Re: snapshot always actual releases?

2006-07-28 Thread Miod Vallat
could some one please explain what is means that snapshots are *always* actually releases? In /usr/src/etc/Makefile, there used to be two targets to create tarballs to share a system with someone else: - make snapshot, which would create rough tarballs of various filesystem locations

Re: cat -v

2006-07-28 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Nick Guenther wrote: Why does cat retain the -[etv], -[bn] and -[s] options? I am reading the paper cited in cat's manpage and saw 'vis' mentioned. vis is in base, and line numbering and stripping can be done with sed, so why does cat have those options? Is for history,

Problems with PCMCIA cards

2006-07-28 Thread Paul Maurer
I am a new user having just installed OpenBSD for the first time. I am having trouble with my PCMCIA cards. I have 2 cards, both 3COM, and two PCMCIA slots (TI-PCI1130, see dmesg below). I am currently having two issues: system hangs in bios after reboot and kernel panics when pcmcia card is

Re: cat -v

2006-07-28 Thread Marcus Watts
Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... Anyway, I wasn't trying to fight about it, I'm just curious. ... sed -n l has been around since forever or at least since v7. Presumably before that folks used ed or od. cat -v -e etc. have been around in *bsd since at least 4.1bsd. I don't remember

Re: cat -v

2006-07-28 Thread Andreas Kahari
On 28/07/06, Marcus Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... Anyway, I wasn't trying to fight about it, I'm just curious. ... sed -n l has been around since forever or at least since v7. Presumably before that folks used ed or od. cat -v -e etc. have been

VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread jeraklo
Hi there, for the first time during my employment I have the opportunity to introduce OpenBSD into a production of the corporate environment as an VPN concentrator i.e. remote access server. The problem is, all folks here are very Linux biased and introducing OpenBSD for such an important task is

Intel gigabit 82541PI

2006-07-28 Thread Lasse Bach
Hi. I'm looking for some gigabit netcards. And I was checking up on if the Intel 82541PI is supported by OpenBSD. Looking through the supported hardware for i386 page I found that i82541 is supported in the gigabit section. Looking in the em(4) manpage I found that a series of 82541's is

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Håkan Olsson
On 28 jul 2006, at 11.19, jeraklo wrote: ... The network layout looks like following: CLIENT (can have public IP or private IP) | (private client IP assumes default gateway uses NAT) | | INTERNET | | NIC_0_FIREWALL_0 (public IP) FIREWALL_0 NIC_1_FIREWALL_1 (public IP, subnet_A) | | NIC_0

Re: Intel gigabit 82541PI

2006-07-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/07/28 13:19, Lasse Bach wrote: Looking through the supported hardware for i386 page I found that i82541 is supported in the gigabit section. Looking in the em(4) manpage I found that a series of 82541's is supported. But the PI is not listed. I think it may be caught by the

Re: snapshot always actual releases?

2006-07-28 Thread Siju George
On 7/28/06, Miod Vallat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: could some one please explain what is means that snapshots are *always* actually releases? In /usr/src/etc/Makefile, there used to be two targets to create tarballs to share a system with someone else: - make snapshot, which would create rough

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Håkan Olsson
On 28 jul 2006, at 14.09, jeraklo wrote: So, you are saying that pf(4), ipsec(4), ipsecctl(8), and maybe vpn(8) is all I need ? Do I have to make That's a good start, yes. Plus it should be fairly easy to find configuration examples for setups like this. some special tweakings on the

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 02:28:44PM +0200, H?kan Olsson wrote: On 28 jul 2006, at 14.09, jeraklo wrote: So, you are saying that pf(4), ipsec(4), ipsecctl(8), and maybe vpn(8) is all I need ? Do I have to make That's a good start, yes. Plus it should be fairly easy to find configuration

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 02:19:46AM -0700, jeraklo wrote: Hi there, for the first time during my employment I have the opportunity to introduce OpenBSD into a production of the corporate environment as an VPN concentrator i.e. remote access server. The problem is, all folks here are very

