Re: net hangs (pf related?)

2009-08-19 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
No one, really? On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: Hi. For five days in a row now I've been having the same issue. 2 days ago I upgraded to a never snapshot in case it would fix my problem without luck. This is @home on a DSL lines. OpenBSD gateway is connected to the modem

Erlangen Mirror Downtime

2009-08-19 Thread Alexander von Gernler
Hi, probably due to a power outage at the university, Erlangen mirror came back online with serious RAID problems. It looks like the machine lost its volume completely, which would in turn mean that a complete reinstall and refetch of all data will be necessary. This means that the mirror won't

Re: net hangs (pf related?)

2009-08-19 Thread Nicholas Marriott
Well, can you reproduce it if you run the rsnapshot manually? If you go back to a kernel from 6 days ago does it work? On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 09:08:14AM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: No one, really? On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: Hi. For five days in a row now

Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?

2009-08-19 Thread Michal
-Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Jacob Meuser Sent: 19 August 2009 04:08 To: OpenBSD Misc Subject: Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st? On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:03:58PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: wim wauters wrote:

Re: spam in misc list.

2009-08-19 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 04:53:42 + 4625 4625...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Aaron Mason wrote: Let me answer that question with another: why should we read messages about people whining about spam? It's actually worse than the spam It is simple: I do not wanna to see smap/fish

de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Lars Nooden
Jacob Meuser wrote: don't blame youtube and the like for creating de facto standards. There fixed that for you. Flash wasn't really used until YouTube started pushing it on sheeple. Also AFAIK, Flash is a specification for a data format, not an actual *standard* for a data format.

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Hessler
what does this have to do with the openbsd release? Please drop this topic/thread. -- Love thy neighbor as thyself, but choose your neighborhood. -- Louise Beal

Re: net hangs (pf related?)

2009-08-19 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Nicholas Marriott wrote: Well, can you reproduce it if you run the rsnapshot manually? Yes. If you go back to a kernel from 6 days ago does it work? I am using a kernel from 6 days ago. Latest available is Aug 11st. As I said, I upgraded to this one because I was seeing

Re: net hangs (pf related?)

2009-08-19 Thread Nicholas Marriott
Okay, sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying. So, Aug 11 snapshot doesn't work but the snapshot before that one initially worked, then the problem started (without an upgrade)? Sounds weird. A few ideas: Did you change anything at all (pf.conf? rebooted box?) when it started happening?

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Lars Nooden
Peter Hessler wrote: what does this have to do with the openbsd release? Publishing the recording of the presentation about the upcoming OpenBSD release. Publishing similar presentations. OpenBSD ports has Firefox. Firefox now supports Theora. Ports for that release will likely contain

Re: net hangs (pf related?)

2009-08-19 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Wed, 19 Aug 2009, Nicholas Marriott wrote: Okay, sorry if I misunderstood what you were saying. So, Aug 11 snapshot doesn't work but the snapshot before that one initially worked, then the problem started (without an upgrade)? Nope, it happened suddenly with the previous snap. I though

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.xinitrc and new window manager not loading

2009-08-19 Thread Chris
I am trying to get a new wm (scrotwm) and added it to .xinitrc but it's not working. Every time I press ALT-CRTL-Backspace and log back again, I get landed on fvwm. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. The same .xinitrc works on another box running bash shell for a normal user. My shell is ksh, user

Re: .xinitrc and new window manager not loading

2009-08-19 Thread neal hogan
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:32:05AM +, Chris wrote: I am trying to get a new wm (scrotwm) and added it to .xinitrc but it's not working. Every time I press ALT-CRTL-Backspace and log back again, I get landed on fvwm. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. The same .xinitrc works on another box

Re: .xinitrc and new window manager not loading

2009-08-19 Thread Gregory Edigarov
What do you use? xdm or startx? if you use xdm - you should use .xsession instead On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:32:05 + Chris atst...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to get a new wm (scrotwm) and added it to .xinitrc but it's not working. Every time I press ALT-CRTL-Backspace and log back again, I

Re: .xinitrc and new window manager not loading

2009-08-19 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:32:05AM +, Chris wrote: I am trying to get a new wm (scrotwm) and added it to .xinitrc but it's not working. Every time I press ALT-CRTL-Backspace and log back ^^^ again, I get landed on fvwm. Not

Re: .xinitrc and new window manager not loading

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Hessler
ln -s .xinitrc .xsession On 2009 Aug 19 (Wed) at 11:32:05 + (+), Chris wrote: :I am trying to get a new wm (scrotwm) and added it to .xinitrc but :it's not working. Every time I press ALT-CRTL-Backspace and log back :again, I get landed on fvwm. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. :The same

Re: .xinitrc and new window manager not loading

2009-08-19 Thread Gonzalo Lionel Rodriguez
keep it simple. #!/bin/sh # exec scrotwm # #exec /usr/X11R6/bin/scrotwm # 2009/8/19 Joachim Schipper joac...@joachimschipper.nl: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:32:05AM +, Chris wrote: I am trying to get a new wm (scrotwm) and added it to .xinitrc but it's not working. Every time I press

Re: .xinitrc and new window manager not loading

2009-08-19 Thread Chris
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 10:18 PM, Peter Hesslerphess...@theapt.org wrote: ln -s .xinitrc .xsession On 2009 Aug 19 (Wed) at 11:32:05 + (+), Chris wrote: :I am trying to get a new wm (scrotwm) and added it to .xinitrc but :it's not working. Every time I press ALT-CRTL-Backspace and log

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Edd Barrett
On 8/19/09, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Hessler wrote: what does this have to do with the openbsd release? Quite! What does this have to do with it? I just wanted to add that these open source codecs are not a clear comparison to flash (as a piece of software), as flash

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Lars Noodenlars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Hessler wrote: what does this have to do with the openbsd release? Publishing the recording of the presentation about the upcoming OpenBSD release. Publishing similar presentations. I'd be happy to upload

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Nido
I'd be happy to upload OpenBSD presentations in whatever free format you prefer as soon as larstube.com is up and running. what's wrong with $random_ftp_site?

