Re: OpenBSD and the money

2006-04-03 Thread Steffen Kluge
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 10:16 +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: Try to name at least one incentive for Alberta to fund a project where the financial benefits will largely be reaped outside of Alberta. For a lot of people, OpenBSD has put Alberta on the map... Cheers Steffen.

odd dmesg

2006-04-03 Thread Brian
I just did a fresh install of 3.9-current. And part of the dmesg is coming across oddly. I am not sure what else to say about it. It's the iic0 and iic1. Check it out: OpenBSD 3.9-current (GENERIC) #670: Sat Apr 1 23:34:55 MST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC

Re: odd dmesg

2006-04-03 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
On 4/3/06, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just did a fresh install of 3.9-current. And part of the dmesg is coming across oddly. I am not sure what else to say about it. It's the iic0 and iic1. It's just the new sensors framework telling you that it has encountered an unsupported sensor

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-03 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 11:11:22AM +0530, Niklaus wrote: On 4/2/06, Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/2/06, Niklaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what problem are you really trying to solve? really, what problem are you trying to solve? the fact that you have untrusted users?

Re: odd dmesg

2006-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
iic0 at nviic0 sch5017 at iic0 addr 0x2e not configured iic0: addr 0x2e 00=00 01=00 02=00 03=00 04=00 05=00 06=00 07=00 08=00 09=00 0a=00 0b=00 0c=00 0d=00 0e=00 0f=00 10=00 11=00 12=00 13=00 14=00 15=00 16=00 17=00 18=00 19=00 1a=00 1b=00 1c=00 1d=00 1e=00 1f=ec 20=65 21=7a 22=c2 23=c4

3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread David B.
hi, I see 3.9 is getting ready to be released. Do you plan on bundling Apache2 with it? it would seem a logical thing to do, since the Apache version currently bundled with it seems to have problems. I just lost my entire development box to a hack this week, right through smoothwall's DMZ.

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Daniel Ouellet
David B. wrote: hi, I see 3.9 is getting ready to be released. Do you plan on bundling Apache2 with it? it would seem a logical thing to do, since the Apache version currently bundled with it seems to have problems. You should check the archive if you don't want to be flame. The license

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Julien Cabillot
http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html Source code published under version 2 of the Apache license cannot be included into OpenBSD. On 4/3/06, David B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, I see 3.9 is getting ready to be released. Do you plan on bundling Apache2 with it? it would seem a logical thing

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, David B. wrote: hi, I see 3.9 is getting ready to be released. Do you plan on bundling Apache2 with it? it would seem a logical thing to do, since the Apache version currently bundled with it seems to have problems. I just lost my entire development box to a hack this

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/04/03 02:40, David B. wrote: I even had all packets dropped that came from asia, south america and africa. What's the point in this? If you want to drop packets from places where there might be attackers, you certainly need to include N.America and Europe on your list. I don't mind

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Edd Barrett
The point being, if you sell security as your market niche, you might want to make sure that, at least, Apache be up to date, and not a version from 5 years ago where who knows how many hacks there are out there for it. If I remember correctly it is a modified version of apache 1.3. It is

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 02:40:50AM -0600, David B. wrote: hi, I see 3.9 is getting ready to be released. Do you plan on bundling Apache2 with it? it would seem a logical thing to do, since the Apache version currently bundled with it seems to have problems. I just lost my entire

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Craig
David B. wrote: hi, I see 3.9 is getting ready to be released. Do you plan on bundling Apache2 with it? it would seem a logical thing to do, since the Apache version currently bundled with it seems to have problems. I just lost my entire development box to a hack this week, right through

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Gordon Grieder
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 02:40:50AM -0600, David B. wrote: I just lost my entire development box to a hack this week, right through smoothwall's DMZ. I had apache up, postgresql installed with the mod_php as the middleware. All settings were default and the only port I had open was 80

Re: Theo is a Blogger :-)