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Original message Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:28:44 +0200 From: Hekan Olsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux To: jeraklo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org On 28 jul 2006, at 14.09, jeraklo wrote: So, you are

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread jeraklo
I just wanted to simplify the layout (it seems at the end it went more complex, sorry), but two firewalls are actually PIX firewall with several interfaces. So, you are saying that pf(4), ipsec(4), ipsecctl(8), and maybe vpn(8) is all I need ? Do I have to make some special tweakings on the

Re: cat -v

2006-07-28 Thread Nick Guenther
On 7/28/06, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Nick Guenther wrote: Why does cat retain the -[etv], -[bn] and -[s] options? Once you've added a flag to a command it's almost impossible to remove it for compatibility reasons. Thanks Otto. That's what I figured but I

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Jason Dixon
On Jul 28, 2006, at 8:09 AM, jeraklo wrote: I just wanted to simplify the layout (it seems at the end it went more complex, sorry), but two firewalls are actually PIX firewall with several interfaces. So, you are saying that pf(4), ipsec(4), ipsecctl(8), and maybe vpn(8) is all I need ? Do I

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread jeraklo
--- Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is something in the archives about usable IPsec clients for Windows. The built-in one certainly isn't. ok. good to know. This shouldn't be too difficult. Start by installing -current, which has a very neat new configuration interface -

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Tim Donahue
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) jeraklo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternately, for a more shiny, more firewall-friendly, but less efficient protocol and not quite as secure an implemenation, try OpenVPN. It runs on Windows, Mac OS X, and (most?) POSIX-compliant systems that

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/07/28 06:30, jeraklo wrote: sorry. got to go with the stable branch (3.9). ipsec.conf(5) was added for 3.8, and improved between then and -current. isakmpd.conf(5) is no longer present in -current, so it makes sense to use ipsec.conf(5) right away. OK but do OpenVPN connections survive

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread jeraklo
The proposed design will definitely be initially tested in a lab. Not to worry about that part. The major problem I have seen by now is that IPsec have problems with NAT, while OpenVPN doesn't (but it adds to latency - it is not a major concern in the desired setup). I would like to briefly

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 06:30:13AM -0700, jeraklo wrote: --- Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to the VPN box. The only real problem you are going to run into is if subnet C overlaps with a network the client is already connected to, actually, client connects to a public

Re: OpenBSD gets a poor score in security.

2006-07-28 Thread Carlos A. Carnero Delgado
On 7/27/06, Louis Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you do send something in, be polite. We're not a bunch of raving loonies. We're not? Damn! Carlos. -- nick grah windows just crashed again, unstable crap. yukito Windows isn't unstable, it's just spontaneous.

Watching daemons

2006-07-28 Thread Carlos A. Carnero Delgado
Hello, currently I have a problem with my server that makes ftp-proxy die unexpectedly. I'm in the process of tracking this down, which is likely something hardware related AFAIK. In the mean time, I'd like to keep ftp-proxy running most of the time. What do you guys use/recommend to watch if a

piixpm / iic / admtemp issues!

2006-07-28 Thread Anibal Amiama-Veras
Hi: I recently install OpenBSD in a Dell PowerEdge 1400sc, everything works fine [like always] but I found 2 issues that I cant resolve. Machine : Dell PowerEdge 1400 sc / 512MB / 34GB scsi disk / Intel 10/100 OS : OpenBSD 3.9 Kernel : GENERIC.MP 1. Even using halt -p the machine dont power

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:09:17AM -0700, jeraklo wrote: The proposed design will definitely be initially tested in a lab. Not to worry about that part. The major problem I have seen by now is that IPsec have problems with NAT, while OpenVPN doesn't (but it adds to latency - it is not a

Re: piixpm / iic / admtemp issues!