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Elio Grieco
On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Nido wrote: what's wrong with $random_ftp_site? Some ISPs (Cox *ahem*) block ftp altogether. Good thing OpenBSD has http mirrors. Elio Grieco

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Nidon...@foxserver.be wrote: I'd be happy to upload OpenBSD presentations in whatever free format you prefer as soon as larstube.com is up and running. what's wrong with $random_ftp_site? ftp.larstube.com is fine too.

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread bofh
Can you not use something newer? I have a special spot in my heart for Archie and Veronica. Gopher://larstube.com please? On 8/19/09, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Nidon...@foxserver.be wrote: I'd be happy to upload OpenBSD presentations in

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Lars Nooden
Ted Unangst wrote: I'd be happy to upload OpenBSD presentations in whatever free format... Nido wrote: what's wrong with $random_ftp_site? If $random_http_site is acceptable despite the weaker protocol and no one is set on a specific domain name, then hosting accounts are available at the

Re: Delete packages with dependencies

2009-08-19 Thread Luis Useche
Do I have to do something else here? It seems like this discussion cooled down a bit. Is the patch in review? Is the patch been considered for inclusion? Are there any changes I can do to make more suitable for inclusion? I don't exactly how these things work and if I followed the regular path to

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Lars Nooden
Alternately, each of us could chip in a little bandwidth and host the torrents. It can be decentralized or use a tracker. The CCC, for example, uses the Pirate Bay for podcasts and conference videos. -Lars Lars Nooden wrote: Ted Unangst wrote: I'd be happy to upload OpenBSD presentations in

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Nido
Alternately, each of us could chip in a little bandwidth and host the torrents. It can be decentralized or use a tracker. The CCC, for example, uses the Pirate Bay for podcasts and conference videos. HAR also has all tracks on the pirate bay (and a few other torrentsites). I'd be happy to

Re: Wireshark

2009-08-19 Thread merlyn
On Monday 17 August 2009 00:51:28 stan wrote: I realize that there is histroy here but I really need to make this tool work, and OpenBSD is my OS of choice for network related functions. Has anyone gotten wireshark to compile on OpenBSD 4.5? I am trying to build version 1.2.1, if that

Re: Wireshark

2009-08-19 Thread Tom Van Looy
You can also capture the packets with tcpdump and open the pcap file in wireshark on another platform. That's how I do it if I want to use wireshark. Kind regards, Tom merlyn wrote: On Monday 17 August 2009 00:51:28 stan wrote: I realize that there is histroy here but I really need to make

Zero Channel Raid?

2009-08-19 Thread Jeff Ross
Hi, I'm due to take delivery tomorrow of a new-to-me SuperMicro 2U server with the X5DPA-8GG motherboard. Onboard is an Adaptec AIC-7902 U320 SCSI controller but it also has a ZCR slot. I'd intended to just use the disks as sd0 - sd5, but now I also see on the fleabay that I can get an LSI

Re: Zero Channel Raid?

2009-08-19 Thread Marco Peereboom
ZCR is marketing fluff. It ads nothing. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 04:42:10PM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote: Hi, I'm due to take delivery tomorrow of a new-to-me SuperMicro 2U server with the X5DPA-8GG motherboard. Onboard is an Adaptec AIC-7902 U320 SCSI controller but it also has a ZCR slot.

Re: Zero Channel Raid?

2009-08-19 Thread Jeff Ross
Marco Peereboom wrote: ZCR is marketing fluff. It ads nothing. On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 04:42:10PM -0600, Jeff Ross wrote: Hi, I'm due to take delivery tomorrow of a new-to-me SuperMicro 2U server with the X5DPA-8GG motherboard. Onboard is an Adaptec AIC-7902 U320 SCSI controller but it

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Lars Noodenlars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: If $random_http_site is acceptable despite the weaker protocol and no one is set on a specific domain name, then hosting accounts are available at the Internet Archive: http://www.archive.org/create/

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:12:24PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: Flash wasn't really used until YouTube started pushing it on sheeple. I was making flash animations in 1999. flash based websites were very common by 2005, when youtube started. theora is not a product of FOSS. it was abandoned by

Re: Is anyone using the TeX Live DVD binaries for OpenBSD?

2009-08-19 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Edd Barrettvex...@gmail.com wrote: Over at the TeX Live camp we are wondering if anyone is using the binaries found on the DVD distributed by the TeX User Group on OpenBSD? I haven't used those particular binaries, but in my quest to get a working DocBook XML -

Re: de facto standards (Re: 4.6 will be released on October 1st?)

2009-08-19 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 9:14 PM, Jacob Meuserjake...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 01:12:24PM +0300, Lars Nooden wrote: Flash wasn't really used until YouTube started pushing it on sheeple. I was making flash animations in 1999. flash based websites were very common by