Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/1/07 11:26 AM, "James Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> If you want to carry on a theoretical discussion of namespaces, >> please do so >> elsewhere, for in practice, discussing them is a waste of time, and >> off-topic for microformats lists. > > Namespacing is n

Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread Tim Parkin
Ian Davis wrote: On 01/05/2007 17:03, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello Tantek, I think Ian may have meant... what about using (for Microformats) namespaces with pre-defined (and never changing) namespace prefixes (like in Java and Perl), instead of variable namespace prefixes (like in XML).

Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread Ian Davis
On 01/05/2007 17:03, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: Hello Tantek, I think Ian may have meant... what about using (for Microformats) namespaces with pre-defined (and never changing) namespace prefixes (like in Java and Perl), instead of variable namespace prefixes (like in XML). Yes. Of course

Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread James Craig
Tantek Çelik wrote: If you want to carry on a theoretical discussion of namespaces, please do so elsewhere, for in practice, discussing them is a waste of time, and off-topic for microformats lists. Namespacing is not off-topic for Microformats. Note the hAudio proposal. http://microformats

Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/1/07 9:03 AM, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Tantek, > > I think Ian may have meant... what about using (for Microformats) > namespaces with pre-defined (and never changing) namespace prefixes > (like in Java and Perl), instead of variable namespace prefixes (li

Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello Tantek, I think Ian may have meant... what about using (for Microformats) namespaces with pre-defined (and never changing) namespace prefixes (like in Java and Perl), instead of variable namespace prefixes (like in XML). See ya On 5/1/07, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/1/0

Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 5/1/07 1:01 AM, "Ian Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 01/05/2007 07:26, Tantek Çelik wrote: >> It's been tried by numerous groups, before microformats, and after. It's >> even been tried in the context of RSS and RDF, and in practice people write >> scrapers that look for namespace prefi

Re: namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-05-01 Thread Ian Davis
On 01/05/2007 07:26, Tantek Çelik wrote: It's been tried by numerous groups, before microformats, and after. It's even been tried in the context of RSS and RDF, and in practice people write scrapers that look for namespace prefixes as if they are part of the element name, not as mere shorthands

namespaces discussions off-topic (was Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?)

2007-04-30 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 4/30/07 6:20 PM, "James Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but this battle has been fought and > lost before. If you want to mount another advance, my +1 will be > right behind you, but my morale in the fight will not be very high. > The target is very well-entrenched. Namespaced content on t