Re: Via C7, was Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-05-07 Thread James Crutchfield
On 5/6/08, Geoff Steckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use them for firewalls and disk servers. For that they work quite well. Yes, graphics are painfully slow, but I think that's the fault of the integrated graphics. Using a PCI graphics card seems to speed them up quite a bit. One of them I

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-05-06 Thread James Crutchfield
On 4/9/08, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 would this be good news for the community? This is really mainly Linux-related, but i'm hoping that their mention of technical documentation will be good

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-11 Thread Henning Brauer
* frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-09 22:19]: hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:35:18PM -0400, bofh said that Sun learnt a lot of lessons when it tried to merge sparc and x86 code bases together around the solaris 2.4 time, iirc. That's why things like zfs are endian neutral.

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-10 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hi! On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:12:49PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:35:18PM -0400, bofh said that Sun learnt a lot of lessons when it tried to merge sparc and x86 code bases together around the solaris 2.4 time, iirc. That's why things like zfs are endian

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-10 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 03:41:54AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:08:26AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: Yes, I noticed it's there - but does the driver support all of the available capabilities? according to BUGS in envy(4), no. but emu(4) doesn't

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-10 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:36:51PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: - first, envy24 is a generic digital only chip; it's connected to up to 4 codecs that do the analog-digital conversions and that hold the gain knobs. So to add support for a new cards we must add support for its

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-10 Thread Alexandre Ratchov
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:47:37PM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:36:51PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: - first, envy24 is a generic digital only chip; it's connected to up to 4 codecs that do the analog-digital conversions and that hold the gain

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-10 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:25:50PM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: well, if both codecs and the digital chip are well documented, how they are connected is not too hard to guess. There's an EEPROM that gives hints. You're right: if. ;) But found some more info about the other chips:

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-04-09, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 would this be good news for the community? Too early to say, they haven't released anything yet.

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Theo de Raadt
http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 would this be good news for the community? This is really mainly Linux-related, but i'm hoping that their mention of technical documentation will be good enough for Open to be able to support them...

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:25:25AM -0600, Theo de Raadt said that It took us a very long time to get Sun to do this, and it was totally worth it. It is kind of strange to us to have Sun suddenly be the perfect example of openness. a bit OT, but i just had the pleasure of meeting and

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread bofh
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:07 PM, frantisek holop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a bit OT, but i just had the pleasure of meeting and ex-sun employee, working mostly on kernel stuff. i dont know how similar the opensolaris and solaris kernels are, but he said the solaris kernel code is a beauty to

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:35:18PM -0400, bofh said that Sun learnt a lot of lessons when it tried to merge sparc and x86 code bases together around the solaris 2.4 time, iirc. That's why things like zfs are endian neutral. OpenBSD started in the multi cpu world to begin with. i might

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:07:08PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: It took us a very long time to get Sun to do this, and it was totally worth it. It is kind of strange to us to have Sun suddenly be the perfect example of openness. So, perhaps the best audio-option would be something using

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:57:05PM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 09:07:08PM +0200, frantisek holop wrote: It took us a very long time to get Sun to do this, and it was totally worth it. It is kind of strange to us to have Sun suddenly be the perfect example

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:49:07PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: So, perhaps the best audio-option would be something using VIA Envy24(HT) - which is reportedly better than Audigy(2)? Time to swap? envy(4) already exists in -current (and will be in 4.3). doesn't support the HT version

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 01:11:47AM +0200, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:49:07PM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: So, perhaps the best audio-option would be something using VIA Envy24(HT) - which is reportedly better than Audigy(2)? Time to swap? envy(4) already

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Baniewski
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:08:26AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: Yes, I noticed it's there - but does the driver support all of the available capabilities? according to BUGS in envy(4), no. but emu(4) doesn't support all the features of the emu10k1 chips, either. I understand - but the

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Zbigniew Baniewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:08:26AM +, Jacob Meuser wrote: Yes, I noticed it's there - but does the driver support all of the available capabilities? according to BUGS in envy(4), no. but emu(4) doesn't

Re: VIA Announces Strategic Open Source Driver Development Initiative

2008-04-09 Thread Peter_APIIT
Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: http://www.via.com.tw/en/resources/pressroom/pressrelease.jsp?press_release_no=2088 would this be good news for the community? This is really mainly Linux-related, but i'm hoping that their mention of technical documentation will be good enough for Open to be able