Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Eric Furman
On Mon, May 21, 2012, at 06:43 PM, Richards, Toby wrote: > While my question involves other BSD's as well as Linux systems, I am > > Respectfully Submitted, Why do trolls always sign off this way? :) Or they open with,"I don't want to start a fight, but...".

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Janne Johansson
2012/5/22 Richards, Toby : > Outstanding point. The thing is this: With MS > PHP is clearly distinct from the OS. I go get it > from php.org. With BSD I must rely on the > package system. Or you download it and compile it yourself, so the word "must" up there is clearly false unless you have someo

Re: ikev2 and a win7 road warrior host

2012-05-21 Thread Wesley
I already read your posts ;-) and also man pages (ikectl, iked.conf and iked) But now it is for a road warrior configuration. I don't understand these parts : Parts that i don't understand, if someone can help me on : -For server, i need a certificate server for vpn.X.net ? or aa.bb.cc.dd ? i

Re: ikev2 and a win7 road warrior host

2012-05-21 Thread Pavel Shvagirev
Have a look at the discussion between me and Mike Belopuhov that took place not so long ago here... We have covered most of the troubles that you might have met following the man pages. 22.05.2012 10:14, Wesley P=P0P?P8QP0P;: > Hi, > > I'm trying to have this > 192.168.0.0/24--lan--5.1GW--egress-

ikev2 and a win7 road warrior host

2012-05-21 Thread Wesley
Hi, I'm trying to have this 192.168.0.0/24--lan--5.1GW--egress--INTERNET--win7rw working. Gw : (OpenBSD 5.1) hostname vpn.X.net lan have 192.168.0.51/24 egress have a static ip address : aa.bb.cc.dd lan, egress are groups to easily manage PF. win7rw : Host Windows7 Road

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:43 AM, Richards, Toby wrote: > While my question involves other BSD's as well as Linux systems, I am > asking this here because OpenBSD's philosophy is the most attractive > to me. > > I've got about 50 servers to manage. OpenBSD does have an Upgrade > option, but does it

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread richardtoohey
Quoting "Richards, Toby" : > Okay, let's compare upgrading OpenBSD 4.9 + Nginx + PHP 5.2.x to > OpenBSD 5.0 + Nginx + PHP 5.3.x vice upgrading > Windows 2003 + IIS 6 + ASPDotNet 3.5 to Windows 2008 + > IIS 7.0 + ASPDotNet 4.0. Errmm, apples and oranges comparison here. Everything on your Microso

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Mehma Sarja
On 5/21/12 9:34 PM, Matthew Weigel wrote: On 21.05.2012 22:45, Richards, Toby wrote: Granted: I do hold an MCSE certification, but I don't need it. The upgrade just works. Well... despite occasional BSOD's ;) I admit this kind of made me chuckle: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/toby-richards/37/7

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Outstanding point. The thing is this: With MS > PHP is clearly distinct from the OS. I go get it > from php.org. With BSD I must rely on the > package system. That is balony. On OpenBSD, you get PHP yourself, too. PHP is not part of OpenBSD. The package tree is a convenience. If you expect u

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Matthew Weigel
On 21.05.2012 22:45, Richards, Toby wrote: Okay, let's compare upgrading OpenBSD 4.9 + Nginx + PHP 5.2.x to OpenBSD 5.0 + Nginx + PHP 5.3.x vice upgrading Windows 2003 + IIS 6 + ASPDotNet 3.5 to Windows 2008 + IIS 7.0 + ASPDotNet 4.0. In my experience, the MicroEvil Upgrade works without breakin

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Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Peter Laufenberg
>Outstanding point. The thing is this: With MS >PHP is clearly distinct from the OS. I go get it >from php.org. With BSD I must rely on the >package system. This is taking up a lot of ink; is this a genuine enquiry or a provocation? Search for "Extraneous entries for Visual C++ Standard hotfixes"

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Richards, Toby
Outstanding point. The thing is this: With MS PHP is clearly distinct from the OS. I go get it from php.org. With BSD I must rely on the package system. Respectfully Submitted, R. Toby Richards Network Administrator Superior Court of California In and for the County of San Luis Obispo (805) 781-4

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Richards, Toby
Okay, let's compare upgrading OpenBSD 4.9 + Nginx + PHP 5.2.x to OpenBSD 5.0 + Nginx + PHP 5.3.x vice upgrading Windows 2003 + IIS 6 + ASPDotNet 3.5 to Windows 2008 + IIS 7.0 + ASPDotNet 4.0. In my experience, the MicroEvil Upgrade works without breaking any of my web apps. The OpenBSD upgrade get

