted... Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits right in with the Face on Mars for them. It is not only the theosophist religions that have a theological basis for denying human beings having landed on the Moon. In addition, a minority of Hindus, who promote Vedic science and argue that the deevolution of human beings has been going for the last few billion years also are very strong proponents of the Moon Landing hoax claims. This position is based on what they consider to be the impossibility for the Apollo astronauts to have traveled to the Moon because of both physically or spiritual factors that they argue are clearly explained in the Vedas. Their theological arguments against the Moon landings bring real are discussed in detail by a Hare Krishna web page, Man On The Moon–A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars at; http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of-dollars/ For example, this web page states: The Vedic account of our planetary system is already researched, concluded, and perfect. The Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 million miles as the distance from the earth to the sun, how could the “astronauts” have traveled to the moon–a distance of almost 94 million miles– in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the Apollo 11 moon trip)? Further down it, the above web page states: Another important reason why the manned moon landing must be a hoax is that, according to the Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one planet to another without becoming properly qualified. This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for instance, he has to give up his present gross material body and acquire another one suitable for life on that particular planet. Other revealing web pages are: The Apollo Moon Landings are Science Fiction http://krishna.org/the-apollo-moon-landings-are-science-fiction/ The Moon Missions: Oh Ye of Little Faith http://krishna.org/the-moon-missions-oh-ye-of-little-faith/ Moon Mission Web Pages http://krishna.org/tag/moon-mission/ As in case of the antievolution fervor of various Young and Old creationists, I personally suspect that a significant force behind the arguments behind the claims that the Moon Landings were a hoax is a religious one. I also suspect that unlike the creationist antievolutionists, the promoters of the Moon Landing hoax have been for the most part, but not always, been careful to hide their religious motivations behind seemingly secular web sites. Of course as in case of antievolution, there are also a number of conspiracy fans, who for purely secular, nonreligious reasons, advocate and promote the fiction about there having been a Moon Landing hoax. Yours, Paul H. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response
Hey, you forgot Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny and Leprechauns. They generate billions of dollars, just in candy and green beer! (Don't mix them though) (From my iphone in area 51) Dennis Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:29:48 +0100 From: mark.f...@ssl.gb.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response At the end of the day, many of the key people also perpetuate these conspiracy myths because they sell an awful lot of books, plus it maybe gains them the attention they probably never got as a kid. Imho it's the same with the crop circles, UFO's, ghosts, yeti, bigfoot's, water monsters etc. Usually it's often very intelligent but slightly deluded people, who feed off other much more deluded people, and through positive re-enforcement you end up with a community of people all firmly believing in exactly the same thing and unable to accept the truth no matter what anyone else says. People love being in groups with others of similar values it's as simple as that (hey we all joined the met-list didn't we). Problem comes when these theories start to skew the rest of society's view of the truth too, I firmly believe that these conspiracy theories are not just 'harmless fun' they represent serious pollution and we should be far less tolerant of many of them, so long as there is still room for being sensibly open minded that is... Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Sent: 26 April 2010 03:34 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response in Fake Lunar Landing Response at http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-April/063904.html E. P. (Grondine) wrote: In theosophist religions, the Moon, Mars, and other planets were all inhabited. One of these theosophist religions, the Lemurian Fellowship, was stolen by Richard Kieninger, who went into business with David Hatcher Childress. ...text deleted... Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits right in with the Face on Mars for them. It is not only the theosophist religions that have a theological basis for denying human beings having landed on the Moon. In addition, a minority of Hindus, who promote Vedic science and argue that the deevolution of human beings has been going for the last few billion years also are very strong proponents of the Moon Landing hoax claims. This position is based on what they consider to be the impossibility for the Apollo astronauts to have traveled to the Moon because of both physically or spiritual factors that they argue are clearly explained in the Vedas. Their theological arguments against the Moon landings bring real are discussed in detail by a Hare Krishna web page, Man On The Moon–A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars at; http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of-dollars/ For example, this web page states: The Vedic account of our planetary system is already researched, concluded, and perfect. The Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 million miles as the distance from the earth to the sun, how could the “astronauts” have traveled to the moon–a distance of almost 94 million miles– in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the Apollo 11 moon trip)? Further down it, the above web page states: Another important reason why the manned moon landing must be a hoax is that, according to the Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one planet to another without becoming properly qualified. This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for instance, he has to give up his present gross material body and acquire another one suitable for life on that particular planet. Other revealing web pages are: The Apollo Moon Landings are Science Fiction http://krishna.org/the-apollo-moon-landings-are-science-fiction/ The Moon Missions: Oh Ye of Little Faith http://krishna.org/the-moon-missions-oh-ye-of-little-faith/ Moon Mission Web Pages http://krishna.org/tag/moon-mission/ As in case of the antievolution fervor of various Young and Old creationists, I personally suspect that a significant force behind the arguments behind the claims that the Moon Landings were a hoax is a religious one. I also suspect that unlike the creationist antievolutionists, the promoters of the Moon Landing hoax have been for the most part, but not always, been careful to hide their religious motivations behind seemingly secular
