Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Richard Toohey
On 4/06/2009, at 9:56 AM, Chris Bennett wrote: [chop] I'm very motivated to help out. I'm very eager to do something useful when I have free time, which comes in big bunches together. I don't need something glamorous or sexy. I know very well that I am like the little kid among the grown-ups,

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Chris Bennett
Richard Toohey wrote: [chop] The last time this was discussed ... kernel janitors. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119377638131216w=2 Lots of stuff in that thread; including many of the developers. That's a good (and long :) ) thread to read. I just got accused on another thread about

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Richard Toohey
On 4/06/2009, at 8:13 PM, Chris Bennett wrote: Richard Toohey wrote: [chop] The last time this was discussed ... kernel janitors. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119377638131216w=2 Lots of stuff in that thread; including many of the developers. That's a good (and long :) ) thread to

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 03:13:24AM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote: The developers all already know how to code well, us newbies who are self-taught could use something that you might find difficult to provide since you don't really need it anymore: Which books have appropriate information

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Alfredo Perez
Hi I have been following this tread very closely because I also would like to contribute some how to the project but don't know from where to start. Chris: maybe we can start a group (google or yahoo) and get together all the new people who have the time and the insterest of learning and

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 07:26:58AM -0400, Alfredo Perez wrote: I have been following this tread very closely because I also No, because if you had been, you'd have already been pointed to the plethora of examples of if you want to contribute, here's how that have been provided. What people seem

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Abel Camarillo
an extensive, complete and well maintained list: $ grep -RH FIXME /usr/src/; -- DISCLAIMER: http://goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ This message will self-destruct in 3 seconds.

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Miod Vallat
an extensive, complete and well maintained list: $ grep -RH FIXME /usr/src/; Actually, FIXME is a GNU idiom which you'll only find in GNU sources. BSD developers use XXX instead.

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread patrick keshishian
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Miod Vallat m...@online.fr wrote: an extensive, complete and well maintained list: $ grep -RH FIXME /usr/src/; Actually, FIXME is a GNU idiom which you'll only find in GNU sources. BSD developers use XXX instead. kinky.

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Ted Unangst
2009/6/3 Christiano Farina Haesbaert christiano...@gmail.com: Port driver y from xbsd : We need support for cards blablablabla I think this right here demonstrates how far away you are from where you need to be. If you don't have such hardware, your efforts at supporting it are likely to be

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Dorian Büttner
patrick keshishian schrieb: You mean something like the bug database? http://www.openbsd.org/query-pr.html select State: Open click Query PRs. You can even customize the list by Category, Class, Severity and Priority. --patrick 6020/kernel is a dup of 5946/kernel, isn't it?

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Mic J michael.cogn...@gmail.com wrote: Also i would like wireshark ;) but thats a contreversial subject. There's nothing controversial about it. You just need to privilege-separate it. -- Christian naddy Weisgerber na...@mips.inka.de

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
2009/6/4 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com 2009/6/3 Christiano Farina Haesbaert christiano...@gmail.com: Port driver y from xbsd : We need support for cards blablablabla I think this right here demonstrates how far away you are from where you need to be. If you don't have such hardware,

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Abel Camarillo
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 04:10:04PM +, Miod Vallat wrote: an extensive, complete and well maintained list: $ grep -RH FIXME /usr/src/; Actually, FIXME is a GNU idiom which you'll only find in GNU sources. BSD developers use XXX instead. well i just guessed it... the point was: see

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Please guys, lets stop this. I now regret even asking. It wasn't mean to be as it was taken down that path as what can we do to help, or what's needed, etc I thought the title was clear. My fault and I apologies to have sent this in. What I was really ONLY asking or looking for was an

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Alexander Hall
Daniel Ouellet wrote: My deepest apologies for the nose! I don't mind it. Daniel

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Alexander Hall wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: My deepest apologies for the nose! I don't mind it. Men, should have been noise not nose. Fair picking, I deserved it! (;

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Alexander Hall
Daniel Ouellet wrote: Alexander Hall wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: My deepest apologies for the nose! I don't mind it. Men, should have been noise not nose. Fair picking, I deserved it! (; Hey! I did not pick your nose. :-)

