Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Micky Hulse
Howdy again! :) On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > Sorry, just going to point out again (pet peeve of mine), there are no "CSS > classes", only "HTML classes". :P Doh! Sorry, I did not catch that the first time. :( My tendency is to say CSS classes when referring to the

Re: [uf-discuss] Quick formatting question

2012-06-09 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi Stephen, thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it. :) On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > There's a difference between "sufficient" and "the best".  When you have no > choice, the fn heuristic is nice, but I personally always prefer explicit > markup. Cool! So

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Somebody claiming to be Micky Hulse wrote: >On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Stephen Paul Weber > wrote: >> Somebody claiming to be Micky Hulse wrote: >I should have clarified... I don't mind that microformats use CSS >classes Sorry, just going to p

Re: [uf-discuss] Quick formatting question

2012-06-09 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Somebody claiming to be Micky Hulse wrote: >Doh, I missed these relies for some reason. Thanks for the pro help >all, I really appreciate it. :) > >On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Stephen Paul Weber > wrote: >> I would not use a , and if you can you

Re: [uf-discuss] Quick formatting question

2012-06-09 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi Martin! Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Martin Leese wrote: > These would be valid XHTML but invalid HTML. > When he is done, Micky should pass the code > through a validator; see: > http://validator.w3.org/ Great idea. In this case, I forgot to

Re: [uf-discuss] Quick formatting question

2012-06-09 Thread Micky Hulse
Doh, I missed these relies for some reason. Thanks for the pro help all, I really appreciate it. :) On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > I would not use a , and if you can you should do the full n markup > (marking up which is the given and family name, etc).   is self-clo

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Martin Leese
Micky Hulse wrote: > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: >> As far as microdata, that's sort of a seperate thing. ?Microdata is in flux >> and there are no community-driven vocabularies or formats for it (there are >> some WHATWG-driven and Google-driven formats, but that's

Re: [uf-discuss] Quick formatting question

2012-06-09 Thread Martin Leese
Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > Somebody claiming to be Micky Hulse wrote: >>On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Micky Hulse >> wrote: >>> If so, would the below syntax be acceptable? >> > > I would not use a , and if you can you should do the full n markup > (marking up

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Micky Hulse
Hi Stephen, On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > Somebody claiming to be Micky Hulse wrote: >>Purely from a readability perspective, I like that microdata is not >>using CSS classes > > Ah, that's a common misconception.   HTML classes have nothing to do with > CSS.  You c

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Somebody claiming to be Micky Hulse wrote: >Purely from a readability perspective, I like that microdata is not >using CSS classes Ah, that's a common misconception. HTML classes have nothing to do with CSS. You can style classes with CSS becaus

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Micky Hulse
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Micky Hulse wrote: > I thought this was interesting: [[ Q: Why microdata? Why not RDFa or microformats? Focusing on microdata was a pragmatic decision. Supporting multiple syntaxes makes documentation for webmasters more complex and int

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Micky Hulse
On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote: > As far as microdata, that's sort of a seperate thing.  Microdata is in flux > and there are no community-driven vocabularies or formats for it (there are > some WHATWG-driven and Google-driven formats, but that's hardly a community > con

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Somebody claiming to be Martin Leese wrote: >hResume. These, however, are all still draft >standards, and are not as well supported as >hCard. This presents me with a problem. I'm not sure about hMedia/hAudio, but hResume is fairly well supported.

Re: [uf-discuss] Quick formatting question

2012-06-09 Thread Stephen Paul Weber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Somebody claiming to be Micky Hulse wrote: >On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Micky Hulse wrote: >> If so, would the below syntax be acceptable? > I would not use a , and if you can you should do the full n markup (m

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats versus Microdata

2012-06-09 Thread Mathias Panzenböck
Well, Google recommends microdata before microformats: http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=99170 On 06/09/2012 07:09 AM, Micky Hulse wrote: On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Martin Leese wrote: It is already clear that Microdata will be well supported. On the other