Re: hardware security (was Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-17 Thread Joseph A Borg
apparently the F-35 project sources motherboards for key instrumentation from China. This is a new economic cold war. Do what you feel best but a big part of this is politics. Maybe the list should qualify when a mail thread is verging on personal politics and out of strictly technical

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-16 Thread lists
Sun, 16 Jun 2019 05:23:36 +0200 ms > "It looks like at least the reengineering of the firmware > > and the analysis of the code could increase the security, to avoid > security wholes" > ^^ Your clock is off. Wrong time is a serious reliability & security flaw. Before you look

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2019-06-15, ms wrote: > https://www.golem.de/news/supermicro-diskussion-um-ueberwachungschips-1810-136965.html > > https://www.heise.de/security/meldung/Bericht-Winzige-Chips-spionierten-in-Cloud-Servern-von-Apple-und-Amazon-4181461.html Those are based on the discredited Bloomberg piece I

hardware security (was Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-16 Thread Luke A. Call
And I think I read that Supermicro is moving production out of China because of the perceptions of risk (and/or actual risks) of sensitive electronics manufacturing there. Forgive/ignore if this question is excessive here, but I wonder if anyone has knowledge or educated perspective to share

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-16 Thread Stuart Longland
On 16/6/19 1:23 pm, ms wrote: >>> Now a day backdors are already on the silicon level (inside chips). They >>> are declared as debugging interfaces.. >> Must have happened around the time when school dropouts went to business. > > What do you want to say? Do you have experience in chip design?

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread ms
I am sorry for NOT reading my content again before posting it, my fault. On 16.06.19 06:35, li...@wrant.com wrote: Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:52:18 +0200 ms Now a day backdors are already on the silicon level (inside chips). They are declared as debugging interfaces.. Must have happened around the

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread lists
Sat, 15 Jun 2019 23:52:18 +0200 ms > Now a day backdors are already on the silicon level (inside chips). They > are declared as debugging interfaces.. Must have happened around the time when school dropouts went to business. > It looks like at least the reengineering of the frimware an it is

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread ms
https://www.golem.de/news/supermicro-diskussion-um-ueberwachungschips-1810-136965.html https://www.heise.de/security/meldung/Bericht-Winzige-Chips-spionierten-in-Cloud-Servern-von-Apple-und-Amazon-4181461.html Now a day backdors are already on the silicon level (inside chips). They are

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread Patrick Dohman
My understanding is that a well known linux vendor was disabling kernel ACPI APEI & EINJ parameter support by default. "ACPI provides an error injection mechanism, EINJ, for debugging and testing the ACPI Platform Error Interface (APEI) and other RAS features. If supported by the firmware, ACPI

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2019-06-15, ms wrote: > There were some serious security issues with hardware and software from > Supermicro (espionage chips, firmware) Assuming you mean the allegations in that Bloomberg piece, there was no evidence found supporting them.

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread ms
There were some serious security issues with hardware and software from Supermicro (espionage chips, firmware) For me a NoGo! On 15.06.19 12:52, Andrew Luke Nesbit wrote: On 15/06/2019 10:36, Jonathan Gray wrote: On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 09:02:11AM +0100, Richard Laysell wrote: Hello, I

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread Richard Laysell
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 19:36:23 +1000 Jonathan Gray wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 09:02:11AM +0100, Richard Laysell wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I was trying OpenBSD on a Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F which uses an > > Intel Atom CPU (Denverton). The board boots but most devices are > > not

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread Andrew Luke Nesbit
On 15/06/2019 10:36, Jonathan Gray wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 09:02:11AM +0100, Richard Laysell wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I was trying OpenBSD on a Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F which uses an Intel >> Atom CPU (Denverton). The board boots but most devices are not >> detected because ACPI can't

Re: Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 09:02:11AM +0100, Richard Laysell wrote: > > Hello, > > I was trying OpenBSD on a Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F which uses an Intel > Atom CPU (Denverton). The board boots but most devices are not > detected because ACPI can't be enabled. > > Does anyone know if this is

Installing OpenBSD on Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F

2019-06-15 Thread Richard Laysell
Hello, I was trying OpenBSD on a Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F which uses an Intel Atom CPU (Denverton). The board boots but most devices are not detected because ACPI can't be enabled. Does anyone know if this is likely to be supported at some point? Full dmesg is below OpenBSD 6.5