Re: gphoto2/gtkam segmentation fault on i386-current

2005-09-27 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Andreas Bihlmaier wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 10:29:37AM +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: report, including all details. -Otto I would file a bug report, if you tell me what more information I could give than I already did? It worked until a week ago (I

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Szechuan Death
Theo de Raadt wrote: Wow, free advice as to how I can spend my time. Aren't you kind? Want some advice from me? Yes, I _am_ full of grandmotherly kindness, as well as invariably excellent advice. It is well that you realize this. In this instance, that advice was Do not spurn good ideas,

Re: PostgreSQL/other DBs and OpenBSD?

2005-09-27 Thread Szechuan Death
David Hill wrote: If you want PostgreSQL, install it from the ports tree. What is wrong with dump/restore and using tar for a backup solution? Thank you, I am well aware of the fact that it can be installed from the ports tree. Going back and _reading_ the original post, we find that

Re: is there a way to block sshd trolling?

2005-09-27 Thread Joakim Aronius
I second that. Blocking ssh access from Linux hosts removes 95% of these attacks. Simple and effective. block drop in log quick on $ext_if proto { tcp, udp } from any os Linux to any port ssh label Block ssh from Linux hosts /jkm * Nick Ryan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You could use pf to

Re: PostgreSQL/other DBs and OpenBSD?

2005-09-27 Thread Szechuan Death
Chris Kuethe wrote: I was just about to say SQLite. From their web page: Sources are in the public domain. Use for any purpose. see http://www.sqlite.org/copyright.html SQLite might be easier, indeed. I don't think the actual requirement is for any particular server, although I note that

Protecting directory of Apache hosted website with SSL?

2005-09-27 Thread Luke Fogarty
Hi all I have a basic webpage running on Apache 1.3, I have setup the site with the needed CA's etc and can run the whole webpage under HTTPS/Secure, but I only want to use HTTPS/SSL for /cgi-bin/ I'm happy for the rest to run over normal HTTP. How is this done?

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Johan P . Lindström
On 9/26/05, Bryan Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, i was looking at the Promise SATA 150TX4 and i have not yet been able to find what chip that controller uses. Any suggestions on what controller card i should get? Good luck with Promise. I went through this a while back, and

Re: Protecting directory of Apache hosted website with SSL?

2005-09-27 Thread eric
On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 17:01:44 +1000, Luke Fogarty proclaimed... I have a basic webpage running on Apache 1.3, I have setup the site with the needed CA's etc and can run the whole webpage under HTTPS/Secure, but I only want to use HTTPS/SSL for /cgi-bin/ I'm happy for the rest to run over

Re: em/carp switches slower than fxp/carp [SOLVED]

2005-09-27 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
Hello Jason, Jason Ackley wrote: Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: I guess the general problem here is two machines appear with one mac address at the same time on both switches, right? How can one solve that? You may also want to make sure that the port is in STP 'portfast' mode or whatever

disk is full

2005-09-27 Thread Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar
Few days ago I installed new OBSD system, which has /, /var and /usr. Today I found out that /usr is not mounted and all the /usr stuffs installed in /. When I tried to extract src.tar.gz something was wrong. I have /dev/wd0d, which is not used and free. Mounted it as /usr1 and copied all the

OpenBSD Hardware Sales

2005-09-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:37:48 -0600, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every release, more people download OpenBSD and fewer people buy OpenBSD. But the solution is not to make OpenBSD developers web businessmen. That is a road to slower development. The solution is not to complain

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Jason Dixon
On Sep 27, 2005, at 2:01 AM, Szechuan Death wrote: Yes, I _am_ full of grandmotherly kindness, as well as invariably excellent advice. It is well that you realize this. In this instance, that advice was Do not spurn good ideas, Do not whine about your users not buying CDs if you're in the

Re: disk is full

2005-09-27 Thread Alexander Hall
Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: Few days ago I installed new OBSD system, which has /, /var and /usr. Today I found out that /usr is not mounted and all the /usr stuffs installed in /. When I tried to extract src.tar.gz something was wrong. I have /dev/wd0d, which is not used and free. Mounted it

