Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-03-01 Thread Siju George
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:22 AM, James Hozier wrote: > > So with that reference in mind, would anyone experienced care to point > me in some correct direction? (Which texts to read, which programming > language(s) to focus on, etc.) > A book that might help. http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ --Siju

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-02-27 Thread Andres Genovez
while > after the rent, bills, > and food, but I'm not sure if I still want to > make the purchase because I > could learn so much from trying to get my > current notebook to work instead of > just relying on something that > works out of the box. So I'm still > cont

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-23 Thread Bret S. Lambert
7;s under the hood of those utilities, I suggest beginning in the C library (src/lib/libc/). And Stevens is teh sexx. > > You will need to study in detail work that has already been done. > > I doubt that you will find many good books on reverse engineering, > but you ought to

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-22 Thread Chris Bennett
e on studying basic and old but still very useful utilities such as sed, ed etc. You will need to study in detail work that has already been done. I doubt that you will find many good books on reverse engineering, but you ought to be able to find the people who could but haven't written thos

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-22 Thread nixlists
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, James Hozier wrote: > I don't understand what a solution can be. If they're never going to > release > supporting documentation anyway, does it really make a > difference for them? I don't know if I am buying into a troll or a flamebait, but what the heck?... How

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-22 Thread bofh
Put that money aside, and use whatever crappy computer you have. Most people don't need the fastest whiz bang computers. I typically only buy computers when I *absolutely* have to. My main laptop is a 4 year old box, and other than the new mb/ram I just bought, all my other stuff is at least 6-8

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-22 Thread James Hozier
use. What do you think? --- On Fri, 1/22/10, J.C. Roberts wrote: > From: J.C. Roberts > Subject: Re: Books on reverse engineering? > To: "Ted Unangst" > Cc: "Tomas Bodzar" , "Tobias Ulmer" , "James Hozier" , misc@openbsd.org > Date: F

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-22 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:09:22 -0500 Ted Unangst wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Tomas Bodzar > wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Tobias Ulmer > > wrote: > >> - ability to research stuff yourself, without asking on a ml > >> - etc > >> > >> Your question is naive. If you were

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread ropers
2010/1/22 Tobias Ulmer : > The only one who can prove that my assumptions are BS would be James. > The pressure is on 1. It's not a race. 2. You don't get to say things and then demand that James prove you wrong. That's bass-ackwards. regards, --ropers

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Tobias Ulmer
The only one who can prove that my assumptions are BS would be James. The pressure is on, maybe you want to help him with better pointers than mine instead of just calling bs. On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:19:10PM +, Owain Ainsworth wrote: > As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C "

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread mehma sarja
I second that notion. Mehma === On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Owain Ainsworth wrote: > As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C " to hacking the > kernel, i call bullshit on your assumptions here. > > On 1/21/10, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800,

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Owain Ainsworth
As someone who went from "knowing a small amount of C " to hacking the kernel, i call bullshit on your assumptions here. On 1/21/10, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote: >> With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I >> was able

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Tomas Bodzar wrote: > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Tobias Ulmer wrote: >> - ability to research stuff yourself, without asking on a ml >> - etc >> >> Your question is naive. If you were up to it, you wouldn't have to ask >> the equivalent of "How do I become a

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Brad Tilley
On Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:52 -0800, "James Hozier" wrote: > With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I > was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few > quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn't work, work. > > The one main issue I've had with ALL of them

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Tomas Bodzar
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote: >> With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I >> was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few >> quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn

Re: Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-21 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 05:52:52PM -0800, James Hozier wrote: > With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I > was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few > quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn't work, work. > > The one main issue I've had with ALL of

Books on reverse engineering?

2010-01-20 Thread James Hozier
With every single laptop I've bought/been given over the years, I was able to run OpenBSD on them almost flawlessly save a few quick/simple hacks to make anything that didn't work, work. The one main issue I've had with ALL of them was the wireless card...maybe I was just unlucky to have gotten on