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response
You get cellphone coverage in area 51?? - You must be one of 'them' ;) -Original Message- From: Dennis Miller [mailto:astror...@hotmail.com] Sent: 26 April 2010 15:49 To: Mark Ford; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response Hey, you forgot Santa Clause, The Easter Bunny and Leprechauns. They generate billions of dollars, just in candy and green beer! (Don't mix them though) (From my iphone in area 51) Dennis Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:29:48 +0100 From: mark.f...@ssl.gb.com To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response At the end of the day, many of the key people also perpetuate these conspiracy myths because they sell an awful lot of books, plus it maybe gains them the attention they probably never got as a kid. Imho it's the same with the crop circles, UFO's, ghosts, yeti, bigfoot's, water monsters etc. Usually it's often very intelligent but slightly deluded people, who feed off other much more deluded people, and through positive re-enforcement you end up with a community of people all firmly believing in exactly the same thing and unable to accept the truth no matter what anyone else says. People love being in groups with others of similar values it's as simple as that (hey we all joined the met-list didn't we). Problem comes when these theories start to skew the rest of society's view of the truth too, I firmly believe that these conspiracy theories are not just 'harmless fun' they represent serious pollution and we should be far less tolerant of many of them, so long as there is still room for being sensibly open minded that is... Mark -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Paul H. Sent: 26 April 2010 03:34 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response in Fake Lunar Landing Response at http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/meteorite-list/2010-April/063904.html E. P. (Grondine) wrote: In theosophist religions, the Moon, Mars, and other planets were all inhabited. One of these theosophist religions, the Lemurian Fellowship, was stolen by Richard Kieninger, who went into business with David Hatcher Childress. ...text deleted... Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits right in with the Face on Mars for them. It is not only the theosophist religions that have a theological basis for denying human beings having landed on the Moon. In addition, a minority of Hindus, who promote Vedic science and argue that the deevolution of human beings has been going for the last few billion years also are very strong proponents of the Moon Landing hoax claims. This position is based on what they consider to be the impossibility for the Apollo astronauts to have traveled to the Moon because of both physically or spiritual factors that they argue are clearly explained in the Vedas. Their theological arguments against the Moon landings bring real are discussed in detail by a Hare Krishna web page, Man On The Moon-A Colossal Hoax that Cost Billions of Dollars at; http://krishna.org/man-on-the-moon-a-colossal-hoax-that-cost-billions-of -dollars/ For example, this web page states: The Vedic account of our planetary system is already researched, concluded, and perfect. The Vedas state that the moon is 800,000 miles farther from the earth than the sun. Therefore, even if we accept the modern calculation of 93 million miles as the distance from the earth to the sun, how could the astronauts have traveled to the moon-a distance of almost 94 million miles- in only 91 hours (the alleged elapsed time of the Apollo 11 moon trip)? Further down it, the above web page states: Another important reason why the manned moon landing must be a hoax is that, according to the Vedas, each planet has its particular standard of living and atmosphere, and no one can transfer from one planet to another without becoming properly qualified. This means that if someone wants to go to Mars, for instance, he has to give up his present gross material body and acquire another one suitable for life on that particular planet. Other revealing web pages are: The Apollo Moon Landings are Science Fiction http://krishna.org/the-apollo-moon-landings-are-science-fiction/ The Moon Missions: Oh Ye of Little Faith http://krishna.org/the-moon-missions-oh-ye-of-little-faith/ Moon Mission Web Pages http://krishna.org/tag/moon-mission/ As in case of the antievolution fervor of various Young and Old creationists, I personally suspect that a significant force behind the arguments behind the claims that the Moon
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 09:48:34 -0500, you wrote: Hey, you forgot Santa Clause, Well, The Santa Clause hinged on Tim Allen's dubious star power, coming in the middle of the run of his popular show Home Improvement. But back to the moon, I notice that the book by the nut in the Penn and Teller clip I had linked earler is available as a PDF. Here it is, if you have the stomach for an insane moron: http://rs782.rapidshare.com/files/295611597/NASA_mooned_america.pdf __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Fake Lunar Landing Response
Hi all - Having met most of the Apollo astronauts way back when, and having joined Dr. Aldrin and Jack Schmitt over buffets several times, here's a little more of the story, right from here in Kempton, Illinois. In theosophist religions, the Moon, Mars, and other planets were all inhabited. One of these theosophist religions, the Lemurian Fellowship, was stolen by Richard Kieninger, who went into business with David Hatcher Childress. When Richard was thrown out of his community by his own followers for the second of three times for seducing their wives and teenage daughters, Hatcher went independent with Richard's mailing list, founding Adventures Unlimited Press. He later gathered some of those theosophist materials together to write Extra-terrestrial Archaeology. When this confused Brit came along David stuck a deal with him, and ran his materials out via his well developed computer mailing operation and PR channels. Insanity has a logic of its own, in this case a well developed framework of delusions. Why didn't the Apollo astronauts land on the Moon? Because they did not show the Moon dwellers' remains. It fits right in with the Face on Mars for them. Hopefully the new lunar images showing the Apollo hardware will put an end to this nonsense, but I doubt it: I think the believers and confused, some 7% of the young US population, will simply reject them as being fakes as well. Strike at the root instead. If any of you want a copy of Amazing Stories, my biography of Richard, simply e-mail me off list. And be sure to share it with your friends. E.P. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
