Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
2012/6/1 Tyler Morgan tyl...@tradetech.net: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#LargeDrive That doesn't mention GPT, which is the problem with drives 2TB. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table Can OpenBSD already boot from a 4TB drive on an UEFI system? Try to buy systems

Re: llround(), round() broken?

2012-06-04 Thread Ville Valkonen
On 4 June 2012 05:55, Alan Corey alan01...@gmail.com wrote: They probably aren't broken, looks like I need to link in some library. B I get undefined reference to when I try to compile/link. B Shouldn't this be mentioned in the man page? B Alan /* B test of llround() round(), fails under

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Re: ospf broken on trunk interfaces?

2012-06-04 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 03:02:36PM -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 05:12:19PM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote: Is this after a reload of the config or does this also happen when you restart ospfd? It was after a config reload, after following Stuart's suggestion to

Re: llround(), round() broken?

2012-06-04 Thread Anthony J. Bentley
Alan Corey writes: They probably aren't broken, looks like I need to link in some library. I get undefined reference to when I try to compile/link. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the man page? FreeBSD has a Library section in its man page: LIBRARY Math Library (libm, -lm) I recall

Re: apmd closes/crashes on lid close

2012-06-04 Thread Robert Connolly
Sometimes apmd crashes from a system suspend, and sometimes it does not. Sometimes xidle runs xlock, and sometimes it does not. Sometimes xlock asks for a password, and sometimes it does not. Can anyone tell me whether they have all of these working consistently and reliably? They were not

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
Of course, it isn't /quite/ that simple. GPT is still fairly new, and whilst it's not too difficult to get a number of operating systems to boot from GPT, sharing a disk has a number of gotchas. Exposing dormant OpenBSD partitions to an untrusted OS is stupid unless you have no other choice like

Re: apmd closes/crashes on lid close

2012-06-04 Thread Robert Connolly
xset dpms 5 10 15 isn't doing anything either, nor xset s 4. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Robert Connolly robertconnolly1...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes apmd crashes from a system suspend, and sometimes it does not. Sometimes xidle runs xlock, and sometimes it does not. Sometimes xlock

Re: apmd closes/crashes on lid close

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
dump xset -q and wsconsctl -a, compare working/non-working states, check for possible race condition? -- p xset dpms 5 10 15 isn't doing anything either, nor xset s 4. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Robert Connolly robertconnolly1...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes apmd crashes from a system

Business Leadership Project

2012-06-04 Thread Bethenny Schaffer
Hi there, I wanted to follow up with you about an email I sent a couple weeks ago regarding a resource I had written primarily aimed at business professionals and those with an interest in the business world. The research project provides a comprehensive overview of various business sectors,

Re: basic smtpd question

2012-06-04 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 03:02:46PM +0200, Christopher Zimmermann wrote: [...] Relay how? Using smarthost? Possibly password protected? Then you need something like this: map secrets { source db /etc/mail/secrets.db } accept from ... for all relay via smarthost tls auth secrets

Re: spamd-setup fails from cron

2012-06-04 Thread David Diggles
Ok; After running that a few days, it works fine, but... the interval between updates is all over the place. I rewrote it, to only change the sleep value under 2 circumstances: First time run, or after a failure. Now it's updating hourly again. I will not make the same mistake of posting it

spamd(8) more persistent blacklisting

2012-06-04 Thread Boudewijn Dijkstra
Hello folks, Here's a suggested improvement to spamd(8) that keeps blacklisted entries tarpitted while they keep trying. Rationale: often blacklists like uatraps will remove hosts because they have stopped trying there, but will continue elsewhere. If your host is 'elsewhere', and a

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Norman Golisz
On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote: UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present itself as defender of freedom, but it's really an evolution of PCs running black-box code when and where it can do most harm. In fact, RH betrayed the OSS community by not

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 12:16:26AM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 01:39:18PM +0200, Tobias Ulmer said that these must be some really nice disks :] for example only a 200G slice (also 64k/8k) of music/film/picture collection (not even full yet) on a

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote: UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present itself as defender of freedom I meant that sarcastically -- p

SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread David Diggles
I was just thinking surely resending from a different IP breaks the RFC for SMTP? Then I did some googling, and found this. http://bsdly.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/ietf-failed-to-account-for-greylisting.html Thanks, Peter. So now it is 4 years later, has anything happened?