Re: disk is full

2005-09-27 Thread Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar
Alexander Hall wrote: Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: Few days ago I installed new OBSD system, which has /, /var and /usr. Today I found out that /usr is not mounted and all the /usr stuffs installed in /. When I tried to extract src.tar.gz something was wrong. I have /dev/wd0d, which is not

squid with ssl support

2005-09-27 Thread Florian
Good morning When I installed squid from the ports, and tried to use the https_port option, I get a Failed to acquire SSL certificate: error:0200100E:system library:fopen:Bad address Anyone an idea how to solve ? OpenBSD 3.7 Squid 2.5 STABLE 9 Thanks

Re: disk is full

2005-09-27 Thread Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar
Alexander Hall wrote: Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: Alexander Hall wrote: Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: Few days ago I installed new OBSD system, which has /, /var and /usr. Today I found out that /usr is not mounted and all the /usr stuffs installed in /. When I tried to extract src.tar.gz

Re: disk is full

2005-09-27 Thread Alexander Hall
Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: Alexander Hall wrote: Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: Few days ago I installed new OBSD system, which has /, /var and /usr. Today I found out that /usr is not mounted and all the /usr stuffs installed in /. When I tried to extract src.tar.gz something was wrong. I

Re: disk is full

2005-09-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 27 September 2005 19:44 +0900, Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar wrote: I did # cd /usr # cp -i * /usr1 Something wrong? This doesn't copy permissions. A command like pax(1) or cpio(1) is good at preserving these. After reboot I can login as my non-root account and also with root account. But I

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Alexander Farber
Theo's reply was good :-) and you're just doing blah-blah here. The blah-blah about the integrated d/b was waste of time too. Why don't you shut up and implement your ideas yourself? On 9/27/05, Szechuan Death [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: Wow, free advice as to how I can

Re: OpenBSD Hardware Sales

2005-09-27 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 27 September 2005 03:04 -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: (an idiot who bought a MegaRAID ATA 133-2 thinking it would work with OpenBSD since MegaRAID was listed as supported) The new http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#38 suggests it works too, and ami(4) and 'supported hardware' lists don't

Re: OpenBSD Hardware Sales

2005-09-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 13:19:05 +0100, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On 27 September 2005 03:04 -0700, J.C. Roberts wrote: (an idiot who bought a MegaRAID ATA 133-2 thinking it would work with OpenBSD since MegaRAID was listed as supported) The new

httpd.conf, allow from lu can't get it to work

2005-09-27 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi, (obsd3.7-stable) I'm trying to use an allow directive with a partial domain name: Here is directive from my httpd.conf: Directory /var/www/htdocs/download DAV On SSLRequireSSL Options Indexes AllowOverride None AuthType Basic AuthName Restricted

3.7, wrong dependecies for package pear-DB-1.6.8?

2005-09-27 Thread Dimitar Kodjabachev
I am trying to install the package pear-DB-1.6.8 on a 3.7 box (i386). According to pear.php.net, PEAR DB 1.6.8 requires PHP version 4.2.0 or newer, but the OpenBSD package has a @depend www/php5/core,-pear:php5-pear-5.0.*:php5-pear-5.0.3p line in the +CONTENTS file and so it refuses to work with

Re: httpd.conf, allow from lu can't get it to work

2005-09-27 Thread Didier Wiroth
Hi, Yes I use the chrooted version. Hmm ... but it works correctly when omitting the deny directive. The default httpd.conf has for example: Directory /var/www/htdocs I think my directory entry is correct, or isn't it? -Original Message- From: Marc Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PostgreSQL/other DBs and OpenBSD?

2005-09-27 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Monday, September 26, Szechuan Death wrote: What is wrong with dump/restore/tar is that nobody running a network larger than two computers uses it. Yes, I'm sure you can make it work with plenty of Perl scripting, some clever use of cron and ssh, and plenty of disk space. Nobody in

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Monday 26 September 2005 20:10, you wrote: Try this one out for size, I can vouch that it's super http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/sata_150_4.html Brandon Is there an LSI SATA card that doesn't have RAID and works with OpenBSD? I don't want RAID support, so buying an expensive ($216

Re: 3.7, wrong dependecies for package pear-DB-1.6.8?

