Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2006 14:02 schrieb Angus McIntyre:
Which raises the whole question for me with XFN, which is a practical
one, rather than a technical one: do we really want the world to know
all that stuff about us? I keep finding myself torn between the
desire to implement XFN just
Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2006 23:09 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
Simply defining any tutorial not from one of the famous elite
microformats authors as unnecessary nonsense is the fastest way to make
microformats a secret elite format, unknown to and unused by the rest
of the world.
and who did
Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2006 01:57 schrieb Mike Schinkel:
Thanks for the comment, but I wasn't able to figure out what point you were
trying to make.
Were you saying that Microformats will develop to be a standard? If that
was your point, I don't debate it; I expect it. But w/o
On 12/20/06, Angus McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are all kinds of inferences that it's dangerous to draw from an
incomplete description.
I concur, Microformats allow us to publish information, but the
absence of them shouldn't be taken as conveying information.
Which raises the
Am Donnerstag, 21. Dezember 2006 11:10 schrieb Ciaran McNulty:
In my day job, I keep seeing places where an hCard would be useful
where organisations are publishing contact information, but far from
wanting to make it easily parsable they seem to put all their efforts
into trying to obfuscate
On 21/12/06, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/20/06, Angus McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There are all kinds of inferences that it's dangerous to draw from an
incomplete description.
I concur, Microformats allow us to publish information, but the
absence of them shouldn't be
Benjamin West wrote:
Without commenting on the rest, I'd just like to point out
that the main reason for avoiding invisible meta data is
because visible data is updated more often than invisible
data. Spam is secondary to this principle. This is a
usability phenomenon, not a spam
Benjamin West wrote:
I don't know if it's true either. Tantek suggests I'm being
a bad scientist by allowing myself to look for patterns.
Maybe that's why I'm a fish out of water here; discovering patterns is one
of my strongest interests and one of my best skills.
BTW, I didn't see this
Angus McIntyre wrote:
Google just doesn't - as far as I know - use either the
keywords or the description in order to decide how to index
the page, because of the problem of keyword stuffing.
Some invisible metadata can be potentially abused by spammers, but not all.
It depends on the nature
On 21 Dec 2006, at 10:10, Ciaran McNulty wrote:
Inherent in the Microformats movement is the desire to make
information easier to publish and aggregate, but people need to
consider carefully what parts they want to make available about
themselves and their relationships to others.
In my day
I'm not sure who originally wrote:
Tantek suggests I'm being
a bad scientist by allowing myself to look for patterns.
To be clear, collecting examples (data) and looking for patterns is exactly
what the process asks you to do.
Others skip the collecting examples (data) step and simply dream
On 12/21/06, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure who originally wrote:
I did.
Others skip the collecting examples (data) step and simply dream up patterns
based on their intuition (or expertise) - perhaps that is what you mean by
allowing myself to look for patterns.
It was
I've been doing some work with software designed to make it easy for
foundations to get on the web, so I'm definitely interested. But... the
whole microformats thing will be much less painful if you become
familiar with The Process as soon as possible.[1]
The first thing you should know is that
On 12/21/06 10:24 AM, Benjamin West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/21/06, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure who originally wrote:
I did.
Others skip the collecting examples (data) step and simply dream up patterns
based on their intuition (or expertise) - perhaps that is
Ah, thanks for the context Ben. The quote makes more sense in that context,
but I still feel makes a statement that I wouldn't make.
Oops! I didn't mean to do anything like that!
It's an interesting hypothesis, but I believe what I was pointing out from
the IRC conversation is that you may
Hi Christopher,
Christopher St John wrote:
I've been doing some work with software designed to make it easy for
foundations to get on the web, so I'm definitely interested. But... the
whole microformats thing will be much less painful if you become
familiar with The Process as soon as
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Am Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2006 23:09 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
Simply defining any tutorial not from one of the famous elite
microformats authors as unnecessary nonsense is the fastest way to make
microformats a secret elite
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