Perhaps we could solve this by changing the value of the abbr title
attribute to a different, widely used date format that is both machine
and date friendly? Take the JS date format, for instance?
On 6/28/08, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fil wrote:
I'm not a great fan of natural
Hi all,
It looks like Microsoft is adopting microformats, if not in a rather
awkward way:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/DevelopersNew.htm#webslices
On one hand, I am thrilled to see hAtom implemented in such an elegant
manner, on the other hand, I am
On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In hCard, should a job title like Head of Marketing be classed as
title or role, or both?
What's the difference?
Off the top of my head:
role = executive
title = Head of Marketing
No?
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On 9/18/07, Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello everyone,
Inspired by Brian's X2V[1] and Drew's presentation Can Your Website
be Your API?[2] I wrote µf parser that transforms any microformatted
web page to XML or JSON. It could be used as an API to any web site
with
Thanks for the comments on the margin-marks concept. I sincerely
appreciate that.
I really like the idea of allowing additional control over
presentation via pseudo-classes, but I am worried that :target isn't
quite right, at least if we follow the spec to the letter
On 9/4/07, Mike Kaply [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think some folks here are missing the point in the
Microformats/Firefox 3 discussion.
We are trying to foster a discussion about what to do with
microformats in Firefox 3, we are not trying to tell you what we are
going to do.
This is a very
To keep the threads clean.. Posting this as a separate message.
http://glazkov.com/blog/margin-marks/
Comments, discussion appreciated.
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FYI, moved to spec:
http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo#Multi-value_Properties
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On 8/2/07, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The description of how to specify multi-valued properties, recorded on
xoxo-faq page seems logical and I think it belongs in the spec. Any
objections if I move
To me, the issue was not about freedom of expression or lack thereof.
It was about putting a damper on a bilious jackass attitude and
behavior. I doubt the actual topic of discussion was in question.
Yeah, we all could probably benefit from a good social behavior class
(ok, I can't _really_ speak
I don't know if there's much interest in XOXO anymore, with sexier new
h* monikers and all, but I seem to have great appreciation for this
simple format.
I am currently trying to understand how to best parse and understand
the meaning of XOXO-ed content, and need some guidance/ideas on
.
On Aug 2, 2007 3:47 PM, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's a good idea. I'll definitely look into existing parsers. I have
located xoxo.rb (http://tinyurl.com/3ygt7e), which should be helpful.
Christian's site seems to be down at the moment.
I see that Hixie raised a similar issue
This is something I just now realized, and while all excited, I
thought I'd send to the list:
When using HTML lists (ul/ol) for representing operand argument lists,
it appears very logical to identify the distinction between ordered
and unordered as that of and and or, respectively.
In other
Sure, I don't see why not?
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Why did you end up not using standard address output?
I think that's probably at the core of the issue. If you have a
separate page with an hCard that's only used to convert to .vcf, the
why not just use vcf is a valid question.
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Erica,
What type of error are you getting?
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On 8/5/06, Erica Douglass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator
Broken in IE7 -- gives Javascript error. :(
-Erica
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I am in a similar situation to Sebastian's, although Germany is a bit
farther than Alabama (you know what they say, Georgia is Alabama's
Germany).
I, too, am working (though lapsed in a few last weeks) on an
XFN/hCard/citation module for TinyMCE, which is what Wordpress is
using. I haven't
is used with a
URL -- the link to the actual event page. Maybe that could be another
implicit UID?
What are your thoughts on this, folks?
:DG
On 7/3/06, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I read the spec correctly, yes, UID is required for the VEVENT
component, which means that UID
Interesting. It seems that VERSION: 2.0 in an iCal export result
makes MS Outlook 2003 fail to import an event, and throw up a somewhat
insane error message about Lunar vs. Gregorian calendar:
This error can appear if you have attempted to save a recurring Lunar
appointment in iCalendar format.
On 7/3/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to the RFC 4.8.4.7 Unique Identifier, the only to requirements
are:
1) Value Type: TEXT
2) Globally Unique
Any URL fits the TEXT requirement. As for globally unique, all URL only
resolve to a single location, so that makes it globally
On 7/3/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example,
http://events.example.com/#123
would become
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Why not just keep it as is, http://events.example.com/#123?
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document URL
and use it as UID
* otherwise, don't specify UID.
:DG
On 7/3/06, David Janes -- BlogMatrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
On 7/3/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For example,
http://events.example.com/#123
would become
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Why not just
Indeed!
On 7/3/06, David Janes -- BlogMatrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
Sorry about that! :) But.. isn't that beside the point?
Orthogonal!
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http
for
people to be able to update the event...
Marko Mrdjenovic
Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
Sorry about that! :) But.. isn't that beside the point?
The implied UID algorithm could be as follows:
* if UID is specified, use it
* otherwise, if id attribute is specified, construct full URL with
fragment
/ location / organizer / priority /
dtstamp / seq / status / summary / transp /
uid / url / recurid /
-brian
Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
Sorry about that! :) But.. isn't that beside the point?
The implied UID algorithm could be as follows:
* if UID is specified, use
Phone comes through just fine in Outlook 2003.
:DG
On 6/27/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Bryson wrote:
brian suda wrote:
Another option for encoding these type values is on the abbr element.
abbr class=type title=workNorwegian word for work here/abbr
Ah, I was wondering how
On 6/23/06, Drew McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One proposal would be to introduce a very simple pattern for groups
of hCards - just like groups in address book programs (friends,
family, collegues etc). In XHTML we already have a mechanism of
grouping elements - the class attribute. So how
I guess my question is: what's wrong with the way it works now?
