Re: spamDB - blacklist mode

2020-03-02 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Tue, Mar 03, 2020 at 04:46:11AM +, s...@skolma.com wrote: > Boudewijn, > Thank you for your reply, and clarification. > > The man pages for SPAMD and SPAMDB do not directly state this relationship / > behavior, and therefore I had made the assumption that spamd would capture > and feed al

Re: 6.6, X and braswell

2020-03-02 Thread Martin Ziemer
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 09:45:26PM +0100, whistlez...@riseup.net wrote: > Hi, > I have the following bug: > https://marc.info/?t=15636262941&r=1&w=2 > now I'm on 6.5 and it works, but maybe one month ago I tried to install > 6.6 and I found the bug. > Anyone know if it was been resolved ? > Tha

Re: spamDB - blacklist mode

2020-03-02 Thread sub
Boudewijn, Thank you for your reply, and clarification. The man pages for SPAMD and SPAMDB do not directly state this relationship / behavior, and therefore I had made the assumption that spamd would capture and feed all entries into the spamdb, in all operational modes. ..hopefully i have not o

Re: upgrade i386 kernel to amd64

2020-03-02 Thread Nick Holland
On 2020-03-02 18:14, Justin Muir wrote: > Hello all, > > Running GENERIC i386 kernel on on a 64-bit amd machine. Just wondering > whether an upgrade amd64 is warranted. Any opinions? yes. At this point, most OpenBSD development starts on amd64 systems, then moves to other platforms. Plus, the AM

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
> I have no idea what the "much more" refers to. all the things i can do with vim are very useful while reading a man page. * a file is mentionned ? use gf to jump in it * a command is provided? edit it so it fit your system and run it with !! * want to add something to your notes? ranges to th

Re: upgrade i386 kernel to amd64

2020-03-02 Thread Bryan Irvine
backup your important files, format and re-install. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 5:16 PM Justin Muir wrote: > Hello all, > > Running GENERIC i386 kernel on on a 64-bit amd machine. Just wondering > whether an upgrade amd64 is warranted. Any opinions? > > If so, just upgrade system? Re-compile kernel?

upgrade i386 kernel to amd64

2020-03-02 Thread Justin Muir
Hello all, Running GENERIC i386 kernel on on a 64-bit amd machine. Just wondering whether an upgrade amd64 is warranted. Any opinions? If so, just upgrade system? Re-compile kernel? Other options? tia! J

RE: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread zeurkous
Haai, "Ingo Schwarze" wrote: >[about a flag to make mandoc(1) omit backspace stuff:] > In 2014, i already wrote a patch to do that because the question > came up repeatedly. But demand wasn't that high after all, so i > never committed it. Now, i updated the patch to -current, see > below. Medoe

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
dear Ingo, > Absolutely. Using web searches for software documentation is an > awkward and error-prone crutch that should be avoided for many > reasons. For OpenBSD documentation, it is never needed. Actually, the quality of the manpages was one of the reasons i tried openbsd and one of the rea

6.6, X and braswell

2020-03-02 Thread whistlez-ml
Hi, I have the following bug: https://marc.info/?t=15636262941&r=1&w=2 now I'm on 6.5 and it works, but maybe one month ago I tried to install 6.6 and I found the bug. Anyone know if it was been resolved ? Thanks Whistlez

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Hiltjo Posthuma
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 06:25:47PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi, > > Marc Chantreux wrote on Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:49:31AM +0100: > > > coming from linux, i'm used to read manpages > > in a vi buffer so i can do much more than > > reading the content. > > I have no idea what the "much more

simple script to merge faq files in a single html (was Re: Web documentation available offline by default?)

2020-03-02 Thread Vincenzo Nicosia
Please find attached a preliminary rough shell script that does the job for the faq[0-9]+.html files, keeping track of anchors appropriately. It is missing pf, ports, and other files, but it's a starting point. Disclaimer: this is unofficial stuff and I am not asking for this script to be supporte

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marc, Marc Chantreux wrote on Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 07:07:37PM +0100: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 12:06:42PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: >> Alternatively, have you tried using any web searches on this topic? > i have to admit i try to avoid the web for many reasons so i try to > stick to manpages,

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 12:06:42PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > Have you looked at: > man col > ? how can you come to the point to read the manpage of a command that doesn't seems to be related to your problem (i was searching something around the man input so i tried troff, mandoc, man,

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2020-03-02, Marc Chantreux wrote: > i felt dumb reading this as i gave a try to the mandoc man. but i just > double checked: > > man mandoc|col -b|grep -w col > > gives me nothing. $ man mandoc|col -b|grep -w col to col(1) -b instead. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Marc Chantreux wrote on Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:49:31AM +0100: > coming from linux, i'm used to read manpages > in a vi buffer so i can do much more than > reading the content. I have no idea what the "much more" refers to. The main effect is to lose tagging functionality. That is, compare

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Raul Miller
Have you looked at: man col ? (Especially for the -b option...) And, for that matter, have you looked at man col | cat -vet | less ? Alternatively, have you tried using any web searches on this topic? Thanks, -- Raul On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 12:01 PM Marc Chantreux wrote: > > hello, > >

