Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-26 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 26, 2006, at 7:48 PM, Antonio Touriño wrote: I'd want to take advantage of it to decide where to start, but not where to end. A search engine should seek to maximize the search area to improve results. I want to look at everything on your site, unless instructed otherwise. If there

RE: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Phil Haack
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Breton Blake Slivka Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:52 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page Hello, I myself am new to the discussion list, though perhaps I might be able

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Breton Blake Slivka
sense. What's the current discussion around this issue? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Breton Blake Slivka Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:52 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Pat Ramsey
The different Greasemonkey scripts also do a good job finding some implementations of microformats:http://microformats.org/wiki/greasemonkeyCheers! PatOn 3/24/06, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has been an on-and-off discussion that ought to be documentedsomewhere -- well, at least

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Ryan King
On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:52 PM, Breton Blake Slivka wrote: Hello, I myself am new to the discussion list, though perhaps I might be able to shed *some* light on your question. From what I understand, if a page includes microformats, that page / should/ link to an xmdp profile for each

RE: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Phil Haack
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimitri Glazkov Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:18 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page This has been an on-and-off discussion that ought to be documented somewhere -- well, at least its progress. I wouldn't say that there's

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:17 PM, Phil Haack wrote: I can envision something similar with Microformats. Suppose I point my brand spanking new Microformats enabled RSS Bandit towards http://glazkov.com/ and it pops up a list of various Microformats on that page. Wonderful! The bummer is that

RE: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Phil Haack
-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page Because feed auto-discovery links are in the content, not the headers of HTTP responses, aggregators have to download the entire page, and most aggregators search first for link type=alternate ... tags, and second for something like a href

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
? Is it a bad idea? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reynen Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 11:50 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page Because feed auto-discovery links are in the content

RE: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Phil Haack
, March 24, 2006 12:41 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page I find it to be an interesting idea, though I strongly suggest that such a sitemap should be optional, and user agents should crawl the entire site when no such sitemap exists

RE: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Phil Haack
, March 24, 2006 12:44 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page Are you guys talking about something like this, except in HTML? http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/docs/en/protocol.html :DG

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Ryan King
First of all, welcome to the list, Phil. I encourage you to read through the list archives and the wiki, there's a lot of background material and previous discussion there. On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Phil Haack wrote: People do read Microformat content directly which I understand. It

RE: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Phil Haack
First of all, welcome to the list, Phil. I encourage you to read through the list archives and the wiki, there's a lot of background material and previous discussion there. Thanks Ryan. I'm working through the material, but as you mentioned below, navigating and indexing content is a

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Scott Reynen
On Mar 24, 2006, at 4:20 PM, Ryan King wrote: Hmm, this sounds to me like a theoretical argument. I'd like to hear what experience people have had here. Has anyone here worked on crawling to index microformats? If so, what challenges did you face? Yes. The two I know of are reevoo,

RE: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Phil Haack
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antonio Touriño Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:17 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page Hi all, First post to the list after lurking for quite some time. Hopefully I don't come accross as too

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Breton Slivka
I've only just recently figured out what xmdp's are, and what they're capable of. I notice the structure of your hcard/hreview/hcalendar thing is such that you can pick an attribute, and search for bits of data which contain that attribute. Have you attempted to detect and parse XMDP's

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-23 Thread Breton Blake Slivka
Hello, I myself am new to the discussion list, though perhaps I might be able to shed *some* light on your question. From what I understand, if a page includes microformats, that page /should/ link to an xmdp profile for each microformat in the head of the document. This allows for