Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-07 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 00:13:10 -0700, Josh Tolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/5/05, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:57:15 -0700, Josh Tolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBSD is written for uses where freedom, stability, adherence to standards, and security are the

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-06 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 08:46:55PM -0800, J.C. Roberts wrote: Heck, in general I agree with you. Any such effort would start off as a sad hack, it would be a lot of work and in the end, there might be nothing gained in the way of fixes since Oracle will probably just ignore your bug reports. I

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-06 Thread Zachery Hostens
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:38:07 -0800, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted happens to be one of the guys responsible for writing OpenBSD, so you'd probably be much better off *asking* Ted why OpenBSD is written and what its uses are. then why is he asking for support? im not saying ted

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-06 Thread Greg Thomas
On 12/6/05, Zachery Hostens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:38:07 -0800, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted happens to be one of the guys responsible for writing OpenBSD, so you'd probably be much better off *asking* Ted why OpenBSD is written and what its uses are.

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-06 Thread Ted Unangst
On 12/6/05, Zachery Hostens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then why is he asking for support? im not saying ted isnt an openbsd developer. it just seems odd he is asking for aid in getting software to run on it. i wasn't. i didn't think the original message was very helpful though. the use of

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-06 Thread Josh Tolley
On 12/5/05, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:57:15 -0700, Josh Tolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBSD is written for uses where freedom, stability, adherence to standards, and security are the top concerns You are pontificating your personal opinions on why

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-05 Thread Dennis S.Davidoff
Monday, December 5, 2005, 12:49:21 AM, you wrote: FP Has anyone got Oracle 10g working on OpenBSD 3.8? FP What is the general consensus of running Oracle on OpenBSD? Bad idea, use Linux instead. Incidentally, I ask audience, have anyone port oracle7 client (API) like in FreeBSD? :) I don't need

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-05 Thread Obi Okeke
--- Josh Tolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Running oracle on any unsupported platform is probably not the best idea, not only because you won't get support, but also because running it on a more secure platform will still leave you with lots of holes; 1) Just an fyi, I have a few boxes Oracle

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-05 Thread Joseph C. Bender
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:57:15 -0700, Josh Tolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone has a viable need of Oracle products, it's in their best interest to get it running on OpenBSD. Why? Going off into unsupported territory where there's probably 10 other

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-05 Thread Jim Razmus
* Dennis S.Davidoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [051205 03:23]: Monday, December 5, 2005, 12:49:21 AM, you wrote: FP Has anyone got Oracle 10g working on OpenBSD 3.8? FP What is the general consensus of running Oracle on OpenBSD? Bad idea, use Linux instead. Incidentally, I ask audience, have

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-05 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005 14:43:18 -0500 (EST), Joseph C. Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005, J.C. Roberts wrote: On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:57:15 -0700, Josh Tolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone has a viable need of Oracle products, it's in their best interest to get it running on

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-05 Thread Sean Comeau
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 09:49:21PM +, Frank Parsons wrote: Has anyone got Oracle 10g working on OpenBSD 3.8? What is the general consensus of running Oracle on OpenBSD? Don't bother. Run it on Linux instead, and make sure you use the distro Oracle approves of or expect things to break.

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-05 Thread Joseph C. Bender
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, J.C. Roberts wrote: You certainly have a valid point when it comes to doing useful production work with Oracle on OpenBSD but from what you've written, it seems like you do not value the bug finding process all that much. You could not be more wrong. Do *not* presume that

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-04 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 09:49:21PM +, Frank Parsons wrote: Has anyone got Oracle 10g working on OpenBSD 3.8? What is the general consensus of running Oracle on OpenBSD? I have no experience with Oracle, but if you are going to be running insecure software, why not choose a

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-04 Thread Ioan Nemes
Run Oracle ONLY on the supported platforms! http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/oracle10g/index.html Ioan Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/12/2005 09:14:25 am On Sun, Dec 04, 2005 at 09:49:21PM +, Frank Parsons wrote: Has anyone got Oracle 10g working on

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-04 Thread Ted Unangst
On 12/4/05, Ioan Nemes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Run Oracle ONLY on the supported platforms! http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/oracle10g/index.html huh? why would you say that?

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-04 Thread Zachery Hostens
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 15:12:10 -0800, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/4/05, Ioan Nemes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Run Oracle ONLY on the supported platforms! http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/oracle10g/index.html huh? why would you say that? im pretty sure

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-04 Thread Josh Tolley
Running oracle on any unsupported platform is probably not the best idea, not only because you won't get support, but also because running it on a more secure platform will still leave you with lots of holes; in other words, you're going to need something in front of the box to protect it anyway.

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-04 Thread Mitch Parker
Josh, Agreed on all points. Oracle also likes to tie releases of their database to specific versions of Linux, not just platform types. I had that issue with 8i Release 2 on Red Hat. However, Oracle does have instructions available on their Metalink support site for installing on FreeBSD.

Re: Oracle, anyone?

2005-12-04 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 21:57:15 -0700, Josh Tolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenBSD is written for uses where freedom, stability, adherence to standards, and security are the top concerns You are pontificating your personal opinions on why OpenBSD is written and what OpenBSD is used for to Ted