Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-18 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 09:44:08PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > Probably not, because if I remove all my .x* files > and keep just the .Xdefaults -> .Xresources which > specifies the UTF8 locale for xterm, the same thing > happens in (the default) fvwm. Namely, > the xterm started by default has XTERM

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 06:58:07PM -0700, Andy Bradford wrote: > Thus said Chris Cappuccio on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:09:38 -0800: > > > aren't there plenty of simple pre-processor scripts that people are > > using with lp to turn whatever into some output for simple dumb > > printers? CUPS

Get detailed keyboard input on OpenBSD, without depending on X

2016-02-18 Thread Henrique N. Lengler
Hi misc, I am writing some code. My program will need detailed keyboard input, like key press and key release. I know I can get this setup with X (SDL too, which depends on X), but since I don't necessarily need a GUI, it wouldn't be cool opening a window just to get the keyboard. I read on the

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Chris Cappuccio on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 17:09:38 -0800: > aren't there plenty of simple pre-processor scripts that people are > using with lp to turn whatever into some output for simple dumb > printers? CUPS is so annoying and stupid, it's not even funny Perhaps apsfilter? Andy

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Cappuccio
gwes [g...@oat.com] wrote: > > I just created and will submit to ports a version > of ghostscript which doesn't pull in cups - it > turns out the configuration has a switch for that case. > aren't there plenty of simple pre-processor scripts that people are using with lp to turn whatever into so

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-18 Thread mark hellewell
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 at 07:49 Jan Stary wrote: > Why is that? Am I missing something obvious? > What happens if you launch terminals using the `uxterm` shell script? Mark Jan

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread gwes
On 02/18/2016 16:33, Chris Bennett wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 04:10:06PM -0500, gwes wrote: . They don't do dynamic autoconfiguration. In an industrial environment autoconfiguration can be very bad. (examples like directing confidential output somewhere unexpected) I haven't looked at th

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-18 Thread lists
Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:44:08 +0100 Jan Stary > > My .Xdefaults is a symlink to .Xresources > > and .xsession is a symlink to .xinitrc. > > Why is that? Am I missing something obvious? $ grep xrdb .xinitrc [[ -f ~/.Xresources ]] && xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources [[ -f ~/.Xdefaults ]] && xrdb -merge ~/.Xde

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Bennett
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 04:10:06PM -0500, gwes wrote: > I'm not sure what measure of "better" you're trying to apply. > > lpr et al. don't have a GUI. One could be wrapped around them. > I personally wouldn't want that. Others have said that cups provides nice information for printers in other a

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread gwes
On 02/17/2016 12:49, Chris Bennett wrote: After reading up on printers in use, I discovered that there is significant use of line printers due to their very low cost of consumables, production of a very long lasting output, unlike laser/thermal/inkjet printers and high reliability. Is anyone usi

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread gwes
On 02/17/2016 12:49, Chris Bennett wrote: After reading up on printers in use, I discovered that there is significant use of line printers due to their very low cost of consumables, production of a very long lasting output, unlike laser/thermal/inkjet printers and high reliability. Is anyone usi

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Roderick
On Wed, 17 Feb 2016, Tobias Ulmer wrote: No really, it is outdated beyond rescue. If you want to write a new print job queueing system, sure, have fun. Maybe you can come up with a 'cups' that doesn't suck? Well, let me say my opinion. I think BSD and Unix is also "outdated beyond rescue", bu

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-18 Thread Jan Stary
> My .Xdefaults is a symlink to .Xresources > and .xsession is a symlink to .xinitrc. > > But that's not it - my .xsession (-> .xinitrc) _is_ processed, > because cwm is launched, as opposed to the default fvwm. > And my .Xresources (= .Xdefaults) _is_ loaded, because > the xterms I start from the

Re: startx vs xdm

2016-02-18 Thread Jan Stary
On Feb 16 19:50:57, h...@stare.cz wrote: > On Feb 16 11:49:58, erling.westen...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:32:05AM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote: > > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:15:58AM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > > > > There seems to be a difference between an X session > > > >

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Roderich
On Thu, 17 Feb 2016, Andy Bradford wrote: Anyway, just some musings. Is there anyone else out there using lpr/lpd/lprm from base? Maybe I'm the only one? I never used something else. And if I install a package that bloats my system with cups as dependency, I delete immediatly the pac

IPsec config with dynamic IP.