2006-07-28 Thread Bjorn Andersson
Hi: I recently install OpenBSD in a Dell PowerEdge 1400sc, everything works fine [like always] but I found 2 issues that I cant resolve. Machine : Dell PowerEdge 1400 sc / 512MB / 34GB scsi disk / Intel 10/100 OS : OpenBSD 3.9 Kernel : GENERIC.MP 1. Even using halt -p the machine dont

Re: OpenBSD gets a poor score in security.

2006-07-28 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: Marian Hettwer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenBSD is secure in many ways, but if the third party app has a security flaw and released a bugfix, I'd like to see an updated package / port too. Otherwise I would need to compile the bugfixed version from source, which doesn't make sense at

Re: OpenBSD gets a poor score in security.

2006-07-28 Thread C. Dominik Bódi
I've written some sort of rebuttal. It is not specific to OpenBSD, though. http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/23230/ Regards, Dominik [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature]

Re: Watching daemons

2006-07-28 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Carlos, What do you guys use/recommend to watch if a process dies and restart it? monit: http://www.tildeslash.com/monit/ /usr/ports/sysutils/monit/ HTH... Nico

IKE DoS - factual?

2006-07-28 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
Word is, there is a flaw in IKEv1 that allows for an attacker to create IKE sessions faster than previous attempts expire. The security research firm who found the flaw only lists Cisco VPN devices as being vulnerable while Cisco maintains that the flaw is in the IKE protocol itself. Research

Re: Watching daemons

2006-07-28 Thread NetNeanderthal
On 7/28/06, Carlos A. Carnero Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the mean time, I'd like to keep ftp-proxy running most of the time. What do you guys use/recommend to watch if a process dies and restart it? More to the root of the problem, have you turned on verbose debugging output to see if

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread jeraklo
--- Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 07:09:17AM -0700, jeraklo wrote: The proposed design will definitely be initially tested in a lab. Not to worry about that part. The major problem I have seen by now is that IPsec have problems with NAT, while

Re: Problems with PCMCIA cards

2006-07-28 Thread Mark Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:33:04PM -0700, Paul Maurer wrote: I am a new user having just installed OpenBSD for the first time. I am having trouble with my PCMCIA cards. I have 2 cards, both 3COM, and two PCMCIA slots (TI-PCI1130, see dmesg below). I am currently having two issues: system

Re: dhcpd on CARP+VLAN interfaces

2006-07-28 Thread Sevan / Venture37
Christopher Snell wrote: 2) One of the downsides to running dhcpd on a pair of CARP boxes is that there is no syncing of the leases file. So, if we have a /24 that has 240 machines, all using dynamic IPs, and the primary CARP box fails, dhcpd on the backup box will have no knowledge of those

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Spruell, Darren-Perot
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You *will* require the 'access network' to pass ESP, 500/UDP (IKE), and 4500/UDP (IPsec NAT-T), of course. Regarding NAT-T, does it have to be enabled both in clients and the VPN server ? If yes and if we're talking about windows clients - does it come

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Jason == Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Everything you need is in the base install. With the recent changes to Jason ipsecctl and ipsec.conf, there's no need to consider OpenVPN (except perhaps Jason on technical merits, which I believe it loses on). Maybe not on getting it set

Re: Watching daemons

2006-07-28 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 10:38:49AM -0400, Carlos A. Carnero Delgado wrote: In the mean time, I'd like to keep ftp-proxy running most of the time. What do you guys use/recommend to watch if a process dies and restart it? I would use daemontools[1] or runit[2]. There's also freedt in ports,

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Jason Dixon
On Jul 28, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Jason == Jason Dixon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jason Everything you need is in the base install. With the recent changes to Jason ipsecctl and ipsec.conf, there's no need to consider OpenVPN (except perhaps Jason on technical