2006-04-03 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 2 Apr 2006 17:30:04 +0200, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn, now you've got me curious... All joking aside, if someone wanted to check out humppa for the first time, would this be a good album to buy? They have some songs available for download on their

Re: Problems with X in OpenBSD (3.9) -current with LCD WideScreen Monitor

2006-04-03 Thread Francisco Valladolid
This is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

Re: Problems with X in OpenBSD (3.9) -current with LCD WideScreen Monitor

2006-04-03 Thread Roy Morris
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Francisco Valladolid Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 9:44 AM To: Nick Holland Cc: misc Subject: Re: Problems with X in OpenBSD (3.9) -current with LCD WideScreen Monitor This is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Bluetooth in OpenBSD

2006-04-03 Thread zoraya
I have installed OpenBSD 3.8 in a laptop with a winmodem so I can't connect to the internet with it but recently by chance I realised that OpenBSD3.8 recognised the bluetooth adapter I had plugged in on the USB, a Belkin v1.2 10m range, during boot up time it highlited it and acknowledged

T-short ordering to Ukraine

2006-04-03 Thread Alexey Vatchenko
Hi! I'd like to buy the Wireframe Puffy. Has anyone order t-short from Ukraine? How many extra money does it take to deliver it to Ukraine? -- Alexey V. Vatchenko http://psytech.h10.ru JID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 162799204

Re: T-short ordering to Ukraine

2006-04-03 Thread Craig
Alexey Vatchenko wrote: Hi! I'd like to buy the Wireframe Puffy. Has anyone order t-short from Ukraine? How many extra money does it take to deliver it to Ukraine? I don't know about the Ukraine, but I ordered a couple of t-shirts, 31 days ago and there's still no sign of the goods. VERY

Re: T-short ordering to Ukraine

2006-04-03 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Craig wrote: Alexey Vatchenko wrote: Hi! I'd like to buy the Wireframe Puffy. Has anyone order t-short from Ukraine? How many extra money does it take to deliver it to Ukraine? I don't know about the Ukraine, but I ordered a couple of t-shirts, 31 days ago

Re: disable listen on ports

2006-04-03 Thread Arnaud Bergeron
On 4/3/06, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 11:11:22AM +0530, Niklaus wrote: On 4/2/06, Chris Kuethe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/2/06, Niklaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what problem are you really trying to solve? really, what problem are you

Re: Bluetooth in OpenBSD

2006-04-03 Thread Marcus Lindemann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed OpenBSD 3.8 in a laptop with a winmodem so I can't connect to the internet with it but recently by chance I realised that OpenBSD3.8 recognised the bluetooth adapter I had plugged in on the USB, a Belkin v1.2 10m range, during boot up time it highlited

Re: 3.9 coming out

2006-04-03 Thread Karsten McMinn
On 4/3/06, Gordon Grieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 02:40:50AM -0600, David B. wrote: I just lost my entire development box to a hack this week, right through smoothwall's DMZ. I had apache up, postgresql installed with the mod_php as the middleware. All settings

Mount Windows Shares

2006-04-03 Thread João Salvatti
I'd like to know if it's possible to mount a Windows share that is located on a Windows 2003 server machine which also has my OpenBSD 3.8. My machine does not belong to the Windows machine's domain. I've tried the same system to mount with GNU/Linux but I hadn't any success. I've already search

Re: Are we users stupid or what?

2006-04-03 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
2006/4/3, Samurai Chef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: on Sunday 02 April 2006 07:58 pm, Deanna Phillips wrote: And yeah, Linux users are generally stupid. Can help but chime in on the stupid issue... I run Windows, MPE i/X, HP-UX, OpenBSD, Linux, Oracle, and Cisco routers, and yes, sometimes, I'm

Re: Mount Windows Shares

2006-04-03 Thread Nick Guenther
On 4/3/06, Joco Salvatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know if it's possible to mount a Windows share that is located on a Windows 2003 server machine which also has my OpenBSD 3.8. My machine does not belong to the Windows machine's domain. I've tried the same system to mount with

Re: Mount Windows Shares

2006-04-03 Thread Josh Grosse
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 07:03:02PM +0100, Nick Guenther wrote: On 4/3/06, Joco Salvatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to know if it's possible to mount a Windows share that is located on a Windows 2003 server machine which also has my OpenBSD 3.8. My machine does not belong to the

SAS controllers?

