Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats and RDFa not as far apart as previously thought

2008-06-28 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Perhaps we could solve this by changing the value of the abbr title attribute to a different, widely used date format that is both machine and date friendly? Take the JS date format, for instance? On 6/28/08, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fil wrote: I'm not a great fan of natural

[uf-discuss] IE8 + hAtom = hSlice

2008-03-05 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Hi all, It looks like Microsoft is adopting microformats, if not in a rather awkward way: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/ie8/readiness/DevelopersNew.htm#webslices On one hand, I am thrilled to see hAtom implemented in such an elegant manner, on the other hand, I am

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard: title or role

2007-09-20 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 9/20/07, Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In hCard, should a job title like Head of Marketing be classed as title or role, or both? What's the difference? Off the top of my head: role = executive title = Head of Marketing No? :DG ___

Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-19 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 9/18/07, Dmitry Baranovskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, Inspired by Brian's X2V[1] and Drew's presentation Can Your Website be Your API?[2] I wrote µf parser that transforms any microformatted web page to XML or JSON. It could be used as an API to any web site with

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats and Firefox 3

2007-09-05 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Thanks for the comments on the margin-marks concept. I sincerely appreciate that. I really like the idea of allowing additional control over presentation via pseudo-classes, but I am worried that :target isn't quite right, at least if we follow the spec to the letter

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats and Firefox 3

2007-09-04 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 9/4/07, Mike Kaply [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think some folks here are missing the point in the Microformats/Firefox 3 discussion. We are trying to foster a discussion about what to do with microformats in Firefox 3, we are not trying to tell you what we are going to do. This is a very

[uf-discuss] Margin Marks UI Concept, was: Microformats and Firefox 3

2007-09-04 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
To keep the threads clean.. Posting this as a separate message. http://glazkov.com/blog/margin-marks/ Comments, discussion appreciated. :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

[uf-discuss] Re: XOXO multi-valued property notation

2007-08-07 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
FYI, moved to spec: http://microformats.org/wiki/xoxo#Multi-value_Properties :DG On 8/2/07, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The description of how to specify multi-valued properties, recorded on xoxo-faq page seems logical and I think it belongs in the spec. Any objections if I move

Re: [uf-discuss] inappropriate behaviour (was: Discussion of public domain declaration template usage)

2007-08-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
To me, the issue was not about freedom of expression or lack thereof. It was about putting a damper on a bilious jackass attitude and behavior. I doubt the actual topic of discussion was in question. Yeah, we all could probably benefit from a good social behavior class (ok, I can't _really_ speak

[uf-discuss] XOXO Special Properties

2007-08-02 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I don't know if there's much interest in XOXO anymore, with sexier new h* monikers and all, but I seem to have great appreciation for this simple format. I am currently trying to understand how to best parse and understand the meaning of XOXO-ed content, and need some guidance/ideas on

[uf-discuss] Re: XOXO Special Properties

2007-08-02 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
. On Aug 2, 2007 3:47 PM, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a good idea. I'll definitely look into existing parsers. I have located xoxo.rb (http://tinyurl.com/3ygt7e), which should be helpful. Christian's site seems to be down at the moment. I see that Hixie raised a similar issue

[uf-discuss] Semanticizin': Significance of order in argument lists

2006-10-27 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
This is something I just now realized, and while all excited, I thought I'd send to the list: When using HTML lists (ul/ol) for representing operand argument lists, it appears very logical to identify the distinction between ordered and unordered as that of and and or, respectively. In other

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats' vector logo

2006-09-13 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Sure, I don't see why not? :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard vs. vcf

2006-08-31 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Why did you end up not using standard address output? I think that's probably at the core of the issue. If you have a separate page with an hCard that's only used to convert to .vcf, the why not just use vcf is a valid question. :DG ___

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar creator broken in IE7

2006-08-07 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Erica, What type of error are you getting? :DG On 8/5/06, Erica Douglass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator Broken in IE7 -- gives Javascript error. :( -Erica ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: WordCamp (was Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hCard and vCard)

2006-08-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I am in a similar situation to Sebastian's, although Germany is a bit farther than Alabama (you know what they say, Georgia is Alabama's Germany). I, too, am working (though lapsed in a few last weeks) on an XFN/hCard/citation module for TinyMCE, which is what Wordpress is using. I haven't

Re: [uf-discuss] UID in iCalendar

2006-07-05 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
is used with a URL -- the link to the actual event page. Maybe that could be another implicit UID? What are your thoughts on this, folks? :DG On 7/3/06, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I read the spec correctly, yes, UID is required for the VEVENT component, which means that UID

[uf-discuss] X2V, technorati.com/events/, and MS Outlook 2003

2006-07-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Interesting. It seems that VERSION: 2.0 in an iCal export result makes MS Outlook 2003 fail to import an event, and throw up a somewhat insane error message about Lunar vs. Gregorian calendar: This error can appear if you have attempted to save a recurring Lunar appointment in iCalendar format.

