Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Jay Patel
HEHEHEHE someone from time to time posts like this without any references and links if you can prove there's backdoor. i will remove OpenBSD. prove it nut head. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thomas Jennings thomas.jennings...@gmail.com wrote: Dear OpenBSD developers and users:

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Luca Ferrari
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Thomas Jennings thomas.jennings...@gmail.com wrote: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD Uhm...and I guess OpenBSD is feeling the same for abandoning you ;)! I believe people, from time to time, should try to read source code and track the development.

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread James Griffin
Thu 4.Jul'13 at 23:56:50 -0400, Thomas Jennings Dear OpenBSD developers and users: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a good date to do so since my reasons

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread eric oyen
Sighted assistance. It simply means that I am blind (as in I wear prosthetic eyes and can't see a thing). I can use most of my equipment here with either some screen reader access or braille. Unfortunately, that can't be said for installation and first time configuration of OpenBSD (the man

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Marko Cupać
I find it sad that it is now third day that noone responded to my call for help with system hang, at least something like ask on bugs list, while threads like this get 15 responses in a matter of hours :(

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread opendaddy
On 5. juli 2013 at 6:49 AM, Luca Ferrari fluca1...@infinito.it wrote: Uhm...and I guess OpenBSD is feeling the same for abandoning you ;)! I believe people, from time to time, should try to read source code and track the development. It will remove this stupid messages. No it won't. Stop

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Greg Thomas
Nice parody of something, I don't know what though. Replace OpenBSD with Cisco and Windows and it makes sense. Anyway, I've never seen where Sharyl Attkisson said she uses OpenBSD, and it's highly unlikely that she does judging from the network reporters I know. OpenBSD has shipped on over half

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread John Long
On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 11:56:50PM -0400, Thomas Jennings wrote: [drug / alcohol withdrawal-induced rant elided] I don't know where you get the idea OpenBSD is involved. I heard a few interviews including the one here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISXYITh09TA and she clearly said she has an

Re: Fuse on OpenBSD

2013-07-05 Thread Martin Schröder
2013/7/4 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de: * openda...@hushmail.com openda...@hushmail.com [2013-07-04 05:09]: Why do we need FUSE anyway? it's a firewall between filesystem code written by people who It's also a firewall for licenses. Best Martin

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread David Coppa
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 10:46 AM, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 11:56:50PM -0400, Thomas Jennings wrote: [drug / alcohol withdrawal-induced rant elided] I don't know where you get the idea OpenBSD is involved. I heard a few interviews including the one here

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Dmitrij Czarkoff
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Thomas Jennings thomas.jennings...@gmail.com wrote: CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio interview, that she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone issues. Check out this snippet from the full transcript of the interview.

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread jV
Why you keep feeding troll guys ??

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Eric Furman
Please stop do not reply this is an annual event. Every year an email is sent with this same subject. It might be slightly beleivabele if it did not devovle into ad hominem attackes on Theo. Yes, Theo is an asshole. but that is irelelevant. Most geniuses are assholes. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013, at

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi James, James Griffin wrote: Thu 4.Jul'13 at 23:56:50 -0400, Thomas Jennings Dear OpenBSD developers and users: Regretfully, I have decided to abandon OpenBSD and thought I would share my reasoning with this list. I thought the 4th of July was a good date to

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-05 Thread Todd T. Fries
Penned by Andy on 20130704 9:25.40, we have: | On Thu 04 Jul 2013 15:22:55 BST, Anders Berggren wrote: | I'd rather not have to create extra tunnels or define VPN policies with subnets which have prefixes wider than the internal LANs. | That leaves mangling, but I cannot see how I would do the

Re: IPSec VPNs when traffic originates from a daemon on the OBSD firewall

2013-07-05 Thread Andy
I don't know why, but for some reason it just didn't occur to me that doing that would set the source IP but of course it would. Hand - Face slap! ;) Thanks :) On Fri 05 Jul 2013 11:51:39 BST, Todd T. Fries wrote: Penned by Andy on 20130704 9:25.40, we have: | On Thu 04 Jul 2013 15:22:55

Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5

2013-07-05 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello guys, Thursday, July 4, 2013, 12:40:50 PM, Nick Holland wrote: If the softraid is so raw yet, why the old good RAIDFrame was removed starting the 5.2? It works just fine for me. Big volumes rebuilds take a long while, but it's something working. NH That's quite a leap from RAID 5 is

