Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value (Was: Should microformat features (like rel-tag) have explicit scope?)

2007-02-28 Thread Lisa Rein
oops. that was supposed to go to kevin marks :-) lisa hey you, great seeing you at the cc salon last week. what's raj's email at the archive again? is it just raj@ or something. really really (really) need that updated compression info we were discussing. thanks!!! lisa

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Kaply
On 2/26/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could create a directory for each tag. For example... http://dogear.example.com/html/tag/collaboration/ http://dogear.example.com/html/tag/programming/ http://dogear.example.com/html/tag/linguistics/ Again server changes

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-27 Thread Brian Suda
On 2/27/07, Mike Kaply [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incidentally, has anyone that worked on rel-tag ever read this: http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity --- i would agree that you can't infer information of just ANY URL, but because the publisher has EXPLICITLY added the rel-tag, i would say

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Reynen
On Feb 27, 2007, at 2:14 PM, Mike Kaply wrote: On 2/26/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could create a directory for each tag. For example... http://dogear.example.com/html/tag/collaboration/ http://dogear.example.com/html/tag/programming/

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Kaply
On 2/27/07, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say if you're restricted to using a single tag space, and you don't have enough control over that tag space to create directories (a functionality available on any server), you have an exceptional case not covered by rel-tag. But there's no

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-27 Thread James Craig
Mike Kaply wrote: Microformats that require specific settings on your web server, and access by the user to configure that web server if necessary and a very specific syntax that you might not be able to accomplish with your configuration: rel-tag Don't forget it's also the only one that

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-27 Thread Scott Reynen
On Feb 27, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Mike Kaply wrote: This all points back to the original problem which I still haven't got a good explanation for. Microformats that require no custom changes to servers or web page: XFN hCard hCalendar hAtom hReview Address hResume xFolk Microformats that require

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value (Was: Should microformat features (like rel-tag) have explicit scope?)

2007-02-26 Thread Mike Kaply
Let me post a concrete example in this arena, and maybe someone can come up with some suggestions. Let's say your company has an internal version of delicious. The URLs look like this: http://dogear.example.com/html?tag=collaboration How do you tag this using rel tag? If one of the

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-26 Thread Derrick Lyndon Pallas
Mike Kaply wrote: The URLs look like this: http://dogear.example.com/html?tag=collaboration How do you tag this using rel tag? If one of the fundamental principles of microformats is the ability to add microformats to existing web pages, how does it work with existing tagspaces that don't

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-26 Thread Mike Kaply
On 2/26/07, Derrick Lyndon Pallas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, you're the only one that can evaluate your situation; if you want to make your application work with rel-tag, you need a conforming tag-space. The easiest thing to do would be to set up a redirect that takes URLs of the form

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value

2007-02-26 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello Mike, On 2/26/07, Mike Kaply [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2/26/07, Derrick Lyndon Pallas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously, you're the only one that can evaluate your situation; if you want to make your application work with rel-tag, you need a conforming tag-space. The easiest thing

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value (Was: Should microformat features (like rel-tag) have explicit scope?)

2007-02-26 Thread Angus McIntyre
On Mon, February 26, 2007 11:53 am, Mike Kaply wrote: ... please don't say use an external tagspace The tag might be an internal only product or a codename, so the tagspace belongs inside the company. This actually relates to an issue I've been dealing with. I have a bunch of places where I

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value (Was: Should microformat features (like rel-tag) have explicit scope?)

2007-02-26 Thread Scott Reynen
On Feb 26, 2007, at 12:13 PM, Angus McIntyre wrote: On Mon, February 26, 2007 11:53 am, Mike Kaply wrote: ... please don't say use an external tagspace The tag might be an internal only product or a codename, so the tagspace belongs inside the company. This actually relates to an issue I've

Re: [uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value (Was: Should microformat features (like rel-tag) have explicit scope?)

2007-02-24 Thread Kevin Marks
On Feb 24, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Mike Kaply wrote: Was there a reason in the original creation of rel-tag that no one thought to allow title to specify the tagname? Yes, the idea was to make it more resilient against gaming by requiring the URL to embody the tag. This followed existing

[uf-discuss] rel-tag title as tag value (Was: Should microformat features (like rel-tag) have explicit scope?)

2007-02-07 Thread James Craig
Edward O'Connor wrote: James Craig wrote: Requiring a restful URL for rel-tag (though the ideal solution) is expecting a lot more of a µf author than requiring authors to add a bit of markup. While properly implementing a tag space may be slightly more difficult[1] than other methods for