Re: [uf-discuss] UID in iCalendar

2006-07-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 7/3/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the RFC 4.8.4.7 Unique Identifier, the only to requirements are: 1) Value Type: TEXT 2) Globally Unique Any URL fits the TEXT requirement. As for globally unique, all URL only resolve to a single location, so that makes it globally

Re: [uf-discuss] UID in iCalendar

2006-07-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 7/3/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, http://events.example.com/#123 would become [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not just keep it as is, http://events.example.com/#123? :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] UID in iCalendar

2006-07-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
document URL and use it as UID * otherwise, don't specify UID. :DG On 7/3/06, David Janes -- BlogMatrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dimitri Glazkov wrote: On 7/3/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, http://events.example.com/#123 would become [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why not just

Re: [uf-discuss] UID in iCalendar

2006-07-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Indeed! On 7/3/06, David Janes -- BlogMatrix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Sorry about that! :) But.. isn't that beside the point? Orthogonal! :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http

Re: [uf-discuss] UID in iCalendar

2006-07-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
for people to be able to update the event... Marko Mrdjenovic Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Sorry about that! :) But.. isn't that beside the point? The implied UID algorithm could be as follows: * if UID is specified, use it * otherwise, if id attribute is specified, construct full URL with fragment

Re: [uf-discuss] UID in iCalendar

2006-07-03 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
/ location / organizer / priority / dtstamp / seq / status / summary / transp / uid / url / recurid / -brian Dimitri Glazkov wrote: Sorry about that! :) But.. isn't that beside the point? The implied UID algorithm could be as follows: * if UID is specified, use

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Outlook doesn't import phonenumbers?

2006-06-27 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Phone comes through just fine in Outlook 2003. :DG On 6/27/06, brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Bryson wrote: brian suda wrote: Another option for encoding these type values is on the abbr element. abbr class=type title=workNorwegian word for work here/abbr Ah, I was wondering how

Re: [uf-discuss] permalinks for microformat chunks of pages: use the 'id' attribute on root microformat elements

2006-06-23 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 6/23/06, Drew McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One proposal would be to introduce a very simple pattern for groups of hCards - just like groups in address book programs (friends, family, collegues etc). In XHTML we already have a mechanism of grouping elements - the class attribute. So how

Re: [uf-discuss] Very basic question that is not in the FAQ

2006-06-22 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I guess my question is: what's wrong with the way it works now? :DG On 6/22/06, Sam Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Remi My take on it is this - Tantek and others started this idea but as it grows up (its 1 years old) it should be handed over to some standards body. Tantek due to his

Re: [uf-discuss] more hatom rambling - detection

2006-06-21 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Chris, How about this: * look for hentry * if found, traverse ancestors to see if there's an hfeed ** if found, add hfeed to list of feeds ** otherwise, add page to list of feeds, stop looking for hfeeds * repeat :DG On 6/20/06, Chris Casciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me continue my

Re: [uf-discuss] ContactCard DHTML Contact Info

2006-06-07 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Can't do that without involving server side. Cross-domain security will getcha. :DG On 6/7/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be interesting to extend your highlighter script to actually grab the linked page via an AJAX request and look for hcards... Here's an idea for your

Re: [uf-discuss] PicoFormats

2006-06-06 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Yay! Picoformats live! :DG On 6/6/06, Chris Messina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, you knew it had to happen, but we're getting smaller. After discussing this idea with Tantek and receiving his blessing, I would like to begin pursiing Picoformats in the context of the microformats wiki, as we

[uf-discuss] Microformats search and higher education

2006-06-05 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Folks, Anybody have a magic wand to wave and tell me some stats on how many higher education institutions are currently indexed by the search (.edu domain?). I see that Capital University (yay us!) is in and I was able to locate University of Michigan's personnel search, but maybe there are

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hDinner

2006-05-31 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I think we're all set. One thing to add. Raines pointed me to a separate event going on at the same time 4 miles away: http://upcoming.org/event/80332/ He suggested merging them. I don't know how or whether it's a good idea (you know, the focus thing), but I promised I'll post it here. :DG On

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hDinner

2006-05-30 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Soo... Wednesday night, 7:00pm, at... where? Crepes The Microformats Foundry on Cole? Ritual Big things start here Coffee? Some other place? :DG On 5/25/06, Stephen Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I can do it as well... a little later is better for me. Dimitri Glazkov wrote: On 5

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hDinner

2006-05-25 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
... Obviously I'd like to attend both, but that notwithstanding, maybe wed would be better (thurs is coworking meetup)? Chris On 5/24/06, Dimitri Glazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to throw a date on a table next Microformats dinner: Tuesday, May 30, 7:00pm. http://upcoming.org/event

Re: [uf-discuss] Addressing bits of information

2006-05-25 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
So, this is like W3 Selectors for URLs? :DG On 5/25/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 25, 2006, at 3:04 AM, Chris Messina wrote: how do we create URIs for partial bits of data like a word or hcard in the middle of a paragraph?