2006-04-03 Thread Bill Marquette
Are any SAS controllers (LSI, or otherwise) supported? The HP DL380 G5's are supposed to start shipping with the P600 controller - looking at the ciss(4) driver, I _think_ it works, but I'm not sure I'm reading correctly ;) --Bill

why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

2006-04-03 Thread Jon Kent
Hi, This one kinda supprised me. When I was looking around by new 3.8 install I noticed that in /etc/skel/.profile that PATH contains a . in it, which I found supprising as I've always assumed that this was not a sensible thing to do. I've taken it out as I'm not too happy when having the

Re: SAS controllers?

2006-04-03 Thread Srebrenko Sehic
I personally tested a DL360 G4 with SAS/P600 and it worked like a charm (after a small patch I've sent; this is in 3.9-STABLE). Actually, ciss(4) doesn't really care if the controller is SAS or not. It just works, unlike LSI mpt(4). There is some hacking going on to add SAS support for it. If all

fatal in RDE: attr_diff: equal attributes encountered

2006-04-03 Thread tony sarendal
I'm playing a bit with bgpd while trying to get the kids to sleep, 50% to go. With Hennings next-hop self patch I made a minimal config and slapped together a network with a handful of routers with a config like below: AS 65000 network 172.16.0.1/32 network connected network static group ibgp {

Re: why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

2006-04-03 Thread Josh Caster
That is not a . in the sense of the current directory. .profile is a hidden directory and the . prefix denotes this... Josh - Original Message - From: Jon Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

Re: why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

2006-04-03 Thread Han Boetes
Jon Kent wrote: This one kinda supprised me. When I was looking around by new 3.8 install I noticed that in /etc/skel/.profile that PATH contains a . in it, which I found supprising as I've always assumed that this was not a sensible thing to do. I've taken it out as I'm not too happy when

Re: why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

2006-04-03 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 11:51:17PM +0200, Han Boetes wrote: ...[ . in the path ...] As long as it is at the end of your PATH it's not that bad. I disagree. Because that makes exploiting typos possible. (cat - cta *oops*, for example) Kind regards, Hannah.

Re: malloc/memset pair in dmesg

2006-04-03 Thread Nick Guenther
On 4/3/06, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/3/06, Thorsten Glaser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: sizeof(char) = 1 by definition. Isn't using sizeof(char) clearer though? It doesn't change the binary anyway so what does it matter how it's written? -Nick

Re: why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

2006-04-03 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
On 4/3/06, Josh Caster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is not a . in the sense of the current directory. .profile is a hidden directory and the . prefix denotes this... What did you smoke? .profile is not a directory and that line DOES add . to your PATH. And I always learned that was a unsafe

Re: why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

2006-04-03 Thread Ted Unangst
On 4/3/06, Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Kent wrote: This one kinda supprised me. When I was looking around by new 3.8 install I noticed that in /etc/skel/.profile that PATH contains a . in it, which I found supprising as I've always assumed that this was not a sensible thing

Re: why is there . [dot] in default PATH?