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Steven Surdock
Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2006/07/28 06:30, jeraklo wrote: sorry. got to go with the stable branch (3.9). disadvantages:- openvpn is more complicated to install on OpenBSD than ipsec lots of security fixes Not on the client side, I think you'll find OpenVPN much easier to configure as

Re: 4.0-beta

2006-07-28 Thread Tobias Weingartner
Bryan Irvine wrote: I can't wait to see what goodies you've been holding back for the 4.0release. ;) Hold back? Congrats on the momentum, and thanks for the good work. Thanks. :) -- [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/07/28 15:57, Steven Surdock wrote: openvpn is more complicated to install on OpenBSD than ipsec Not on the client side, I think you'll find OpenVPN much easier to configure as well. OpenVPN is trivially easy to install using the packages on OBSD. I do use both so I realise that

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 09:29:59AM -0700, jeraklo wrote: Regarding NAT-T, does it have to be enabled both in clients and the VPN server ? If yes and if we're talking about windows clients - does it come bundled with some external IPsec client or does it have to be enabled in the windows

Gratuitous ARP problem with OpenBSD and MS Cluster Services

2006-07-28 Thread Clayton Wheeler
Hello, I have a pair of OpenBSD 3.9 firewalls (using pf and carp) attached to a network with a Windows server cluster on it. The Windows cluster moves a shared IP address between nodes using the MAC address of the actual cluster node, not a common virtual MAC address like pf uses. When

Re: Problems with PCMCIA cards

2006-07-28 Thread Paul Maurer
On 2006-07-28 15:35:05, Mark Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 10:33:04PM -0700, Paul Maurer wrote: I am a new user having just installed OpenBSD for the first time. I am having trouble with my PCMCIA cards. I have 2 cards, both 3COM, and two PCMCIA slots (TI-PCI1130, see dmesg

Re: VPN help needed: OpenBSD in the corporate environment instead of Linux

2006-07-28 Thread Hans-Joerg Hoexer
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 03:57:02PM -0400, Steven Surdock wrote: Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2006/07/28 06:30, jeraklo wrote: sorry. got to go with the stable branch (3.9). disadvantages:- openvpn is more complicated to install on OpenBSD than ipsec lots of security fixes Not on

Re: IKE DoS - factual?

2006-07-28 Thread Hans-Joerg Hoexer
On Fri, Jul 28, 2006 at 09:32:09AM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: Word is, there is a flaw in IKEv1 that allows for an attacker to create IKE sessions faster than previous attempts expire. The security research firm who found the flaw only lists Cisco VPN devices as being vulnerable while

Nagios check_bioctl available

2006-07-28 Thread andrew fresh
I have written a perl script that parses the output from bioctl and returns it in a format that Nagios can use. check_bioctl is avaliable here: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/nagios/check_bioctl-1.3.tar.gz It is useful to me, and so I thought it might be useful to someone else. I wrote this

Re: Nagios check_bioctl available

2006-07-28 Thread Marco Peereboom
andrew fresh wrote: I have written a perl script that parses the output from bioctl and returns it in a format that Nagios can use. Sweet :-) check_bioctl is avaliable here: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/nagios/check_bioctl-1.3.tar.gz It is useful to me, and so I thought it might be

Re: Nagios check_bioctl available

2006-07-28 Thread Marco Peereboom
andrew fresh wrote: I have written a perl script that parses the output from bioctl and returns it in a format that Nagios can use. Sweet :-) check_bioctl is avaliable here: http://openbsd.somedomain.net/nagios/check_bioctl-1.3.tar.gz It is useful to me, and so I thought it might be

Ipsecadm Subnet-Subnet Can't connect

2006-07-28 Thread Sean Tan
Hi I have some problem on the ipsecadm setting as i ping from 172.16.22.2 to 10.150.17.2 i cant get reply from 10.150.17.2 but i can get replay as i tcpdump on the WAN interface at 1.1.1.1 and 2.2.2.2 but untill 2.2.2.2 interface it ihas the replay but without the encap. It means when the packet