Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread Jeremy Keith
I don't want to get anyone's hopes up but there's an interesting comment from Lawrence Meckan on the WaSP blog post: http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/#comment-57838 He's getting good results from up-to-date screen readers with advance verbosity settings and this little

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread Scott Reynen
I've been following this thread with some interest, and I have a question: what is the ideal amount of human interface with machine- readable content (when different from human-readable content) in microformats? In visual browsers, the current common interface is a minimal readability of

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread Jeremy Keith
Lawrence wrote: I should have more results uploaded late Wednesday AEST (I forgot to record the audio outputs in the initial test for this behaviour), which should mean they should go live around midday in Brighton. Excellent! I really appreciate you doing this. I see three possible

Re: [uf-discuss] Authority (was: Text::Microformat - a uf parser for Perl)

2007-04-30 Thread Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
Hi Andy, On Apr 28, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I can't prevent people from calling cats dogs either, but I'm certainly going to say something when it happens. This isn't case of people calling cats dogs; it's closer to the dispute over whether a Jack Russell Terrier is a breed

[uf-discuss] [rethinking abbr] Does object deserve another look?

2007-04-30 Thread Ryan Cannon
Perhaps I'm getting into this a bit late and this has already been brought up, but I've skimmed through the conversation and haven't seen it. Tantek's original proposal[1] was scrapped because it didn't work in Safari 1.2.1 (WebKit v125). Hasn't that particular browser version been

[uf-discuss] hReview type question

2007-04-30 Thread Nora Brown
I know this is partially addressed in the first hReview FAQ on the microformats wiki, but I have a more general question. I have been reading a lot about microformats, and have used hCard, but am fairly new to them overall. The possible values of 'type' are limited to: product | business | event

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Jeremy Keith wrote: I don't want to get anyone's hopes up but there's an interesting comment from Lawrence Meckan on the WaSP blog post: http://www.webstandards.org/2007/04/27/haccessibility/#comment-57838 He's getting good results from up-to-date screen readers with advance verbosity

Re: [uf-discuss] hReview type question

2007-04-30 Thread Conor O'Neill
I think this is a great question Nora. We're building a review publisher/aggregator built on hReview and we ended up dropping type from our reviews as it was confusing our beta testers and not really adding any value to our site. What is a movie? Most testers did not consider it a product,

Re: [uf-discuss] User Interface for Firefox/Operator

2007-04-30 Thread Mike Kaply
On 4/27/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mike, Is this going to be replacing XUL, XBL, etc etc? Actually, we're looking more for discussion just around how you would interact with microformats in the browser. For instance, do people like the Siderbar interface for

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread Jon Gibbins (dotjay)
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Jeremy Keith wrote: snip If there's a chance that adding an extra span inside the abbr element somehow helps screen readers, then that should probably be included in the test cases: http://microformats.org/wiki/assistive-technology-abbr-results Like I said, we

Re: [uf-discuss] [rethinking abbr] Does object deserve another look?

2007-04-30 Thread James Craig
The main problem, as I understood it, is that object[data] expects a URI, even if it doesn't know how to handle it, so the first suggestion is actually requesting the relative path ./20050125 which causes extra junk 404s (Ex. 1; not necessarily a bug). Some UAs even requested relative

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread James Craig
Jon Gibbins wrote: We can use rel on links, but could rel be used to permit something like this on a span: span class=dtstart rel=datetime:MMDDTHHMMSSZ+HHMMDD Month/span Hi John, I'm glad you mentioned this. It's been discussed before and shot down given the reference, namespaces

Re: [uf-discuss] changing abbr-design-pattern to title-design-pattern?

2007-04-30 Thread Scott Reynen
On Apr 30, 2007, at 8:20 PM, James Craig wrote: We can use rel on links, but could rel be used to permit something like this on a span: span class=dtstart rel=datetime:MMDDTHHMMSSZ+HHMMDD Month/span Hi John, I'm glad you mentioned this. It's been discussed before and shot down given

Re: [uf-discuss] [rethinking abbr] Does object deserve another look?

2007-04-30 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 1 mai 2007 à 09:53, James Craig a écrit : The main problem, as I understood it, is that object[data] expects a URI, even if it doesn't know how to handle it, so the first suggestion is actually requesting the relative path ./ 20050125 which causes extra junk 404s (Ex. 1; not necessarily

RE: Fwd: [uf-discuss] Legal implications of using Microformats

2007-04-30 Thread Joe Andrieu
Friday, April 27, 2007 9:23 AM, Manu Sporny wrote: Brian Suda wrote: --- if you can give-us any other information, who exactly the company is, etc and any other information from the legal team we can attempt to work around these problems or debunk the FUD. [snip] For those of you