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 04:39:38PM -0600, Alexander Hall wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: Alexander Hall wrote: Daniel Ouellet wrote: My deepest apologies for the nose! I don't mind it. Men, should have been noise not nose. Fair picking, I deserved it! (; Hey! I did not pick

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-04 Thread Ted Walther
Book suggestions here: http://reactor-core.org/programmer-syllabus.html Ted On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 03:13:24AM -0500, Chris Bennett wrote: Richard Toohey wrote: [chop] The last time this was discussed ... kernel janitors. http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=119377638131216w=2 Lots of stuff

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-03 Thread Mic J
Discussed many times. :) check archives for many interesting repsonses. But some of the developers has some work wishlist of what the want to do have done. Or some used to have. Otherwise their is lots of ports, that could be interesting, if it doesnt have to be base system work (wine might

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-03 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
2009/6/2 Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com This comes up from time to time and the more I think about it, the more I believe that if you don't know what you want to do but somebody tells you, you won't be very good at it. Partially because you lack motivation, but also because if the problem

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-03 Thread Chris Bennett
Couldn't agree more, but for the first steps this does not apply. It's far easier to start in a project when you have someone telling you what needs to be done, the first step is the hardest, if we could ease it, the rest would come naturally. I strongly believe the bug tracking should be that

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-03 Thread Henning Brauer
* Chris Bennett ch...@bennettconstruction.biz [2009-06-04 00:23]: I'm very motivated to help out. make a udp mode in tcpbench make the tcpbench server side non-forking non-blocking and report useful summary stats make tcpbench able to send to a bunch of IPs in a round-robin fashion (like it does

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-03 Thread Paul M
Gosh, when was vi obsoleted. I must have missed that. paulm On 4/06/2009, at 4:33 AM, Mic J wrote: Discussed many times. :) check archives for many interesting repsonses. But some of the developers has some work wishlist of what the want to do have done. Or some used to have. Otherwise

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-03 Thread Matthew Dempsky
On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Paul M l...@no-tek.com wrote: Gosh, when was vi obsoleted. Fri Feb 25 19:08:45 2000 UTC, according to http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/mg/Makefile :)

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-02 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:12 PM, eWGENIJ `NAK e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but the tracker is about bugs, there is no such category as enhancement proposal. Maybe, just include such class? And i feel there still is a need for a list of what needs to be done, and who is responsible (think most

List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Hi, Is there some code in the tree that like apache a few years ago stop following the source for valid license reason, or was forked, kind of, that would need or benefit from cleanup just like I did apache in 2004-2006? Kind of disgraceful janitor work if you like, but that would be

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread Евгений Юнак
Hi! Personally, i think this is a really good question, because there are many people, who are just starting up, and they could be of some help, if they knew what to do. I think it would be a great idea of having a general list of what needs to be done, in any way, and what should not. And the

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 05:05:09AM +0300, ??? wrote: Hi! Personally, i think this is a really good question, because there are many people, who are just starting up, and they could be of some help, if they knew what to do. I think it would be a great idea of having a general list of

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread patrick keshishian
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:05 PM, PP2P3P5P=P8P9 P.P=P0P: e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Personally, i think this is a really good question, because there are many people, who are just starting up, and they could be of some help, if they knew what to do. I think it would be a great idea of having

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread Евгений Юнак
2009/6/2 patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:05 PM, PP2P3P5P=P8P9 P.P=P0P: e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Personally, i think this is a really good question, because there are many people, who are just starting up, and they could be of some help, if they knew what

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread patrick keshishian
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 8:12 PM, PP2P3P5P=P8P9 P.P=P0P: e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/2 patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:05 PM, PP2P3P5P=P8P9 P.P=P0P: e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Personally, i think this is a really good question, because there are many

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 06:12:36AM +0300, ?? wrote: 2009/6/2 patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 7:05 PM, PP2P3P5P=P8P9 P.P=P0P: e.yu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Personally, i think this is a really good question, because there are many people,

Re: List of old forked or frozen code like apache that needs cleanup?

2009-06-01 Thread Евгений Юнак
Thank you all for your replies, now i (and hopefully someone else) know how thing really are. Thank you again, and sorry for my bad English. -- The best the little guy can do is what the little guy does right