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Norman Golisz
On Mon Jun 4 2012 11:46, Peter Laufenberg wrote: On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote: UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present itself as defender of freedom I meant that sarcastically Sure you did. I just wanted to highlight this point even more.

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Laufenberg
On Mon Jun 4 2012 08:16, Peter Laufenberg wrote: UEFI has gotten more press, and given RH an opportunity to present itself as defender of freedom, but it's really an evolution of PCs running black-box code when and where it can do most harm. In fact, RH betrayed the OSS community It's not

metamail broken, lynx ignores mailcap

2012-06-04 Thread scire
Are these problems known? Lynx ignores mailcap even after uncommenting PERSONAL_MAILCAP:.mailcap metamail makes Segmentation fault (core dumped). Do someone know an alternative to metamail? Rod.

Re: apmd closes/crashes on lid close

2012-06-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-06-04, Robert Connolly robertconnolly1...@gmail.com wrote: Sometimes apmd crashes from a system suspend, and sometimes it does not. Sometimes xidle runs xlock, and sometimes it does not. Sometimes xlock asks for a password, and sometimes it does not. Can anyone tell me whether they

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-06-04, David Diggles da...@elven.com.au wrote: I was just thinking surely resending from a different IP breaks the RFC for SMTP? Then I did some googling, and found this. http://bsdly.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/ietf-failed-to-account-for-greylisting.html Thanks, Peter. So now it is

Re: ddb prompt on formerly stable system (4.9)

2012-06-04 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2012-06-04, ted@comcast.net ted@comcast.net wrote: This morning (before I came to work), I noticed the system wasn't responding.B I went to the basement, got out my really old laptop as a serial console, and noticed the system was giving a ddb prompt. Just for kicks, I reboo ted,

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread David Diggles
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 12:34:04PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2012-06-04, David Diggles da...@elven.com.au wrote: I was just thinking surely resending from a different IP breaks the RFC for SMTP? Then I did some googling, and found this.

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 22:53:54 +1000 David Diggles wrote: Greylisting will cause longer delivery delays if the sender has a large infrastructure and is sending from a different IP when it retries. Most pooling Services like Yahoo and Google seem to get through eventually these days without

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote: GPT is a foregone conclusion unless you are blind to the future. The only alternative is OS specific disk hackery, and that does no-one any favours. Well, OpenBSD/i386 (and now /amd64) has used such hackery since the very beginning and doesn't fare

Re: llround(), round() broken?

2012-06-04 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 12:37:07AM -0600, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: Alan Corey writes: They probably aren't broken, looks like I need to link in some library. I get undefined reference to when I try to compile/link. Shouldn't this be mentioned in the man page? FreeBSD has a Library

Re: OpenBSD mailing lists demime in an ascii world

2012-06-04 Thread Simon Perreault
On 2012-06-02 13:19, JC)rC)mie CourrC(ges-Anglas wrote: As you'll see in my signature above, 8 bit characters are mangled on OpenBSD mailing lists. Not that I care much, but passing the demime perl script a ''-8'' argument would be enough to solve that (if that is desired). AFAIK SMTP without

Re: (Kinda O.T.) Digital Millennium Copyright Act used to censor hardware specifications

2012-06-04 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Steve Shockley [steve.shock...@shockley.net] wrote: We Americans have to enjoy the bars, there's not much left to do besides drink. There's always bath salts and eating off homeless people's faces.