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hDinner

2006-05-25 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
On 5/25/06, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a microformats dinner, how about: Wednesday night San Francisco Start time:6pm? later? I am game. Folks? :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

[uf-discuss] hDinner

2006-05-24 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I am going to throw a date on a table next Microformats dinner: Tuesday, May 30, 7:00pm. http://upcoming.org/event/80636 But where in Bay Area? I will be in Santa Clara, but can drive pretty much anywhere within a couple of hours. Any favorites? :DG

[uf-discuss] Microformats talk at Internet Professionals Association of Alabama

2006-05-24 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Is this worthy of mentioning on the wiki events? http://www.ipsaonline.org/ Let me know and I'll throw it up there. :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

[uf-discuss] Microformatters at NetSquared

2006-05-22 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Is anybody is going to NetSquared next week? I see that Chris and Tantek are coming. Maybe we could put together during one of the Make It Happen! slots on Wednesday. http://netsquared.org/conference-make-it-happen :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing

[uf-discuss] Relationship between XFN and hCard

2006-05-15 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I've been slowly chipping away at the implementation of XFN builder in TinyMCE, which is the rich text editor for Wordpress and other blogging/CMS tools. Somewhere along the way an odd thought occured -- it seems that XFN and hCard are closely related. XFN describes relationship of a person,

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML

2006-04-27 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Scott, I wouldn't be so sure. http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/behaviors/library/calendar/calendar.asp Take a look at the example at the bottom. In my pre-semantic markup days, I've used CSS to style xml (namespaces and all) tags quite a bit. :DG On 4/27/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats vs XML

2006-04-27 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
My mistake. Apparently it's just namedspaced attributes that IE doesn't support. At least that's what I see when I try this test in IE6: http://lyceum.open.ac.uk/temp/cssns.html Or is there a workaround for this too? Nope (or yep, if you don't mind using JS). But not because of the

Re: [uf-discuss] Format-of-Formats?

2006-03-30 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Ryan produced, I extrapolated: Semantic markup is the long tail of microformats. Short and to the point. I like it. :DG ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

Re: [uf-discuss] Enumerating Microformats on a Page

2006-03-24 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Are you guys talking about something like this, except in HTML? http://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/docs/en/protocol.html :DG On 3/24/06, Phil Haack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People do read Microformat content directly which I understand. It fits with the Human First principle. But

[uf-discuss] Searching email archives...

2006-03-23 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
A friend had asked me a question to which, alas, I don't have a good answer. How does one search this list's archives? There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do it apart from downloading each month into one folder type of thing. Anybody care to share their tips, tricks, and obviously missed

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats for Dummies

2006-03-22 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Gilman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4:03 PM -0600 3/22/06, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: I am going to try and put together a Microformats for Dummies presentation [...] Any good pointers are appreciated. Do demo the hCard -- vCard bot. Anyway, that is for me the most memorable killer

Re: [uf-discuss] Fwd: Microformats for Dummies presentations/talks/slides/points

2006-03-22 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
example. :DG On 3/22/06, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I covered a good deal of basics at webzine: http://theryanking.com/ presentations/2005/webzine/. -rk On Mar 22, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Dimitri Glazkov wrote: == Oops -- I sent it to the wrong (microformats-rest) group. Damn you

Re: [uf-discuss] What to do when a microformat doesn't quite fit?

2006-03-21 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
While we're rolling here, can I timidly take offense with the address requirement for author optimization? On that blog post from http://fuzzycontent.com (see nearby thread), I concocted an example which quickly turned out to be invalid, because of this issue. See, I wanted to create an embedded

[uf-discuss] hAtom look-see

2006-03-14 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
Fellas, I wrote a post with an itsy-bitsy dose of hAtom in it: http://fuzzycontent.com/index.php/2006/03/14/context-wants-to-be-free-too/ I can't get any of the listed tools to validate it, though. Can you lend me a hand with your expertize and tell me if I am doing something wrong? :DG

Re: [uf-discuss] Experimental implementation of hAtom on diveintomark.org

2006-03-14 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
I think vCard has nearest-in-parent optimization. So, IMHO, no, it doesn't: http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom#Entry_Author Also, I think Nearest in Parent algorithm probably should be called First Ancestor With? :DG On 3/14/06, Mark Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom draft

2005-12-06 Thread Dimitri Glazkov
David, Just in case people didn't say this enough: this hAtom thing is tremendous. I am working on implementing it at a client's site and I am enjoying the quality of the spec and the level of thought that went into it. Now, try to fit that head into a doorway :) :DG