2005-09-27 Thread John Wright
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 03:23:41PM +0300, Dimitar Kodjabachev wrote: I am trying to install the package pear-DB-1.6.8 on a 3.7 box (i386). According to pear.php.net, PEAR DB 1.6.8 requires PHP version 4.2.0 or newer, but the OpenBSD package has a @depend

Systrace on chroot, Segmentation fault

2005-09-27 Thread Joost Tr
Is it possible to run systrace on chroot? I get a segmentation fault. On OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC), Sep 23 2005, i386. $ su # chroot -u root / /bin/sh # exit This works. # systrace -a chroot -u root / /bin/sh Segmentation fault (core dumped) This does not.

commands with redirection evaluating differently when set -o xtrace

2005-09-27 Thread jared r r spiegel
trying to debug some crappy script of mine, noticed what seems to be an instance of setting xtrace changing the way the script runs. -current snapshots from openbsd.rt.fm on sep.22 OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC) #152: Thu Sep 22 13:31:38 MDT 2005 [EMAIL

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Brandon Mercer
Daniel A. Ramaley wrote: On Monday 26 September 2005 20:10, you wrote: Try this one out for size, I can vouch that it's super http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/sata_150_4.html Brandon Is there an LSI SATA card that doesn't have RAID and works with OpenBSD? I don't want RAID

Re: Systrace on chroot, Segmentation fault

2005-09-27 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Joost Tr wrote: Is it possible to run systrace on chroot? I get a segmentation fault. On OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC), Sep 23 2005, i386. $ su # chroot -u root / /bin/sh # exit This works. # systrace -a chroot -u root / /bin/sh Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Re: Systrace on chroot, Segmentation fault

2005-09-27 Thread Okan Demirmen
On Tue 2005.09.27 at 12:22 +, Joost Tr wrote: Is it possible to run systrace on chroot? I get a segmentation fault. On OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC), Sep 23 2005, i386. $ su # chroot -u root / /bin/sh # exit This works. # systrace -a chroot -u root / /bin/sh Segmentation fault

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:42:47AM -0500, Daniel A. Ramaley wrote: On Monday 26 September 2005 20:10, you wrote: Try this one out for size, I can vouch that it's super http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/sata_150_4.html Brandon Is there an LSI SATA card that doesn't have RAID and

Re: commands with redirection evaluating differently when set -o xtrace

2005-09-27 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, jared r r spiegel wrote: trying to debug some crappy script of mine, noticed what seems to be an instance of setting xtrace changing the way the script runs. -current snapshots from openbsd.rt.fm on sep.22 OpenBSD 3.8-current (GENERIC) #152: Thu Sep 22 13:31:38

using rpm after redhat_base pkg_add

2005-09-27 Thread Zeigler White II
I successfully added the redhat_ base package, but now I'm having a problem using the rpm command. I am trying to rpm the file jdk-1_5_0_05- linux-i586.rpm in /usr/jdk (I have already chmod ed to be able to execute the file, and I uncommented the linux_emul=1 line in sysctl.conf) but when I try to

Re: OpenBSD Hardware Sales

2005-09-27 Thread Bill
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:04:19 -0700 J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:37:48 -0600, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every release, more people download OpenBSD and fewer people buy OpenBSD. But the solution is not to make OpenBSD developers web

Re: PostgreSQL/other DBs and OpenBSD?

2005-09-27 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Tobias Weingartner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, September 26, Szechuan Death wrote: Again, looking at the original post, the database seemed to me to be part and parcel of this, for efficiency reasons. As you might be aware, you can't have a dependency outside the src/ tree;

OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
The OpenBSD 3.8 song is now available, at http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#38 Many wonderful new things have made it into OpenBSD 3.8, but we wanted to focus on one particular thing -- our support for native free-software RAID management on at least one brand of RAID card, those made

Re: iTunes5 support for mt-daapd

2005-09-27 Thread Arnaud Bergeron
On 9/22/05, Jonathan Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 11:48:15AM -0700, James Wright wrote: based on the patch at http://nightlies.mt-daapd.org/, patch-daap_c goes into /usr/ports/audio/mt-daapd/patches and patch-Makefile to be applied in /usr/ports/audio/mt-daapd (just

Egress filtering on PF

2005-09-27 Thread Joe S
Is it better to apply egress filtering rules on the internal interface of the firewall or the external interface? A snippet of my rules look like this right now: (I'm filtering on both interfaces) pass in quick on $int_if inet proto tcp from $int_if:network to any port $tcp_ports modulate

