Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Travers Buda
* Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-30 10:49:59]: > Travers Buda wrote: > > They're basically the same thing. > > No they're not. One run on the vendors hardware, the other run on your > OS. Two entirely different things. > Sorry, I was being nebulous. They're the same thing in the reg

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Nick Holland
Travers Buda wrote: > * Matthew R. Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-29 15:16:15]: > >> On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 01:30:01PM -0600, Travers Buda wrote: >>> Well I think both are equally dangerous (binary firmware and >>> binary drivers.) They're basically the same thing. Not at all, see below...

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Lars Hansson
Travers Buda wrote: > They're basically the same thing. No they're not. One run on the vendors hardware, the other run on your OS. Two entirely different things. --- Lars Hansson

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 03:52:03PM -0600, Travers Buda wrote: > Well there is that proof-of-concept that debuted at BlackHat where > those researchers compromised the OS of a macintosh. I was under the > impression that they compromised it via the firmware, but it is > equally possible it was achi

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Travers Buda
* Matthew R. Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-29 15:16:15]: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 01:30:01PM -0600, Travers Buda wrote: > > Well I think both are equally dangerous (binary firmware and binary > > drivers.) They're basically the same thing. > > My understanding has always been that a bad b

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 01:30:01PM -0600, Travers Buda wrote: > Well I think both are equally dangerous (binary firmware and binary > drivers.) They're basically the same thing. My understanding has always been that a bad binary driver can corrupt main memory, but a bad binary firmware is limited

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Travers Buda
* Trond Danielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-01-29 18:30:05]: > 2007/1/29, Vim Visual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >Which cards in that list are comparable in quality to the intel 2200BG > >but do not require blobs? > > > > The ipw2200 is not the only one that requires a binary firmware to be > load

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Marius ROMAN
You can read here : http://vendorwatch.org/index.php?title=Blob "Blobs are vendor-compiled binary drivers without any source code. Hardware makers like them because they obscure the details of how to make their hardware work. They hide bugs and workarounds for bugs. Newer versions of blobs can we

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Trond Danielsen
2007/1/29, Vim Visual <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Which cards in that list are comparable in quality to the intel 2200BG but do not require blobs? The ipw2200 is not the only one that requires a binary firmware to be loaded into network card to be funtional. Others may disagree, but I think there is

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-29 Thread Vim Visual
Hi Johan and all, fortunately the seller made the mistake in the web page where I found the laptop and he wrote that it's a centrino and in the wikipedia you can read: "To qualify for a Centrino label, vendors must use all three Intel qualified parts for laptop, otherwise using only the processo

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless

2007-01-28 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:29:42PM +0100, Vim Visual wrote: > "Aironet MPI-350 Wireless" rev 0x00 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 not configured > > I've been googling for a while and it seems that there's no way to > configure this one... I am just asking here in case of. Has anybody > fixed that one or

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-18 Thread Donald Bruce Stewart
james: > I've looked through the mailing list archives and haven't found any recent > information about Aironet MPI-350 Wireless support. I just did a fresh > install of OpenBSD 3.9 on a ThinkPad T40 with this wireless card. Dmesg > outputs this information ""Aironet MPI-350 Wireless" rev 0x00 at

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/10/18 01:16, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Does anyone know if Ralink/ral has any mPCI cards with the tx/rx power > compareable to the ath(4) one in this link? there aren't, you'll have look fairly hard to find even +20dBm on a ralink minipci. they're usually +17dBm (and a bit less sensitive th

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-18 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wednesday 18 October 2006 14:16, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Does anyone know if Ralink/ral has any mPCI cards with the tx/rx power > compareable to the ath(4) one in this link? man ral gives the following mpci cards: Amigo AWI-922W Billionton MIWLGRL Gigabyte GN-WIKG MSI MP54G2 MSI MS-6833 Tonze P

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-17 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
Does anyone know if Ralink/ral has any mPCI cards with the tx/rx power compareable to the ath(4) one in this link? http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwu/reliawave-rwu-400mw-atheros-802.11g-mini-pci-card.html Sam Fourman Jr. On 10/18/06, Jonathan Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On W

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-17 Thread Jonathan Gray
On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 12:18:17AM -0400, James Turner wrote: > I've looked through the mailing list archives and haven't found any recent > information about Aironet MPI-350 Wireless support. I just did a fresh > install of OpenBSD 3.9 on a ThinkPad T40 with this wireless card. Dmesg > outputs t

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-17 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
I did a quick search on google and it turned up nothing, However FreeBSD has a "an0" driver that may work for you I have found ral(4) to be Very Good with OpenBSD do a $ man ral at a OpenBSD shell prompt to see a list of supported cards Sam Fourman Jr. On 10/17/06, James Turner <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Aironet MPI-350 Wireless Support?

2006-10-17 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.
James, in my experience when "not configured" means the device it is not supported. do you know exactly what chipset this device has? Sam Fourman Jr. On 10/17/06, James Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've looked through the mailing list archives and haven't found any recent information ab