:DG
On 6/22/06, Sam Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Remi
My take on it is this - Tantek and others started this idea but as it grows
up (its 1 years old) it should be handed over to some standards body.
Tantek due to his
Chris,
How about this:
* look for hentry
* if found, traverse ancestors to see if there's an hfeed
** if found, add hfeed to list of feeds
** otherwise, add page to list of feeds, stop looking for hfeeds
* repeat
:DG
On 6/20/06, Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Let me continue my
Can't do that without involving server side. Cross-domain security will getcha.
:DG
On 6/7/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be interesting to extend your highlighter script to actually
grab the linked page via an AJAX request and look for hcards... Here's
an idea for your
Yay! Picoformats live!
:DG
On 6/6/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, you knew it had to happen, but we're getting smaller. After
discussing this idea with Tantek and receiving his blessing, I would
like to begin pursiing Picoformats in the context of the microformats
wiki, as we
Folks,
Anybody have a magic wand to wave and tell me some stats on how many
higher education institutions are currently indexed by the search
(.edu domain?).
I see that Capital University (yay us!) is in and I was able to locate
University of Michigan's personnel search, but maybe there are
I think we're all set.
One thing to add. Raines pointed me to a separate event going on at
the same time 4 miles away: http://upcoming.org/event/80332/
He suggested merging them. I don't know how or whether it's a good
idea (you know, the focus thing), but I promised I'll post it here.
:DG
On
Soo... Wednesday night, 7:00pm, at... where?
Crepes The Microformats Foundry on Cole?
Ritual Big things start here Coffee?
Some other place?
:DG
On 5/25/06, Stephen Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think I can do it as well... a little later is better for me.
Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
On 5
... Obviously I'd like to attend both, but
that notwithstanding, maybe wed would be better (thurs is coworking
meetup)?
Chris
On 5/24/06, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am going to throw a date on a table next Microformats dinner:
Tuesday, May 30, 7:00pm.
http://upcoming.org/event
So, this is like W3 Selectors for URLs?
:DG
On 5/25/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 25, 2006, at 3:04 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
how do we create URIs for partial bits of data like a word
or hcard in the middle of a paragraph?
On 5/25/06, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For a microformats dinner, how about:
Wednesday night
San Francisco
Start time:6pm? later?
I am game. Folks?
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I am going to throw a date on a table next Microformats dinner:
Tuesday, May 30, 7:00pm.
http://upcoming.org/event/80636
But where in Bay Area? I will be in Santa Clara, but can drive pretty
much anywhere within a couple of hours. Any favorites?
:DG
Is this worthy of mentioning on the wiki events?
http://www.ipsaonline.org/
Let me know and I'll throw it up there.
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Is anybody is going to NetSquared next week? I see that Chris and
Tantek are coming. Maybe we could put together during one of the Make
It Happen! slots on Wednesday.
http://netsquared.org/conference-make-it-happen
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I've been slowly chipping away at the implementation of XFN builder in
TinyMCE, which is the rich text editor for Wordpress and other
blogging/CMS tools.
Somewhere along the way an odd thought occured -- it seems that XFN
and hCard are closely related. XFN describes relationship of a person,
Scott, I wouldn't be so sure.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/behaviors/library/calendar/calendar.asp
Take a look at the example at the bottom. In my pre-semantic markup
days, I've used CSS to style xml (namespaces and all) tags quite a
bit.
:DG
On 4/27/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL
My mistake. Apparently it's just namedspaced attributes that IE
doesn't support. At least that's what I see when I try this test in
IE6:
http://lyceum.open.ac.uk/temp/cssns.html
Or is there a workaround for this too?
Nope (or yep, if you don't mind using JS). But not because of the
Ryan produced, I extrapolated:
Semantic markup is the long tail of microformats.
Short and to the point. I like it.
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Are you guys talking about something like this, except in HTML?
http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/docs/en/protocol.html
:DG
On 3/24/06, Phil Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
People do read Microformat content directly which I understand. It fits
with the Human First principle.
But
A friend had asked me a question to which, alas, I don't have a good
answer. How does one search this list's archives? There doesn't seem
to be an easy way to do it apart from downloading each month into one
folder type of thing. Anybody care to share their tips, tricks, and
obviously missed
Gilman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 4:03 PM -0600 3/22/06, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
I am going to try and put together a Microformats for Dummies
presentation
[...]
Any good pointers are appreciated.
Do demo the hCard -- vCard bot.
Anyway, that is for me the most memorable killer
example.
:DG
On 3/22/06, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I covered a good deal of basics at webzine: http://theryanking.com/
presentations/2005/webzine/.
-rk
On Mar 22, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote:
== Oops -- I sent it to the wrong (microformats-rest) group. Damn you
While we're rolling here, can I timidly take offense with the
address requirement for author optimization?
On that blog post from http://fuzzycontent.com (see nearby thread), I
concocted an example which quickly turned out to be invalid, because
of this issue.
See, I wanted to create an embedded
Fellas,
I wrote a post with an itsy-bitsy dose of hAtom in it:
http://fuzzycontent.com/index.php/2006/03/14/context-wants-to-be-free-too/
I can't get any of the listed tools to validate it, though. Can you
lend me a hand with your expertize and tell me if I am doing something
wrong?
:DG
I think vCard has nearest-in-parent optimization. So, IMHO, no, it doesn't:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Author
Also, I think Nearest in Parent algorithm probably should be called
First Ancestor With?
:DG
On 3/14/06, Mark Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David,
Just in case people didn't say this enough: this hAtom thing is
tremendous. I am working on implementing it at a client's site and I
am enjoying the quality of the spec and the level of thought that went
into it.
Now, try to fit that head into a doorway :)
:DG
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