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 09:58:50AM +0100, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 4:56 AM, Thomas Jennings thomas.jennings...@gmail.com wrote: CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio interview, that she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone

Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5

2013-07-05 Thread Tony Abernethy
It works. Translation: It has worked (mostly) for me. (A few times) (Seems like Theo has a good quote about gcc) Boris Goldberg wrote: Hello guys, Thursday, July 4, 2013, 12:40:50 PM, Nick Holland wrote: If the softraid is so raw yet, why the old good RAIDFrame was removed starting the

Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1

2013-07-05 Thread MK2
# pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive Adjusting sha for

Re: softraid: adding volumes, CPU requirements, RAID5

2013-07-05 Thread Boris Goldberg
Hello Tony, Friday, July 5, 2013, 10:09:37 AM, you wrote: TA It works. TA Translation: TA It has worked (mostly) for me. (A few times) Don't try to translate from the language you don't understand. It's in production on more than a few servers now, and has been for more than ten years. --

Re: Softraid performance: CRYPTO on top of RAID 1?

2013-07-05 Thread Joel Sing
On Thu, 4 Jul 2013, Jiri B wrote: On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 02:33:51AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: [...snip...] FWIW one of my servers (handles mail, etc) is a Sun Fire V210 (sparc64) machine with 2x1GHz CPU, 2GB RAM and a pair of SCSI drives - it runs perfectly well in a similar CRYPTO on RAID 1

Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1

2013-07-05 Thread Jean Lucas
On 07/05/2013 11:14 AM, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]: Premature end of archive

Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1

2013-07-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 01:14:01AM +1000, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]:

Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1

2013-07-05 Thread MK2
Jean Lucas wrote: On 07/05/2013 11:14 AM, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/ gettext-tools.mo]:

Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1

2013-07-05 Thread MK2
Marc Espie wrote: On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 01:14:01AM +1000, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz][share/locale/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/

Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1

2013-07-05 Thread Jean Lucas
On 07/05/2013 12:34 PM, MK2 wrote: Jean Lucas wrote: On 07/05/2013 11:14 AM, MK2 wrote: # pkg_add http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/ amd64/gettext-0.18.2p1.tgz Fatal error: Ustar [http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.3/packages/

Re: Issue: pkg_add gettext-0.18.2p1

2013-07-05 Thread Josh Grosse
MK2 mk2 at freeweb.ozi.nu writes: Hi Marc, I just compared the file size on the FTP with the pkg file (downloaded with lynx) and they match. Still get the error with pkg_add file. Be sure to either unset $PKG_PATH or use pkg_add ./file, otherwise your $PKG_PATH variable will be used.

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread carlos albino garcia grijalba
Totally agree with Marko the same for me but i do make a mistake and the BAND a lot answers even theo answered to kick my ass! by the way dont u have some uvm_alloc situation on your server? Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 09:05:11 +0200 From: marko.cu...@mimar.rs To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Why

Re: Hang possibly related to pipex

2013-07-05 Thread Victor Camacho
On 7/3/2013 6:55 AM, Marko Cupać wrote: I have a machine that has been serving as NAT gateway and VPN server (both pptp/poptop and openvpn) since 5.0 without problems. On 5.2 I switched poptop to npppd compiled from sources and was very happy with it. With release of 5.3 I added second machine

ACPI support on HP laptop

2013-07-05 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, I am testing out OpenBSD on a second laptop I have. I just swapped in a HD I use on my ThinkPad. For the test, I run a stock 5.2 kernel or a 5.3 with the network card patch from Miod that Sebastian compiled for me. I have two, possibly related problems: - the fan runs always at full

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread Özgür Kazanççı
...to OpenBSD 5.3 when the news broke: CBS News reporter Sharyl Attkisson claimed, during a live radio interview, that she had been dealing with suspicious computer and phone issues... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vNOBBB5FgYt=51s On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Thomas Jennings

tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread patrick keshishian
Hi, Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 snapshot a couple of days ago. Immediately noticed that Shift+Return combination isn't being sent to the shell. I can't quite tell where/when this changed. Any ideas? --patrick

Problem with PowerEdge R420 (PERC H310 Mini and RAID5)

2013-07-05 Thread Kor son of Rynar
Hi, We have a few Dell PowerEdge R410 servers, with PERC H700 adapters and a RAID 5 setup. OpenBSD runs great on these servers. Recently, however, we got some new Dell PowerEdge R420 machines and we are experiencing problems. Those new machines came with a new RAID adapter, a PERC H310 Mini --

Re: Softraid performance: CRYPTO on top of RAID 1?

