Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-11 Thread Henning Brauer
* Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-09 01:26]: Optimised out of the box sounds good to me - not having to do anything is the way I like to work ;-) so do we. that's why it is that way :) You do realise that this means that the installation time of the base system is now going to be

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-11 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 01:14:49PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: * Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-09 01:26]: Optimised out of the box sounds good to me - not having to do anything is the way I like to work ;-) so do we. that's why it is that way :) You do realise that this

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-10 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Douglas A. Tutty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 6:58 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Optimising OpenBSD On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:55:36AM -0500, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote: From: Douglas A. Tutty [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-10 Thread Fabio Almeida
I would like to recomend Secure Architectures With OpenBSD. It`s a great book. Cheers, Fabio On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:55:36AM -0500, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote: From: Douglas A. Tutty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-09 Thread Matt
Matthew Smith schreef: I'm only really concerned about the base system as I always build all my LAMPP components, Postfix, etc., by hand so that migrating box-to-box can go without [a hitch|many hitches]. OpenBSD optimalisation is rather about NOT touching the kernel - unless you really have a

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-09 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
-Original Message- From: Douglas A. Tutty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 10:26 PM To: misc@openbsd.org Cc: Gilles Chehade; Matthew Smith Subject: Re: Optimising OpenBSD On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:27:03PM +, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:49

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-09 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:21:52AM +0930, Matthew Smith wrote: Hi Folks As part of my move from GNU/Linux to OpenBSD on my server, I just want to clarify what I need to do to ensure that I have performance optimised. I am coming from Gentoo Linux, where optimisation is mostly about using

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-09 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Tuesday 08 April 2008 18:07, you wrote: As part of my move from GNU/Linux to OpenBSD on my server, I just want to clarify what I need to do to ensure that I have performance optimised. I imagine, if you run the standard OpenBSD system on your servers for some time, you'll be satisfied.

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-09 Thread Bryan Irvine
Optimised out of the box sounds good to me - not having to do anything is the way I like to work ;-) You do realise that this means that the installation time of the base system is now going to be down to about 15 minutes (from over a day) - what am I going to do with all that spare time?

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-09 Thread Aaron Martinez
Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Rod Whitworth at 2008-04-09 08:04... Matthew, you are pretty new here so I'll be kind. Read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why For this, I apologise. I am currently in the situation that I don't know where to look for what. I might try writing a OpenBSD for

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:55:36AM -0500, Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote: From: Douglas A. Tutty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want a book, although its a bit old there's Absolute OpenBSD by nostarch press. A nice book, but it's out of print. It is available as a PDF though. I purchased a copy

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Ted Unangst
On 4/8/08, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I were to use the appropriate base distribution (x86_64), configure my kernel correctly (as per the likes of http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/10/31/OpenBSD.html) and set the appropriate compiler flags, is this all I need to do? Nothing

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Jason Beaudoin
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks As part of my move from GNU/Linux to OpenBSD on my server, I just want to clarify what I need to do to ensure that I have performance optimised. I am coming from Gentoo Linux, where optimisation is mostly about

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Ted Unangst at 2008-04-09 08:38... Nothing beats an 8 year old article for the latest info. OpenBSD now comes fully optimized out of the box. Yes, I did notice the age, but that was about all that Google had for me. Optimised out of the box sounds good to me - not having to do anything

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Schröder
2008/4/9, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As part of my move from GNU/Linux to OpenBSD on my server, I just want to clarify what I need to do to ensure that I have performance optimised. I am http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why Best Martin

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:49:38AM +0930, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Ted Unangst at 2008-04-09 08:38... Nothing beats an 8 year old article for the latest info. OpenBSD now comes fully optimized out of the box. Yes, I did notice the age, but that was about all that Google had for me.

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread bofh
The standard recommendation for openbsd is to install the stock kernel. For the applications you've described, the standard recommendation is also to use packages or ports. Think of OpenBSD as an appliance, and you're good to go. As a FYI - OpenBSD concentrates on correctness over optimization,

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:21:52 +0930, Matthew Smith wrote: Hi Folks As part of my move from GNU/Linux to OpenBSD on my server, I just want to clarify what I need to do to ensure that I have performance optimised. I am coming from Gentoo Linux, where optimisation is mostly about using the

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:49:38AM +0930, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Ted Unangst at 2008-04-09 08:38... Nothing beats an 8 year old article for the latest info. OpenBSD now comes fully optimized out of the box. Yes, I did notice the age, but that was about all that Google had for me.

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Rod Whitworth at 2008-04-09 08:04... Matthew, you are pretty new here so I'll be kind. Read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why For this, I apologise. I am currently in the situation that I don't know where to look for what. I might try writing a OpenBSD for Linux escapees

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Sevan / Venture37
Apache and MySQL have to be hand-builds - my Apache installation is configured for a very specific environment (and all my apps would break if chrooted) and I have applications that rely on specific Apache modules. You dont have to run the bundled apache chrooted, you can change it, very

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Nick Holland
Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Rod Whitworth at 2008-04-09 08:04... Matthew, you are pretty new here so I'll be kind. Read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why For this, I apologise. I am currently in the situation that I don't know where to look for what. I might try writing a OpenBSD for

Re: Optimising OpenBSD

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:27:03PM +, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:49:38AM +0930, Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Ted Unangst at 2008-04-09 08:38... Nothing beats an 8 year old article for the latest info. OpenBSD now comes fully optimized out of the box. Yes, I did