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread Simon Perreault
On 2012-06-04 06:06, David Diggles wrote: I was just thinking surely resending from a different IP breaks the RFC for SMTP? Then I did some googling, and found this. http://bsdly.blogspot.com.au/2008/10/ietf-failed-to-account-for-greylisting.html Not only is greylisting fine from a protocol

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca writes: Not only is greylisting fine from a protocol point of view (as others have pointed out), the IETF is also well aware of it. This is about to become an RFC: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting That's a marked

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
Not only is greylisting fine from a protocol point of view (as others have pointed out), the IETF is also well aware of it. This is about to become an RFC: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-appsawg-greylisting That's a marked improvement over what appeared to be the status only a

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org writes: it is still false to say that greylisting wasn't permitted by the original RFC's. it was, and it is. Any reasonable interpretation (IMO) of the relevant parts of RFC5321 and RFC2821 means that greylisting is well within the protocol specs. That

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Peter Kay
On 4 June 2012 15:06, Christian Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de wrote: Peter Kay syllops...@syllopsium.co.uk wrote: GPT is a foregone conclusion unless you are blind to the future. The only alternative is OS specific disk hackery, and that does no-one any favours. Well, OpenBSD/i386 (and

Re: Large (3TB) HDD support

2012-06-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
I don't have a particular issue with most of the disk hackery that OpenBSD currently performs, but the key detail is that at least under x86, powermac and sgi platforms [1] it seems to work within the boundaries of the native disk partitioning by using a custom disk format, performing custom

Re: SMTP server pools at odds with the RFC?

2012-06-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org writes: it is still false to say that greylisting wasn't permitted by the original RFC's. it was, and it is. Any reasonable interpretation (IMO) of the relevant parts of RFC5321 and RFC2821 means that greylisting is well within the protocol

Preferred method for tracking src with git?

2012-06-04 Thread Matthew Dempsky
What's considered the current 'best practice' for following OpenBSD src with git? I'm interested in trying out git for managing my growing list of pending/WIP patches for the src tree, but there seem to be a bunch of options and I don't know if there's any preference between them. It looks like

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Re: OpenBSD mailing lists demime in an ascii world

2012-06-04 Thread Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
Simon Perreault simon.perrea...@viagenie.ca writes: On 2012-06-02 13:19, JC)rC)mie CourrC(ges-Anglas wrote: ^^ ^^ ^^ As you'll see in my signature above, 8 bit characters are mangled on OpenBSD mailing lists. Not that I care much, but passing the demime perl

EUSecWest 2012 - Amsterdam, Sept 19/20 featuring Mobile PWN2OWN - CFP Deadline June 15

2012-06-04 Thread Dragos Ruiu
EUSecWest 2012, Amsterdam, September 19/20, Featuring Mobile PWN2OWN CALL FOR PAPERS - Deadline June 15 2012 AMSTERDAM, Nederland -- The seventh annual EUSecWest applied technical security conference - where the eminent figures in the international security industry get together share

Re: Preferred method for tracking src with git?

2012-06-04 Thread joshua stein
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 at 12:52:47 -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote: It looks like ustuehler and jcs both wrote their own cvs-to-git importers for handling the OpenBSD src tree: https://github.com/ustuehler/git-cvs https://github.com/jcs/bigcvs2git Both will convert HEAD properly, but neither has

Re: llround(), round() broken?

2012-06-04 Thread Alan Corey
man intro (3) comes close in OpenBSD (I did man -k libraries to find it) It just seems like if a function requires a special library that should be mentioned in the function's man page as well as the header file since it needs both to work. I guess it depends on how surprised you are that the

Re: llround(), round() broken?

2012-06-04 Thread Theo de Raadt
This seems to come up most often regarding the math functions. Which Unix system doesn't require -lm for those math functions? man intro (3) comes close in OpenBSD (I did man -k libraries to find it) It just seems like if a function requires a special library that should be mentioned in the

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Re: llround(), round() broken?

2012-06-04 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 20:40, Theo de Raadt wrote: This seems to come up most often regarding the math functions. Which Unix system doesn't require -lm for those math functions? I think these people have no experience writing any C and OpenBSD is the first place they've tried it. Trying to

No audio on auvia0 / VIA VT8233 AC97

2012-06-04 Thread Brett
Hi, I've gotten an old computer and installed OpenBSD on it, to act as a media player. The problem is I have no sound. First attempt was i386-current, 2nd attempt was amd64-5.1. There are 2 audio minijack outputs, one from the sound ports attached to motherboard, the other is a plug leading