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 19:20, Richards, Toby wrote: > Will pkg_add -ui upgrade between major releases, such as php 5.2.x => 5.3.x? > When I upgraded OpenBSD 4.9 => 5.0, there was a huge issue because > it supported both PHP 5.2.x AND 5.3.x. I'd have loved to seamlessly > upgraded to 5.3.x, but the

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Kenneth R Westerback
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 06:43:19PM -0700, Richards, Toby wrote: > While my question involves other BSD's as well as Linux systems, I am > asking this here because OpenBSD's philosophy is the most attractive > to me. > > I've got about 50 servers to manage. OpenBSD does have an Upgrade > option, bu

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Alan Corey
Dump/restore can work remarkably like Symantek/Norton Ghost in this situation. Get one machine as flawless as possible, then do a dump onto a spare hard drive. Burn it to a DVD if you like. Then restore onto your target machines. You may have to fiddle with installboot to make the clones bo

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread richardtoohey
Quoting "Richards, Toby" : > Will pkg_add -ui upgrade between major releases, such as php 5.2.x => > 5.3.x? > When I upgraded OpenBSD 4.9 => 5.0, there was a huge issue because > it supported both PHP 5.2.x AND 5.3.x. I'd have loved to seamlessly > upgraded to 5.3.x, but the support of both made i

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread David Diggles
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 06:43:19PM -0700, Richards, Toby wrote: > The two major commercial operating systems (considered to be evil by > the FOSS community) easily upgrade from one version to the next. That's > important in a real-life production environment. In 2001, I upgraded > 200 workstations

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Richards, Toby > > wrote: > >> OpenBSD does have an Upgrade > >> option, but does it upgrade the installed packages? > > > > pkg_add -ui > > Even more relevant: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade51.html > > Interestingly, when I upgrade a Windows machine, the

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Matthew Weigel
On May 21, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Mike Erdely wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Richards, Toby > wrote: >> OpenBSD does have an Upgrade >> option, but does it upgrade the installed packages? > > pkg_add -ui Even more relevant: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade51.html Interestingly, when I

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Richards, Toby
Will pkg_add -ui upgrade between major releases, such as php 5.2.x => 5.3.x? When I upgraded OpenBSD 4.9 => 5.0, there was a huge issue because it supported both PHP 5.2.x AND 5.3.x. I'd have loved to seamlessly upgraded to 5.3.x, but the support of both made it nearly impossible. Respectfully Su

Re: routeuvm_fault panic while starting LDPd

2012-05-21 Thread Rafael Zalamena
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:05 PM, Rafael Zalamena wrote: > On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Claudio Jeker wrote: >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:19:58PM -0300, Rafael Zalamena wrote: >>> While I was configuring a new ALIX to my MPLS setup a panic ocurred >>> while starting LDPd daemon. >>> >>> Step

Re: routeuvm_fault panic while starting LDPd

2012-05-21 Thread Rafael Zalamena
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Claudio Jeker wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:19:58PM -0300, Rafael Zalamena wrote: >> While I was configuring a new ALIX to my MPLS setup a panic ocurred >> while starting LDPd daemon. >> >> Steps: >> 1. Configure all interfaces using /etc/hostname.*, then run

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Mike Erdely
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Richards, Toby wrote: > OpenBSD does have an Upgrade > option, but does it upgrade the installed packages? pkg_add -ui

Re: Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Brian W.
In freebsd you could use portupgrade or portmaster; I dont know what the openbsd options are. On May 21, 2012 6:48 PM, "Richards, Toby" wrote: > While my question involves other BSD's as well as Linux systems, I am > asking this here because OpenBSD's philosophy is the most attractive > to me. >

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Upgrading OpenBSD

2012-05-21 Thread Richards, Toby
While my question involves other BSD's as well as Linux systems, I am asking this here because OpenBSD's philosophy is the most attractive to me. I've got about 50 servers to manage. OpenBSD does have an Upgrade option, but does it upgrade the installed packages? As far as I can tell, it does not.

Re: Tuning for pppoe over fibre 30M/1M link

2012-05-21 Thread David Diggles
> FWIW, I have 20M/5M VDSL service at home and have zero issue doing > 20Mbps with OpenBSD as my pppoe-based firewall. That said, while I > wouldn't expect a 300MHz machine to limit you to 2.4Mbps, it is a bit > weak--and rl NICs are some of the worst out there. Curiously, when > doing 2.4Mbps, w

MPLS VPN with GRE tunnels between PEs

2012-05-21 Thread Bert Smith
Hi, I am trying to set up a Layer 3 MPLS VPN (RFC 4364) with GRE tunnels between PEs (RFC 4797) instead of an MPLS backbone. I have followed the instructions in the "Demystifying MPLS" paper ( http://2011.eurobsdcon.org/papers/jeker/MPLS.pdf), and on the following mailing list posts: http://old.na

