Re: CARP under heavy load

2009-01-06 Thread ropers
* ropers rop...@gmail.com [2008-12-12 15:01]: Maybe --possibly-- my own understanding is sorely lacking. Let me try to explain. The following requires a non-proportional font: (...) OTOH, if you have a dedicated link, maybe your setup looks like this? external network |

Re: CARP under heavy load

2009-01-06 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:51 PM, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote: * ropers rop...@gmail.com [2008-12-12 15:01]: Maybe --possibly-- my own understanding is sorely lacking. Let me try to explain. The following requires a non-proportional font: (...) OTOH, if you have a dedicated link,

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-23 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 08:13 +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote: There is some initial code in -current that tries to avoid the system entering livelock for extended times. It needs a lot of testing so maybe you should try it out and report back. sure. Just send me the diffs... -- Stephan A.

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-23 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 09:15 +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 08:13 +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote: There is some initial code in -current that tries to avoid the system entering livelock for extended times. It needs a lot of testing so maybe you should try it out and

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-22 Thread Henning Brauer
* ropers rop...@gmail.com [2008-12-12 14:17]: What link are you sending the CARP advertisements over? E.g. do you use a dedicated link (separate NICs and cable connection between the CARPed machines) or do you send the CARP advertisements over existing other links? (Which? Please illustrate.)

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-22 Thread Henning Brauer
* ropers rop...@gmail.com [2008-12-12 15:01]: 2008/12/12 Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:11 +0100, ropers wrote: What link are you sending the CARP advertisements over? E.g. do you use a dedicated link (separate NICs and cable connection

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-22 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 12:56:22PM +, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: We have a simple two-node CARP cluster, each with three em(2)'s and one fxp0() interface. The setup runs fine since OpenBSD 3.7. Being part of University Zurich our firewall has a 1GBit uplink to the central Uni

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-16 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:04 +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008-12-15, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: On Mon, 15.12.2008 at 10:14:41 +0200, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: IME forwarded packets seem to somehow have a higher priority than self-originated traffic in most

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-16 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:43:43AM +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: If the two machines that are part of the same CARP group are connected to the same switch, and you are experiencing packet loss, then something really

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-12-16, Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch wrote: On Mon, 2008-12-15 at 13:04 +, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2008-12-15, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: On Mon, 15.12.2008 at 10:14:41 +0200, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: IME forwarded packets

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-15 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 03:43:43AM +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: If the two machines that are part of the same CARP group are connected to the same switch, and you are experiencing packet loss, then something really bad is going on. How many ports does your switch have? Perhaps the total

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-15 Thread Toni Mueller
On Mon, 15.12.2008 at 10:14:41 +0200, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: IME forwarded packets seem to somehow have a higher priority than self-originated traffic in most OS's; don't know why this is, just a gut feeling. I guess that this is true. In any case, if he would be able to maintain

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-12-15, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: On Mon, 15.12.2008 at 10:14:41 +0200, Jussi Peltola pe...@pelzi.net wrote: IME forwarded packets seem to somehow have a higher priority than self-originated traffic in most OS's; don't know why this is, just a gut feeling. I guess that

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-14 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 17:32 +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: What's the point on using CARP to send advertisements over a dedicated link? The dedicated link is typically a cross-over cable

CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
We have a simple two-node CARP cluster, each with three em(2)'s and one fxp0() interface. The setup runs fine since OpenBSD 3.7. Being part of University Zurich our firewall has a 1GBit uplink to the central Uni infrastructure. Recently we have seen that utilizing this link heavily (e.g. when our

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread ropers
2008/12/12 Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch: We have a simple two-node CARP cluster, each with three em(2)'s and one fxp0() interface. The setup runs fine since OpenBSD 3.7. Being part of University Zurich our firewall has a 1GBit uplink to the central Uni infrastructure.

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:11 +0100, ropers wrote: What link are you sending the CARP advertisements over? E.g. do you use a dedicated link (separate NICs and cable connection between the CARPed machines) or do you send the CARP advertisements over existing other links? (Which? Please

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread ropers
2008/12/12 Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:11 +0100, ropers wrote: What link are you sending the CARP advertisements over? E.g. do you use a dedicated link (separate NICs and cable connection between the CARPed machines) or do you send the CARP

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:57 +0100, ropers wrote: Maybe --possibly-- my own understanding is sorely lacking. Let me try to explain. The following requires a non-proportional font: Is this what your CARP setup looks like? external network || OpenBSD#0

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Felipe Alfaro Solana
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch wrote: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:57 +0100, ropers wrote: Maybe --possibly-- my own understanding is sorely lacking. Let me try to explain. The following requires a non-proportional font: Is this what

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Tom Van Looy
Stephan A. Rickauer wrote: One can use 'carppeer' to not send multicast but unicast. However, I was under the impression one still needs to do peering on the same link as the carp interfaces sit. Yes, because if you send carp messages on an other (dedicated) link and the link to the

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Liam J. Foy
2008/12/12 Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch We have a simple two-node CARP cluster, each with three em(2)'s and one fxp0() interface. The setup runs fine since OpenBSD 3.7. Being part of University Zurich our firewall has a 1GBit uplink to the central Uni infrastructure.

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Liam J. Foy
2008/12/12 ropers rop...@gmail.com 2008/12/12 Stephan A. Rickauer stephan.ricka...@ini.phys.ethz.ch: On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:11 +0100, ropers wrote: What link are you sending the CARP advertisements over? E.g. do you use a dedicated link (separate NICs and cable connection between the

Re: CARP under heavy load

2008-12-12 Thread Stephan A. Rickauer
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 17:32 +0100, Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote: What's the point on using CARP to send advertisements over a dedicated link? The dedicated link is typically a cross-over cable (i.e. used for pfsync) and hence, in case of a switch port failure (or cable failure), CARP won't be