2006-04-03 Thread Nick Guenther
On 4/3/06, Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Kent wrote: This one kinda supprised me. When I was looking around by new 3.8 install I noticed that in /etc/skel/.profile that PATH contains a . in it, which I found supprising as I've always assumed that this was not a sensible thing

sendmail from source with berkeley db4

2006-04-03 Thread skip
Does any body know how to recompile the OpenBSD included sendmail source (-current) to use Berkeley DB4 from ports? I've been trying to recompile sendmail from source (-current) with Berkeley DB4 support enabled... and I can't seem to figure it out. Using the standard sendmail distribution I

Re: OpenBSD 3.8 on HP NC6000

2006-04-03 Thread Peter Bako
Actually I did mention to you in my email that I am using the F.14 BIOS update, but you are correct I did not provide the URL to where I downloaded it from, so here it is: http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/hpcpqnk/us/download/22830.html Thanks to Jeff's info on the serial setup, here is

Crypto card

2006-04-03 Thread Frédéric Nadeau
Summer is coming and for student like me, it mean nothing to do for a while. I usely play around with embedded system but I'd like to put my hand on a PCIe FPGA dev board for the summer. Since I never made use of crypto card(but I know OpenSSH candirectly make use of them) I wonder if it worth

Re: Crypto card

2006-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
Basicaly, is the PCI bus a bottle neck for crypto card or is it the chip on the card? No. The scatter gather interface is the bottleneck. This is normally setup a bit like an ethernet or scsi chipset's outstanding operations list, but you need to be able to cut virtual address ranges into

Re: Crypto card

2006-04-03 Thread Theo de Raadt
Basicaly, is the PCI bus a bottle neck for crypto card or is it the chip on the card? No. The scatter gather interface is the bottleneck. This is normally setup a bit like an ethernet or scsi chipset's outstanding operations list, but you need to be able to cut virtual address ranges

Moving a file mount point

2006-04-03 Thread Karl Kopp
Hi All, I've setup a Cisco replacement using OpenBSD and OpenBGPd and man, this thing FLIES :) I paid almost $3k AUD recently for another 64MB of RAM for our Cisco 2610 and it was still struggling under the load of 6 - 8mb/sec! The new OpenBSD box is running at less that 2% CPU pushing 20mb/sec -

Re: zaurus 3200 with obsd anyone yet?

2006-04-03 Thread Uwe Stuehler
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 09:59:29AM -0500, Pierre Groulx wrote: I think that we're all waiting for the first report of a 3200 working properly. I know that I am... Pierre so here it goes... looks (un)surprisingly similar to the C3100 dmesg. :) 3.8 would work, but to use the graphical

Re: Moving a file mount point

2006-04-03 Thread Steve Shockley
Karl Kopp wrote: One thing I need to do urgently tho is move my /var mount - I'm not 100% how to do this on a running box with the least amount of down time. Any hints / advice would be greatly appreciated! Check towards the end of the http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#NewDisk (14.3)

OpenBSD 3.9-stable (not current) install?

2006-04-03 Thread Steve Williams
Hi, I understand the whole issue with snapshots being held up for the release cycle. I have followed the mail list and archives, and still have not figured out the answer... If I want to install OpenBSD 3.9-stable (or the release ..), what is the easiest way to do that? There is no 3.9

Re: OpenBSD 3.9-stable (not current) install?

2006-04-03 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 11:55, Steve Williams wrote: If I want to install OpenBSD 3.9-stable (or the release ..), what is the easiest way to do that? Wait for it to be released. --- Lars Hansson

Re: OpenBSD 3.9-stable (not current) install?

2006-04-03 Thread Michael Scheliga
Unless you pre-ordered a CD, the release goes up on ftp sites on or right before the release date, hence release date is used. The fact that -current is up on ftp has nothing to do with the release being available. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: OpenBSD 3.9-stable (not current) install?

2006-04-03 Thread Paulo Rodriguez
- Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Steve Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag, april 4, 2006 05:55 AM Aan: misc@openbsd.org Onderwerp: OpenBSD 3.9-stable (not current) install? ... If I want to install OpenBSD 3.9-stable (or the release ..), what is the easiest way to do

Re: Theo is a Blogger :-)

2006-04-03 Thread Bill
On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 07:56:26 -0700 J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 16:07:43 +0200, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ music |Aqua Barbie Girl ] April Fools is one thing but someone around here has a really twisted sense of humor.