Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
That should help the relationship between the farmers and hunters thenespecially if they work out the price per gram as you have or follow the posts on this list! I think the landowners will take quite a lot of persuading that it is very unlikely that larger pieces will sell for this price per gram. Graham, UK Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com wrote: Steve's first auction just closed at around $538.00 per gram. 0.117 sample closed at $63.00 I wonder if it comes with a free hunting demo from Jeff and a fruit basket at Christmas time? :) Warren Sansoucie Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:28:28 -0400 From: countde...@earthlink.net To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; mrmeteor...@gmail.com; meteoritefin...@gmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks. Guido -Original Message- From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM To: Ruben Garcia , Mike Miller Cc: Meteorite-list , Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale Hi Ruben, I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry. I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though. I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-) Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper Cheers, Graham, UK Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
That's just the thing. Meteorite Men is a great hit. It has a lot of new followers. These pieces have a lot more going for them besides the fact that they are an extremely popular fall. They were found by Steve during filming. They are going to hold a higher value, especially if the collector keeps all the records and weights in tact. Warren Sansoucie Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:50:34 +0100 From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; warren3...@hotmail.com; countde...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale That should help the relationship between the farmers and hunters thenespecially if they work out the price per gram as you have or follow the posts on this list! I think the landowners will take quite a lot of persuading that it is very unlikely that larger pieces will sell for this price per gram. Graham, UK Warren Sansoucie wrote: Steve's first auction just closed at around $538.00 per gram. 0.117 sample closed at $63.00 I wonder if it comes with a free hunting demo from Jeff and a fruit basket at Christmas time? :) Warren Sansoucie Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:28:28 -0400 From: countde...@earthlink.net To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; mrmeteor...@gmail.com; meteoritefin...@gmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks. Guido -Original Message- From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM To: Ruben Garcia , Mike Miller Cc: Meteorite-list , Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale Hi Ruben, I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry. I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though. I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-) Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper Cheers, Graham, UK Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
Warren, Steve, List, This is insane. IMHO it does not speak to the value of the other meteorite finds at all. Unless all things are equal? Provenance is King here. 1). This is from the meteorite men Himself.. People will pay more because it is a Steve self find. 2). If Bob Haag had found this it might be worth even more. 3). First sale ( offering) on eBay of this material. The ist's are always a premium. ie. biggest, etc. 4). Was featured on the news and likely on next season's show. 5). Early recovery. No weathering. 6). No other meteorites from this fall will have the same impact as this one. Except maybe the hammer stone from shed. 7). This in No way reflects the true value except for this sale and by Steve. 8). The implication is that now Farmers will prefer Steve as a partner unless others do offer these stupid prices as well. 9). Steve is showing signs of true brilliance here. Sorry Steve, Just stating the obvious here. Will you sell my finds for me If I find any? Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Warren Sansoucie warren3...@hotmail.com wrote: Steve's first auction just closed at around $538.00 per gram. 0.117 sample closed at $63.00 I wonder if it comes with a free hunting demo from Jeff and a fruit basket at Christmas time? :) Warren Sansoucie Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:28:28 -0400 From: countde...@earthlink.net To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; mrmeteor...@gmail.com; meteoritefin...@gmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks. Guido -Original Message- From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM To: Ruben Garcia , Mike Miller Cc: Meteorite-list , Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale Hi Ruben, I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry. I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though. I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-) Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper Cheers, Graham, UK Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
Ruben and list. If someone is promising 50% of the value, then they should honor their word. Not tell the land owners they are only worth $4/g then give them $2/g pretending that is 50% of the real value. If a hunter only wants to max give up $2/g then they should be honest and say up front, before they start hunting: I'm willing to give you $2/g for anything I find, do we have a deal? If someone is claiming they are only worth $4/g, but later the land owner finds out the real value is $20/g then there might be a reason to think someone isn't being honest. My suggestion to those still in the field still is to be 100% honest with the land owners, and I would think you would have nothing to be afraid of. If giving up 50% of say $100/g is too much, then offer them 40% or 20% or 10% or 2%. If $50/g is too high of a field price, then supply and demand between the hunters in the field will ratchet the percentage down to something more fair like 15% or maybe 20% of $100/g. I know that yesterday, there were people knocking on doors in the strewnfield offering the locals $20/g. It would not surprize me if tomorrow there will be people knocking on doors offering $30 then $40 then $50/g. In fact, I left on Sunday for NY and when I got back, the land owner where I found my biggest rock told Geoff and I that there was a group of guys that came to his door and said that I was a con man, that I rip people off, that I'm being sued, that he (the land owner) would never see a penny from me and that his only chance to see any money was if he somehow got the rock back from me ASAP and sold it to one of them for $5,000 cash. So I don't buy into the BS that if the meteorites stay off ebay while the hunters are still in the field, that means the locals won't wise up to the real values anyway in the mean time. Steve Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:50:28 To: Mike Millermeteoritefin...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Brian Coxsearchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