Re: Systrace on chroot, Segmentation fault

2005-09-27 Thread Joost Tr
Probably the program gets killed because your polciy denies everything. Yep, it did deny everything :) you probably want -A first, or at least some policy. With -A instead of -a i get what i was aiming for. thanks ! From: Okan Demirmen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject:

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread Bill
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:25:14 -0600 Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OpenBSD 3.8 song is now available, at http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html#38 Many wonderful new things have made it into OpenBSD 3.8, but we wanted to focus on one particular thing -- our support for native

Re: csh auto-completion

2005-09-27 Thread Francisco Valladolid
Install tcsh from the /usr/ports/shells/tcsh it have the same functionality that csh , but include tab completion and command line editing. Regards. On 9/26/05, Dulmandakh Sukhbaatar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I installed new OBSD box as proxy server and test server. But I don't want to type

Re: OpenBSD Hardware Sales

2005-09-27 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:26:08 -0400, Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 03:04:19 -0700 J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:37:48 -0600, Theo de Raadt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every release, more people download OpenBSD and fewer people buy

Need Opteron Motherboard Help - Supermicro?

2005-09-27 Thread Mike
Hi All, Anyone here using one of the Supermicro AMD 8131-based motherboards on their OBSD system? If these are unsuitable for OpenBSD, then what AMD64 or Opteron motherboards are the current cream of the crop that do work well with OpenBSD? Thanks in advance, Mike

Re: using rpm after redhat_base pkg_add

2005-09-27 Thread Alexander Farber
I believe you have to use rpm2cpio blah.rpm | cpio -iv because there is no real rpm d/b on OpenBSD On 9/27/05, Zeigler White II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I successfully added the redhat_ base package, but now I'm having a problem using the rpm command. I am trying to rpm the file jdk-1_5_0_05-

Re: Egress filtering on PF

2005-09-27 Thread Christopher Hylarides
There is uneeded duplication in your setup. If all your box is doing is acting as a firewall, then you're modifying the states twice with modulate state. The primary use of modulate state is to re-generate the sequence numbers to protect weak hosts behind your firewall. You don't (or shouldn't)

make build fails

2005-09-27 Thread Jörg Horchler
Hi all, I installed OpenBSD 3.7 via cd37.iso and HTTP. Now I want to build a new release. I checked out the source code via 'cvs co -P -rOPENBSD_3_7 src'. Then I did what is written in 'man release'. (Build a new kernel etc.) But when I do a 'make build' it fails with ===

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread John Brahy
I totally love the idea but it's not a song. The skit was great but I was really hoping to blast some music everything I got a error from my raid array because of this problem. It should be a good punk rock song! How about God Save the RAID? God save the RAID her fascist regime Share the

Re: make build fails

2005-09-27 Thread Tobias Weingartner
On Tuesday, September 27, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rg_Horchler?= wrote: I installed OpenBSD 3.7 via cd37.iso and HTTP. Now I want to build a new release. I checked out the source code via 'cvs co -P -rOPENBSD_3_7 src'. Then I did what is written in 'man release'. (Build a new kernel etc.) But

brconfig: documentation bug? ease-of-use tweak? or luser wanting too much handholding?

2005-09-27 Thread Stefek Zaba
Just revived an aging laptop (details at end) for occasional use as a logging/filtering bridge. Went through the brconfig man page once I had two NICs in the box. man brconfig has in its Examples section (in both 3.7 and Current) the encouraging text Create a bridge pseudo network

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread Magne J. Andreassen
On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 12:48 -0700, John Brahy wrote: I totally love the idea but it's not a song. The skit was great but I was really hoping to blast some music everything I got a error from my raid array because of this problem. It should be a good punk rock song! How about God Save the

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 12:48:08PM -0700, John Brahy wrote: [...] It should be a good punk rock song! So write a song for the next release. How about [...] God Save the RAID? $ man -k god god: nothing appropriate (SCNR) Ciao, Kili

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread Han Boetes
Argghh my musical brains!!! tap tap tap tap. cat ~/nfs/nowplaying NP: John Williams - Raiders Of The Lost Ark - 01 - The Raiders March.mp3 Oooff... # Han

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread Han Boetes
Matthias Kilian wrote: John Brahy wrote: [...] It should be a good punk rock song! So write a song for the next release. How about [...] God Save the RAID? $ man -k god god: nothing appropriate (SCNR) Heh, you don't know `God save the queen' from the sex pistols :-) # Han