2013-07-05 Thread Erling Westenvik
On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 01:28:28AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: On Thu, 4 Jul 2013, Jiri B wrote: On Thu, Jul 04, 2013 at 02:33:51AM +1000, Joel Sing wrote: [...snip...] FWIW one of my servers (handles mail, etc) is a Sun Fire V210 (sparc64) machine with 2x1GHz CPU, 2GB RAM and a pair of SCSI

Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread Nicholas Marriott
What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me what it shows when you press Shift-Return. On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 03:42:39PM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: Hi, Was running 2013-FEB-12 amd64 snapshot. Installed 2013-JUN-27 amd64 snapshot a couple of days ago.

Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)

2013-07-05 Thread Nathan Goings
I just setup NFS, and have gotten it working with my Windows 7 machine. Basically, I'm working on a driver and want to use a graphical IDE. /etc/exports: # /usr -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37 -mask=255.255.255.0 /usr/src -maproot=root -alldirs -network=192.168.37

Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread patrick keshishian
Hi, On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Nicholas Marriott nicholas.marri...@gmail.com wrote: What did Shift-Return used to send? Run cat outside tmux and tell me what it shows when you press Shift-Return. Not sure what you mean by running cat outside tmux. Running `hexdump -C' (within xterm)

Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread Nicholas Marriott
Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as Return. This is because tmux now treats it as a separate key by turning on the xterm modifyOtherKeys feature. This means you can bind Return and Shift-Return separately

Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread patrick keshishian
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Nicholas Marriott nicholas.marri...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as Return. This is because tmux now treats it as a separate key by turning on the

Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)

2013-07-05 Thread Andres Perera
you want nested nfs mounts which nfsv3/2 can't provide the export is associated to the mount point, it won't cross device limits either put /usr/src in the same file system, or use another nfs host On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Nathan Goings binarysp...@binaryspike.com wrote: I just setup

Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread patrick keshishian
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Nicholas Marriott nicholas.marri...@gmail.com wrote: Ok so Return and Shift-Return never did anything different, you are just wondering why Shift-Return no longer sends the same as

Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread Andres Perera
according to key_string_set_modifiers() in key-string.c, :bind-key -n s-enter send-key enter On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:56 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Nicholas

Re: tmux and Shift+Return combination

2013-07-05 Thread patrick keshishian
On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Andres Perera andre...@zoho.com wrote: according to key_string_set_modifiers() in key-string.c, :bind-key -n s-enter send-key enter thank you kind sir! --patrick On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 9:13 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 5, 2013

Re: Why I abandoned OpenBSD, and why you should too...

2013-07-05 Thread P. Pruett
OH MY - did not know it was TROLL hunting season... SO Like I heard a rumor that FaceBook is going to release an open source operating system because we all know how secure from NSA it will be... LMAO feed the trolls. On 7/5/2013 12:14 AM, Ryan R wrote: Dear OpenBSD developers and

Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)

2013-07-05 Thread Nathan Goings
On 7/5/2013 7:33 PM, Andres Perera wrote: you want nested nfs mounts which nfsv3/2 can't provide the export is associated to the mount point, it won't cross device limits either put /usr/src in the same file system, or use another nfs host Thanks! I think for now, I'll just export

Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)

2013-07-05 Thread Andres Perera
to complete what i said, you *should* be able to mount /usr and then /usr/src, so yes that indeed seems like crazy things in windows however you also had another expectation (which i also had when starting with nfs): that nfs mounting /usr would recursively mount contained exports On Fri, Jul 5,

Re: Handling nested partition mounts with NFS (/usr/src)

2013-07-05 Thread Nathan Goings
On 7/5/2013 8:50 PM, Andres Perera wrote: so yes that indeed seems like crazy things in windows The documentation says to send a HUP signal to mountd to reload the changes in /etc/exports. However, after making changes, I am still able to mount *and* open files from entries I removed in