On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Tantek Çelik tan...@cs.stanford.edu wrote:
All outstanding hCard and hCalendar issues have been resolved (except
for dtend).
If over the past several years you raised an issue on the wiki
regarding hCard and/or hCalendar, or if you work on an hCard/hCalendar
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Jonathan Malek
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You're right--we inherit from hAtom. After reading David James' post
on issues with hSlice:
http://blogmatrix.blogmatrix.com/:entry:blogmatrix-2008-03-05-/
Ugh...chalk it up to 3 weeks of vacation.
These are all in reference to this page:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom-issues
(1)
I've added a vote to many issues on _whether_ something should be
included in hAtom 0.2 (as opposed to deferring it for later). If it's
important to you, vote it up.
(2)
I've added a number of ToDo notes,
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Martin McEvoy mar...@weborganics.co.uk wrote:
Brian Suda wrote:
http://www.mediastandardstrust.org/medianews/newsdetails.aspx?sid=46551
Has anyone heard about the APs attempt to make a microformat? Did i
miss something or did they just go and do their own
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Martin McEvoymar...@weborganics.co.uk wrote:
1 the HTML version of or just HTML
2 The Greek letter micro μ (Mu) inverted
3 In hAtom, it the Irish pronunciation of h next to a vowel which is
softly spoken with a strong spoken A as in hay (is this correct David?)
Actually, the h in hAtom comes from the preferred way we
Irish-descended Newfoundlanders prefer to pronounce words beginning
with a vowel sound -- i.e. you should be saying it as two syllables,
not three ;-)
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I've been playing about with representing microformats ... hCard in
particular ... efficiently and usefully into JSON-type data
structures. Here's a blog post on the topic [1].
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at a lot of other contact schemas too).
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, David Janes davidja...@blogmatrix.com wrote:
I've been playing about with representing microformats ... hCard in
particular ... efficiently and usefully into JSON-type data
structures. Here's a blog post on the topic [1
at
urlhttp://code.davidjanes.com/url/vcard
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Glenn Jones
Isn't bookmarks.html obsolete now?
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make a
huge difference.
You can have a look at it here:
http://lexandera.com/mosembro/
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successfully. Thanks!
Hello James,
Also tested working at
http://transformr.co.uk/hatom/http://microformats.tumblr.com/
Interestingly enough there is a FOAF file too
http://transformr.co.uk/hfoaf/http://microformats.tumblr.com/ ;-)
great stuff James.
David Janes wrote:
Hmmm ... HTML
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On 17 Oct 2008, at 13:54, David Janes wrote:
I just read [1] about Yahoo's new profiles. Does anyone know if
Microformats are supported?
There are some.
You connections have hcards, although there's an error with class
I just read [1] about Yahoo's new profiles. Does anyone know if
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discussed in the
past, I apologize.
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Please come over to Onaswarm and try our Social Network Explorer.
Here's the brief blurb
Onaswarm is now provides a interface for finding out the social
That's better ... very embarrassing :-(
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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:31 AM, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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David Janes wrote:
FOAF is, quite frankly, an ugly mess. This, based on my experience of
trying to code to extract useful information out of it rather than just
an opinion I pulled out of the air. I spent way
that the hCard matches to the XFN, particularly if the
XFN is not embedded within the hCard?
I take your chances ;-) Good point though.
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(special thanks to
David Janes). Following that is a list of social networks that use
FOAF.
Also is a sample link to a publicly accessible profile in each network
that exhibits the use of XFN (or FOAF).
To see how XFN is being used, type in the link on your browser, in the
browser menu
We just discovered a minute ago there's a place on the wiki for it ;-)
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On Mar 18, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Costello, Roger L. wrote:
Hi Folks,
Below is a list of social networks that use XFN (special thanks to
David Janes
Janes/a (dpjanes)
/div
And various variations. Obviously this is ripe for hCardization, but
is there a defined relationship between a XFN A within a hCard. Should
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David Janes wrote:
But I'm seeing this in a lot of places in this sort of context:
div (per user)
img src=... the user's picture ... / a href=...
rel=contactDavid Janes/a (dpjanes)
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And various variations
BY SOCIAL NETWORKS?
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paging through results, such as here [1]
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Last.fm XFN
last.fm data is available as FOAF also
Entry Author element
Should this be a MUST?
Also in a blog post [3] David Janes suggests that hAtom 0.2 may drop the
author and updated/created requirements. Any idea if/when this will happen?
I'd like to add hAtom to all our episode aggregations [4] on
bbc.co.uk/programmes and authorship
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- I'll be doing the hAtom 0.2 stuff Real Soon Now ;-)
- you can safely assume that the requirement for having the Author
element is going to disappear
by general consensus rarely works out. For instance, the
HTML5 working group has 504 members. How the heck can you get anything
accomplished when you have 504 members?