2016-02-18 Thread Christopher Sean Hilton
I have an IPSec VPN endpoint running on OpenBSD on a cable modem. Technically it has a dynamic IP but in practice the IP only changes about once every 3 ~ 5 years. I run ddclient on the OpenBSD box to maintain the dns name of the box so I can find it and that's working well. My ipsec configuration

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread patrick keshishian
On 2/17/16, Andy Bradford wrote: > Anyway, just some musings. Is there anyone else out there using > lpr/lpd/lprm from base? Maybe I'm the only one? yep. been using it for many years with many different HP and Brother network printers. --patrick

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-18 Thread Peter Hessler
Please take this offline. On 2016 Feb 18 (Thu) at 06:26:21 +0200 (+0200), li...@wrant.com wrote: :Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:12:58 -0500 Eric Furman :> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:10 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: :> > Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman :> > > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lis

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-18 Thread lists
Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD! Better, influence highly skilled programmers, friends, colleagues, partners, clients, the wide public, classmates, coeds, teachers, book authors and everyone important of the truly

Re: Is true that the BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them?

2016-02-18 Thread lists
Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:12:58 -0500 Eric Furman > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016, at 09:10 PM, li...@wrant.com wrote: > > Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:36:35 -0500 Eric Furman > > > Now I'm off to the GNU & Linux lists to spread the gospel of OpenBSD! > ^^^

Re: general xdg-open configuration

2016-02-18 Thread Jiri B
On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 04:15:50PM +, Mike Burns wrote: > On 2016-02-18 17.11.03 +0100, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > > I appear to need to modify the default application used > > by xdg-open to open a file directory. The man page of xdg-open > > is not very helpful. Can anybody tell me what is the ri

Re: current status of octeon support

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Holger Glaess [gla...@glaessixs.de] wrote: > > Holger Glaess [gla...@glaessixs.de] wrote: > >> hi > >> > >> can some tell me what the status is for 5.9 octeon port ? > >> > >> is the usb port stable enough to handle an harddisk ? > > > > Yes although there may be more speed optimization possible >

Re: general xdg-open configuration

2016-02-18 Thread Mike Burns
On 2016-02-18 17.11.03 +0100, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > I appear to need to modify the default application used > by xdg-open to open a file directory. The man page of xdg-open > is not very helpful. Can anybody tell me what is the right > and general (I run fvwm) system-wide file on openbsd to edit?

general xdg-open configuration

2016-02-18 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, I appear to need to modify the default application used by xdg-open to open a file directory. The man page of xdg-open is not very helpful. Can anybody tell me what is the right and general (I run fvwm) system-wide file on openbsd to edit? Thanks Ruda

Re: How to tune network on Qemu-system-i386

2016-02-18 Thread Daniel Wilkins
Not as far as I can tell. It'd be via vmm if you can, so your options would be openbsd or netbsd, neither quickly from what I've heard. On Thu Feb 18 01:39:13 2016 GMT-0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Does hardware accelerated Qemu work on OpenBSD now? It didn't at the > end of 2014. > > Thanks, > > S

Re: dhcrelay: send_packet: No buffer space available

2016-02-18 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 18/02/16 13:22, Peter Hessler wrote: On 2016 Feb 18 (Thu) at 12:25:07 +0200 (+0200), Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: :On 12/02/16 18:56, Stuart Henderson wrote: :>On 2016-02-12, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: :>>Hi, :>> :>>I have a carped firewall which is using dhcrelay to forward dhcp :>>requests to

Re: Industrial use of line printers, does/would your company/organization use them with our lpd?

2016-02-18 Thread Marc Peters
Am 02/18/16 um 06:28 schrieb Andy Bradford: > > Anyway, just some musings. Is there anyone else out there using > lpr/lpd/lprm from base? Maybe I'm the only one? > > Thanks, > > Andy > I've connected a Kyocera FS-920 to my router and all hosts (*bsd, mac, win) do their printing on it

Re: How to tune network on Qemu-system-i386

2016-02-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2016-02-18, Steve Litt wrote: > Does hardware accelerated Qemu work on OpenBSD now? It didn't at the > end of 2014. Not at present, no.

Re: dhcrelay: send_packet: No buffer space available

2016-02-18 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2016 Feb 18 (Thu) at 12:25:07 +0200 (+0200), Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: :On 12/02/16 18:56, Stuart Henderson wrote: :>On 2016-02-12, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: :>>Hi, :>> :>>I have a carped firewall which is using dhcrelay to forward dhcp :>>requests to another carped dhcp server. :>>After upgr

Re: current status of octeon support

2016-02-18 Thread Holger Glaess
> Holger Glaess [gla...@glaessixs.de] wrote: >> hi >> >> can some tell me what the status is for 5.9 octeon port ? >> >> is the usb port stable enough to handle an harddisk ? > > Yes although there may be more speed optimization possible > > hi what about the hardware acceleration functions of an

Re: dhcrelay: send_packet: No buffer space available

2016-02-18 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 12/02/16 18:56, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2016-02-12, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: Hi, I have a carped firewall which is using dhcrelay to forward dhcp requests to another carped dhcp server. After upgrade to Feb 4 snapshot I'm seeing these in my logs: What version were you running before?