Seeking a reputable source for information on HTML coding .. please read (September 27, 2005)

2005-09-27 Thread Richard Meyers
Hello, Some of my clients are searching online for a reputable source for information on HTML coding/programming. My job is to find one place to work with. I'd like to discuss an arrangement with you. Please contact me at your earliest convenience. I will be in today (Tuesday) from 8:00 AM PST

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread unixadmin99
On 9/27/05, Magne J. Andreassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 12:48 -0700, John Brahy wrote: I totally love the idea but it's not a song. The skit was great but I was really hoping to blast some music everything I got a error from my raid array because of this problem. It

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Simon Morgan
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 10:01:29PM -0800, Szechuan Death wrote: Do not whine about your users not buying CDs if you're in the business of writing free software, because nobody wants to hear it Free from restrictions, not monetary cost. Just because this makes it easy for you to download and

Re: brconfig: documentation bug? ease-of-use tweak? or luser wanting too much handholding?

2005-09-27 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:15:42PM +0100, Stefek Zaba wrote: I leave it to the Relevant Authorities whether to classify this in one of the three categories suggested in the Subject: line, or dispose of it some other way. Those three possibilities, in order of increasing work, are a)

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread ed
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 06:28:14 -0400 Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Theo doesn't want or need your talk. The project needs users of their code to help out by purchasing a CD, shirt, maybe even a poster. Nag your buddy who you usually lend your CD to, or that downloads via FTP,

Creating an MSDOS partiotion on OpenBSD

2005-09-27 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
Hello, I have an OpenBSD 3.7 i386 installation on an external usb-enclosure. I have some space left, and I would like to create an msdos partition (to transfer files between windows and OpenBSD). I have tried to create one using OpenBSD's fdisk; then I have formatted the new partition in windows

Re: Creating an MSDOS partiotion on OpenBSD

2005-09-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
I have an OpenBSD 3.7 i386 installation on an external usb-enclosure. I have some space left, and I would like to create an msdos partition (to transfer files between windows and OpenBSD). I have tried to create one using OpenBSD's fdisk; then I have formatted the new partition in windows

Re: is there a way to block sshd trolling?

2005-09-27 Thread Kevin Frand
I use an intruder table within pf table intruders file /etc/pf.intruders Then in pf rules: block drop in log-all from intruders to any Then I run this script out of cron on a periodic basis (remove the echo statements for cron use - I like to run it manually, too) #!/usr/local/bin/bash #

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread ed
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:01:10 +0200 Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthias Kilian wrote: $ man -k god god: nothing appropriate Heh, you don't know `God save the queen' from the sex pistols :-) I have the album if anyone wants it... #8, I'm bored of it, it's very 80's UK punk. I

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 song

2005-09-27 Thread Gordon Grieder
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:49:28PM +0100, ed wrote: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 23:01:10 +0200 Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heh, you don't know `God save the queen' from the sex pistols :-) I have the album if anyone wants it... #8, I'm bored of it, it's very 80's UK punk. Motorhead's

One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread stan
I find myself in the position sometimes when away from home having access to only M$ machines with a base OS load only. I don;t have telnet open on my home network, but i was considering opening it up on the OpenbD firewall, and using some sort of one time password scheme. Would this be a sane

Re: Need Opteron Motherboard Help - Supermicro?

2005-09-27 Thread Johan M:son Lindman
On Tuesday 27 September 2005 18.47, Mike wrote: Hi All, Anyone here using one of the Supermicro AMD 8131-based motherboards on their OBSD system? If these are unsuitable for OpenBSD, then what AMD64 or Opteron motherboards are the current cream of the crop that do work well with OpenBSD?