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Re: Unbound

2012-05-21 Thread Dan Harnett
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 03:30:49PM -0400, Geoff Steckel wrote: > My site needs both split horizon and pretty complete authoritative support. > Does anyone have suggestions about BIND replacement(s) for this scenario? > Right now BIND works for me (for some value of "works".) > > One machine servin

Re: adjfreq() question

2012-05-21 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Alan Corey wrote: > Can adjfreq() adjust the frequency of the real time clock that runs when > the computer is turned off or is it just the clock within the operating > system? The latter. > I just ported chu by William Rossi and I'm wondering if adjfreq might be a > workaround for not havin

Re: routeuvm_fault panic while starting LDPd

2012-05-21 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 08:19:58PM -0300, Rafael Zalamena wrote: > While I was configuring a new ALIX to my MPLS setup a panic ocurred > while starting LDPd daemon. > > Steps: > 1. Configure all interfaces using /etc/hostname.*, then run 'sh > /etc/netstart' > 2. Configure ospfd.conf, then start i

Re: Unbound

2012-05-21 Thread Chris Smith
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Geoff Steckel wrote: > My site needs both split horizon and pretty complete authoritative support. > Does anyone have suggestions about BIND replacement(s) for this scenario? NSD for authoritative and Unbound (both from NLnet Labs of Amsterdam) for caching resolve

Re: bgpd Route Distinguisher problem

2012-05-21 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 02:58:50PM +0200, Hendrik Meyburgh wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem where the default install of 5.1 does not import routes into > the rdomain solely based on the community but it uses the route > distinguisher. > > This causes the below scenario: > > in bgpd.conf > rdom

Re: BGP keeps quitting of its own accord

2012-05-21 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 11:19:11AM +, Matt Hamilton wrote: > Hi All, > I've recently setup up a series of 6 OpenBSD boxes all running 5.1/amd64 > and connected together via an HP switch. The all run ospfd and bgpd. > They each connect out to different external networks and most speak BGP >

Re: Unbound

2012-05-21 Thread Geoff Steckel
On 05/20/2012 10:49 PM, Nick Holland wrote: On 05/20/12 17:49, David Diggles wrote: Ok, I am interested in opinions on why one should migrate from BIND to unbound? 1) It is unlikely there will be any more updates to BIND9 in OpenBSD base install. 2) It is even more unlikely that the comedyfest

adjfreq() question

2012-05-21 Thread Alan Corey
Can adjfreq() adjust the frequency of the real time clock that runs when the computer is turned off or is it just the clock within the operating system? I just ported chu by William Rossi and I'm wondering if adjfreq might be a workaround for not having Linux's Timex. I've only had it running

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2012-05-21 Thread Chris Smith
Running -current (updated 5/19/12) and saw these entries today: = pf: pfi_table_update: cannot set 1 new addresses into table fxp1:0: 12 pf: pfi_table_update: cannot set 1 new addresses into table fxp1:network: 12 pf: pfi_table_update: cannot set 1 new addres

Tuning for pppoe over fibre 30M/1M link

2012-05-21 Thread David Diggles
Now I'm all upgraded to 5.1 I'm very happy with it all, other than a few minor issues, most notably: I am still getting 300 kilobytes/second download speed with OpenBSD pppoe, however when I plug directly into a Mac and run pppoe on it, 3 megabytes/second. What should I look at for tuning t

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bgpd Route Distinguisher problem

2012-05-21 Thread Hendrik Meyburgh
Hi, I have a problem where the default install of 5.1 does not import routes into the rdomain solely based on the community but it uses the route distinguisher. This causes the below scenario: in bgpd.conf rdomain 2 { descr "Testing" rd 65001:238 import-target rt 65001:23

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BGP keeps quitting of its own accord

2012-05-21 Thread Matt Hamilton
Hi All, I've recently setup up a series of 6 OpenBSD boxes all running 5.1/amd64 and connected together via an HP switch. The all run ospfd and bgpd. They each connect out to different external networks and most speak BGP to external peers. I keep seeing bgpd just quitting of its own accord.

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Re: Antimalware for server mail and filesystems protect

2012-05-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-05-20, Ralph Ellis wrote: > Clamav is the most easily available antimalware for OpenBSD. I would > also take a look at F-Prot for OpenBSD workstations or servers. > > http://www.f-prot.com/download/corporate/ > > I have read some reviews that F-Prot has a higher identification rate > fo

Re: unbound

2012-05-21 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-05-20, Norman Golisz wrote: > On Sun May 20 2012 12:08, bofh wrote: >> Ooo! If you have time, for the great unwashed masses, if you could >> tell us what are the things we need to do in 5.1 to get this going, >> that'd be greatly appreciated. > > # pkg_add -vi unbound Agreed, for 5.1 you