Steve and list, I meant no disrespect to you or Mike as I consider you both friends. My only point was that Mike was correct in assuming that I nor anyone else would sell publicly - since that was what we tried to do in West. So you and everyone else can certainly do anything you want with your finds. I just felt that maybe I needed to apologize. However, I am not asking you to do the same. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:28 AM, meteorh...@aol.com wrote: Ruben and list. If someone is promising 50% of the value, then they should honor their word. Not tell the land owners they are only worth $4/g then give them $2/g pretending that is 50% of the real value. If a hunter only wants to max give up $2/g then they should be honest and say up front, before they start hunting: I'm willing to give you $2/g for anything I find, do we have a deal? If someone is claiming they are only worth $4/g, but later the land owner finds out the real value is $20/g then there might be a reason to think someone isn't being honest. My suggestion to those still in the field still is to be 100% honest with the land owners, and I would think you would have nothing to be afraid of. If giving up 50% of say $100/g is too much, then offer them 40% or 20% or 10% or 2%. If $50/g is too high of a field price, then supply and demand between the hunters in the field will ratchet the percentage down to something more fair like 15% or maybe 20% of $100/g. I know that yesterday, there were people knocking on doors in the strewnfield offering the locals $20/g. It would not surprize me if tomorrow there will be people knocking on doors offering $30 then $40 then $50/g. In fact, I left on Sunday for NY and when I got back, the land owner where I found my biggest rock told Geoff and I that there was a group of guys that came to his door and said that I was a con man, that I rip people off, that I'm being sued, that he (the land owner) would never see a penny from me and that his only chance to see any money was if he somehow got the rock back from me ASAP and sold it to one of them for $5,000 cash. So I don't buy into the BS that if the meteorites stay off ebay while the hunters are still in the field, that means the locals won't wise up to the real values anyway in the mean time. Steve Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel -Original Message- From: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:50:28 To: Mike Millermeteoritefin...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Brian Coxsearchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
Hi Ruben, I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry. I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though. I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-) Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper Cheers, Graham, UK Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks. Guido -Original Message- From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM To: Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com, Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com Cc: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale Hi Ruben, I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry. I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though. I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-) Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper Cheers, Graham, UK Ruben Garcia mrmeteor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller meteoritefin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale
Steve's first auction just closed at around $538.00 per gram. 0.117 sample closed at $63.00 I wonder if it comes with a free hunting demo from Jeff and a fruit basket at Christmas time? :) Warren Sansoucie Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:28:28 -0400 From: countde...@earthlink.net To: ensorama...@ntlworld.com; mrmeteor...@gmail.com; meteoritefin...@gmail.com CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale I already offered Ruben $5. He said thanks. Guido -Original Message- From: ensorama...@ntlworld.com Sent: Apr 24, 2010 2:57 PM To: Ruben Garcia , Mike Miller Cc: Meteorite-list , Brian Cox Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wisconsin meteorites for sale Hi Ruben, I'm sure if it was a private sale and the cost price per gram was not revealed then that would not upset any one...so I shouldn't worry. I could solve the whole problem for you and those still out there though. I'll buy the stone you showed for $5/g and we can make sure it gets really well known out in Livingstone...then everybody will be happy ;-) Great work by the way Ruben/Hopper Cheers, Graham, UK Ruben Garcia wrote: Hi all, Mike Miller is absolutely right! Unfortunately (for me) I may have started this whole thing (Although I was careful not to mention a dollar amount) I was the first to offer a Wisconsin stone for sale. The problem is obvious - when a local gets word that a stone is worth x amount of dollars then that is what they will want half of - if you find one on their property. So if the going rate to farmers/land owners is $20 per gram then it could go to $50g if they feel that Wisconsin space rocks are selling for $100g. I was being selfish and once I left the field forgot someone else could be hurt by my actions. My sincere apologies to all still in the field! Ruben Garcia On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:23 AM, Mike Miller wrote: Hi Brian I don't think I have ever been involved in an argument on this list and I wont start one here either. I am just pointing out the standard edict that we as a group of meteorite hunters have worked out over the past few years. When I say we I mean Steve Arnold of the meteorite men along with myself and most every other hunter and dealer on this list. Steve had something to say about this very same situation when another list member from Chicago mentioned a price while we were still in West Texas hunting. If I remember correctly Steve Arnold of the meteorite men, was very upset when he was the one out in the field and someone else was causing the same problem he is now saying he must do. On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Brian Cox wrote: I just want to mention that it's the business of whomever is selling their meteorites either from Wisconsin or West or Buzzard Coulee or from wherever and I am not judging anyone on that. Sell them on ebay or on a website or by silent or private auction. The price is not up to me nor anyone, but by what the market will set that price at. Either way it's done just please remember that we are a Small Group and should be a tightly knit group, although we do often debate and sometimes argue about the processes and procedures we go through. With this new fall there certainly will be more people coming to everyone's websites and on ebay and researching information and coming to the Met List. We all need to be as straightforward and honest and yes, I will certainly try to be as respectful in my opinions and I request that everyone else be respectful of one another. Enjoy the weekend everyone. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Mike Miller 230 Greenway Dr. Kingman Az 86401 www.meteoritefinder.com 928-753-6825 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Rock On! Ruben Garcia Website: http://www.mr-meteorite.net Articles: http://www.meteorite.com/blog/ Videos: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=meteorfright#p/u __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