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Ray Percival
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:22:51PM -0400, stan wrote: I find myself in the position sometimes when away from home having access to only M$ machines with a base OS load only. Things I've learned from travel. 1. Carry a copy of putty on every form of media you can think of. I have one my

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Bob Beck
Why?. Why why why why why If you're going to trust the untrusted machine anyway running a virus run-time environment just google for putty, download and run it. Having said that I'd never log in from crap like that. your risk of getting nailed by a keylogger or

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 9/27/05, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find myself in the position sometimes when away from home having access to only M$ machines with a base OS load only. I don;t have telnet open on my home network, but i was considering opening it up on the OpenbD firewall, and using some sort of one

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Bill
Like S/Key? (man skey) - I've not used it, but my understanding is its one time passwords But why not just load a business card cdrom or something with putty and do ssh. Heck, put it up somewhere so you can download it. On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 21:22:51 -0400 stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake: I

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread C. Bensend
Why?. Why why why why why If you're going to trust the untrusted machine anyway running a virus run-time environment just google for putty, download and run it. I find myself in a similar situation shortly - I'm going to be doing some vacationing in Europe, and will not be

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Raymond Lillard
stan wrote: I find myself in the position sometimes when away from home having access to only M$ machines with a base OS load only. I don;t have telnet open on my home network, but i was considering opening it up on the OpenbD firewall, and using some sort of one time password scheme. Would

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Han Boetes
That's a fine plan. OTP is kind of tricky to do though, so I recommend you try it a few times before you accidentily lock yourself out. Remember you don't have to disable password logins. You just shouldn't do it from public terminals. # Han

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Bob Beck
I don't like the idea of logging in from an unknown host, but I might have to. I'd like to think the above plan is reasonable, but as always, am open to criticism. :) My criticism is as before: have to - versus $99.00 laptop on ebay - if you can't afford that you're either

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread stan
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:39:56PM -0500, C. Bensend wrote: Why?. Why why why why why If you're going to trust the untrusted machine anyway running a virus run-time environment just google for putty, download and run it. I find myself in a similar situation shortly - I'm

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Bryan Irvine
I don;t have telnet open on my home network, but i was considering opening it up on the OpenbD firewall, and using some sort of one time password scheme. Webmin has a built-in java ssh client. I'd probably just use that. It also has VNC that might let you get to your windows machines. --Bryan

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread C. Bensend
Have to - you keep using those words. I don't think it means what you think it means. Yes, I know what it means, just as you do. 98% of the time, have to is want to or really want to. I'm using it loosely. And in this situation, the networks I'm talking about are my own, so the biggest

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
If you don't trust the endpoint, no amount of one time passwords, or ssh will save you. You will get keylogged, or followed in, and owned. it's that simple. Why mess around with gymnastics like s/key from an untrusted host instead of solving the real threat to your security? I was in a

Re: Which SATA controller to purchase

2005-09-27 Thread Benjamin A. Collins
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 08:42:47AM -0500, Daniel A. Ramaley wrote: On Monday 26 September 2005 20:10, you wrote: Try this one out for size, I can vouch that it's super http://www.lsilogic.com/products/megaraid/sata_150_4.html Brandon Is there an LSI SATA card that doesn't have RAID and works

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread C. Bensend
Doing it any other way is totally stupid. Or you don't need security and won't have it. And anyone else here who suggested that you could use OTP to solve this is totally clueless. Obviously, I am missing something fundamental. If I use an OTP to log into a remote system via an untrusted

sh-script executing

2005-09-27 Thread Ilya A. Kovalenko
Greetings, I found out that sh(1) reads file in process of execution (instead of read whole file and execute it from memory image), which makes editing such scripts unreliable and/or dangerous. Is there any existing ways to solve this problem ? Is there sense to make sh(1) to read whole

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
If I use an OTP to log into a remote system via an untrusted host, and I don't type any further passwords in, what exposure am I presenting? What exactly do you think untrusted means in the phrase untrusted host? Come on, THINK...

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread C. Bensend
What exactly do you think untrusted means in the phrase untrusted host? That anything and everything will be captured and logged in plain text. That's what _I_ consider untrusted. Everything including the login credentials, but they're a one-time thing. Right? Is that not the case? What am

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Theo de Raadt
What exactly do you think untrusted means in the phrase untrusted host? That anything and everything will be captured and logged in plain text. That's what _I_ consider untrusted. Everything including the login credentials, but they're a one-time thing. Right? Is that not the case?

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
I don;t have telnet open on my home network, but i was considering opening it up on the OpenbD firewall, and using some sort of one time password scheme. Would this be a sane thing to do? and f so, where cold find some software to support the one time password functionality? Once you log

Re: One time passwords?

2005-09-27 Thread Han Boetes
Theo de Raadt wrote: You are trusting that the keylogger does not make the guy show up and take over your one time password session. I can't believe you couldn't see that. Sounds pretty TheoRaadtical. :-) # Han