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[2]
http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ProjectName=ie8whitepapersReleaseId=567
[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/links.html#edef-A
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I have added a few new tags, rel=spouse, rel=colleague on my
WordPress blog I am curious how these get used. I have installed
Operator and Tail Export on Firefox, I can't see anything show up
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| implementing them because of the learning curve.
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They're suggesting that you're much more likely to provide semantic
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The fact that hCard is *the* #1 format for publishing information about a
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declare using microschema.
LINK is only valid inside of HEAD, not BODY so this is invalid (X)HTML [1].
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On 9/10/07, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As Frances mentions, most people just use updated, but if your
underlying CMS knows the difference between the publish date and the
updated date and you want to expose this information, you'd be best to
use both.
Whoops, Frances said published
want to expose this information, you'd be best to
use both.
The peculiarities, such as they are, in this rule come from the
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The first suggests a must and the second a should. It's just a bit
confusing, so any help to iron that out would be fabulous. :)
See the last line of that section [1]; I think
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data tagged so that a machine
can do something with it. Tagging is already a common expression of a
way of labelling content. content being many things, microformats
being a way to tag many things.
So how about tag-aware?
Because microformats are _not_ tags.
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this into the Wiki Ben? This may make a very good
recommendation for hAtom 0.2.
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On Wed, June 27, 2007 3:43 pm, David Janes wrote:
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FYI:
http://www.eu.socialtext.net/hRelease/
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that says it doesn't. Whether one wants
to use this or not is up to the parser. I hasten to add that there's
reason I can see for including the DOM node where entry-title is
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I concur. Time to start ramping up for hAtom 0.2, if I can get some
blocks of free time.
I'm more than willing to help. I have time to spend on it right now.
I'll work on collecting issues to deal
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I thought it did markup! I totally see what you are saying here
though; the question here is whether we include the DOM nodes that
specify entry-content. This isn't in the spec, and you wouldn't
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On 5/31/07, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another option is that entry content is:
p class=entry-contentContent/p
p class=entry-contentMore Content/p
Is there a reason why hAtom
here
though; the question here is whether we include the DOM nodes that
specify entry-content. This isn't in the spec, and you wouldn't want
to do it everywhere (entry-title, for example) but it would make sense
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(concatenation with newline), or
4. something else entirely?
I need to think more about this, though I'm fairly certain the answer
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port of call...
The reason that there has been little discussion is that the rules for
dealing with this are well understood and settled. This document [1]
will give you everything you need -- written in 1995.
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On Apr 16, 2007, at 1:17 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote:
It would be nice, IMO, if the wiki linked to the relevant sections of
the mailing list, IRC logs and influential blog posts for decisions
like this. It would help to explain a lot of the
else can
I use ? hReview ? hAtom ? What?
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applied to, it
would be quite easy to write a KML converter and feed that into Google
Maps/Google Earth.
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inverted:
http://atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/#requiredFeedElements
No, this [1] is what you want to be looking at.
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[1] http://atomenabled.org/developers/syndication/#recommendedEntryElements
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[2] http://microformats.org/wiki/what-are-microformats
[3] http://www.psnetwork.org.nz/blog/2007/02/27/microformats-govt-release/
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yourself a _lot_ of grief.
I'm also to understand that the mailing list microformats-new is for
discussing new microformats, though damned if I can remember ever
getting any mail from there (?)
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[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/process
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applied to same.
Explicitly we use RK's home page as an intermediate pointer link to
another location where the authoritative hCard lives.
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On 2/12/07, Ryan Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:16 AM, David Janes wrote:
On 2/11/07, Ryan Cannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
UID+URL *is* more constraining. Like rel-tag, you're forcing a lot of
assumptions about the documents *surrounding* these URLs--links have
authoritative hCard?
Sorry if this sounds pedantic, I'm not trying to be. There's some
assumption in what you're saying that I'm not getting.
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On 2/8/07, Ben Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 8 Feb 2007, at 19:02, David Janes wrote:
On 2/8/07, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing special is needed at /blog/contact/.
-ryan
But that's the authoritative hCard. […]
Sorry if this sounds pedantic, I'm not trying
to Ryan King)
- It doesn't have a UID, so there's no tracing it back to source
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On 2/8/07, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/8/07, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So as I understand that, the rules for getting the most authoritative
hCard for a given URL are:
1) parse hCard at current URL
2) If the hCard includes a class=uid url, load the URL
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, points to
authoritative hcard
e.g. Ryan King hCards in the wild point to http://www.ryanking.com;
http://www.ryanking.com (somehow) points to
http://www.ryanking.com/contact/ which has his authoritative hCard.
At most one back reference is required.
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