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, > Try the mandoc manual page, man is just a front-end to it. Both > man/mandoc support -T option and you can specify ascii/utf8 to get the > formatted page but it still adds all escape sequences. indeed, that's why i asked > The documentation > says to pipe the output to col -b to suppres

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
> It's the designated tool for the job. That fmt also happens to > replace sequences character1-backspace-character2 with character2 > is more of a lucky coincidence. ok then ... good to know. so by extension: by design, there is no way to use the man command to render the text directly? regards,

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread David Demelier
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 11:49:31AM +0100, Marc Chantreux wrote: > hello, > > coming from linux, i'm used to read manpages > in a vi buffer so i can do much more than > reading the content. i basically use > > :r !man ls > or > !!sh (when the line content is "man ls") > > under openbs

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Marc Chantreux: > > > * is there a way to ask man to deliver pure (non-formatted) text ? > > Pipe its output through "col -b". > > what is the gain of using col over fmt ? It's the designated tool for the job. That fmt also happens to replace sequences character1-backspace-character2 with chara

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, > > * is there a way to ask man to deliver pure (non-formatted) text ? > Pipe its output through "col -b". what is the gain of using col over fmt ? > > * is there a way to introduce a | in vi macros? > Yes, by prefixing it with a ^V character. To enter ^V in vi's input > mode, press con

Re: man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Marc Chantreux: > * is there a way to ask man to deliver pure (non-formatted) text ? Pipe its output through "col -b". > * is there a way to introduce a | in vi macros? Yes, by prefixing it with a ^V character. To enter ^V in vi's input mode, press control-V twice. -- Christian "naddy" Weisg

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Ottavio Caruso
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 14:18, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 07:03:25AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > > If you find a way to do that in a way that does not break and require > > > manual > > > labor after each change to the source files, I'm sure your contributing > > >

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 07:03:25AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > If you find a way to do that in a way that does not break and require > > manual > > labor after each change to the source files, I'm sure your contributing > > the code back to the project would be appreciated. > > I'll say it a

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 03:36:02PM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > > > It's also a pity the the faq are not available in a single html or pdf > > format. This would be handy for those who, like me, are studying for > > the BSD Specialist certification. Having a sing

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 03:36:02PM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: > It's also a pity the the faq are not available in a single html or pdf > format. This would be handy for those who, like me, are studying for > the BSD Specialist certification. Having a single document makes it > easier to search

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Theo de Raadt
Vincenzo Nicosia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 01:30:02AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Besides, the FAQ only applies to -stable and not to -current, so > > installing it on a -current system would be badly misleading. > > And we certainly don't want the release(8) process

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Vincenzo Nicosia
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 07:41:56AM -0500, Ian Darwin wrote: [cut] > > How about if the people who want this would, instead of pitying the fact > that it's not available in the format you want, create a port (with a > build depends on wkthmltopdf) to generate the files. And keep the port > update

man to render pure text? (or a pipe in vi macros ?)

2020-03-02 Thread Marc Chantreux
hello, coming from linux, i'm used to read manpages in a vi buffer so i can do much more than reading the content. i basically use :r !man ls or !!sh (when the line content is "man ls") under openbsd, it seems man doesn't if stdout is a tty. i digged the man manual a little bit witho

Re: Server 5 SSD/best practice

2020-03-02 Thread Oliver Marugg
Hi Stuart, hi Nick Many thanks for your answers adn itnersting point you’ve mentioned about the raid levels, it really helped me thinking about the ssd config of that existent server. Greets Oliver On 21 Feb 2020, at 17:15, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2020-02-21, Nick Holland wrote: On 20

Re: CUPS sudden refuses to print after previously working fine - SOLVED

2020-03-02 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 02 Mar 2020, Vincenzo Nicosia wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 10:50:53AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > Well, I finally "solved" the problem by the simple expedient of just > > deleting the printer in Cups and reinstalling it from scratch. It > > then worked perfectl

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Ian Darwin
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 12:28:25PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > It's also a pity the the faq are not available in a single html or pdf > > format. This would be handy for those who, like me, are studying for > > the BSD Specialist certification. Having a single document makes it > > easier t

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Feb 29, 2020 at 03:36:02PM +, Ottavio Caruso wrote: It's also a pity the the faq are not available in a single html or pdf format. This would be handy for those who, like me, are studying for the BSD Specialist certification. Having a single document makes it easier to search for a s

Re: CUPS sudden refuses to print after previously working fine - SOLVED

2020-03-02 Thread Vincenzo Nicosia
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 10:50:53AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: [cut] > > > Well, I finally "solved" the problem by the simple expedient of just > deleting the printer in Cups and reinstalling it from scratch. It > then worked perfectly without doing anything else. Here is the > resulting /e

Re: CUPS sudden refuses to print after previously working fine - SOLVED

2020-03-02 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 01 Mar 2020, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 28 Feb 2020, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 28, 2020 at 08:28:52AM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > I have a networked Brother-HL5350DN printer which has worked fine > > > with CUPS for over a year. Two days ago it suddenly refused to > >

Re: Web documentation available offline by default?

2020-03-02 Thread Vincenzo Nicosia
On Mon, Mar 02, 2020 at 01:30:02AM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: [cut] > > Besides, the FAQ only applies to -stable and not to -current, so > installing it on a -current system would be badly misleading. > And we certainly don't want the release(8) process to work differently > for -current and -s