Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello Henning, I wasn't aware that I need permission to continue a thread. Excuse me for my missunderstanding, but think I'm not involved in the release and compile procedures. If you don't like to answer, please don't. As a matter of fact, most of list users preffer to joke and to write

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 10:22:19AM +0200, Mihai Popescu wrote: Hello Henning, I wasn't aware that I need permission to continue a thread. Excuse me for my missunderstanding, but think I'm not involved in the release and compile procedures. If you don't like to answer, please don't. As a

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Bret Lambert
Maybe some of user will eventually get a clue glueing all the answer scattered on this list and FAQ. http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#shamismatch That entry contains all the relevant details end users should need, which is we're aware that checksum mismatches happen on snapshots; it's not

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You have spent a lot of time bitching and no time to give a damn clear answer. It's not my problem that you attract idiots ( I

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Tony Abernethy
Methinks this project is somehow about good code, not good moods. -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Mihai Popescu Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2011 9:19 AM To: misc Subject: Re: is SHA256 file used or not ? Hi Henning

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? I still don't figure out why this checksum missmatch is ( on the same server, not among servers). The troll haas been planted.

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Marco Peereboom
Henning was being nice. This stupid question keeps coming up. Yes, it is a stupid question and yes it is annoying and yes Henning should remind you of that. The so called good answers have been provided a trillion times by now. Learn how to use the internet or get of it. On Tue, Feb 08, 2011

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread fqui nonez
2011/2/8 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com: Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You have spent a lot of time bitching and no time to give a damn clear answer. It's

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread patric conant
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 10:59 AM, fqui nonez fquinon...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/8 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com: Hi Henning, It looks like you are in a bad mood. Please read my entire post and don't cut and paste out of context. Man, if you do not want to answer, please don't. You

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Alexander Hall
On 02/08/11 19:29, patric conant wrote: I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be saved with RTFM@MP. Lo and behold! The future is already here! http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc ;-)

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Alexander Hall
On 02/08/11 22:06, Alexander Hall wrote: On 02/08/11 19:29, patric conant wrote: I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be saved with RTFM@MP. Ah. _man_ page. not _web_ page. well, nm. /Alexander Lo and behold! The future is already here!

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Jordi Espasa Clofent
I am not so educated as others, i use OBSD since 2001-2002, with many dificulties, but i have undertood that there are only 2 different kind of persons. Developers and users, developers work for them, and users recive the collateral benefit using OBSD. If you use OpenBSD since 2001-2002 I think

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello all, Things got out of my hand and I want to say something and close this thread. There were some other posts in this thread which I consider are off-topic. I got also direct email telling me I should not blame Henning and other developers. I will try again to explain, moving myself

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Bryan
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 12:29, patric conant mirage.comput...@gmail.com wrote: I like the idea of a misc@ man page, think of all the typing that could be saved with RTFM@MP. RTFFAQ?

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Ted Unangst
. No problem! $ rtfmmp() { lynx --dump http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=$1q=b; | more; } $ rtfmmp sha256 ... 1. 2011-02-08 [9]Re: is SHA256 file used or not ? 2. 2011-02-08 [11]Re: is SHA256 file used or not ? 3. 2011-02-08 [13]Re: is SHA256 file used or not ? 4. 2011-02-08 [15]Re

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Edward Martinez
On 02/08/11 12:45, Mihai Popescu wrote: OK, reading this, what to do next? If I will be concerned, i will wait. But why I should be concerned ? If I'm not concerned, can I install with wrong checksum? ... I think you need this: http://psychcentral.com/therapy/

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Nick Holland
On 02/08/11 15:45, Mihai Popescu wrote: ... I will send here another thing. I hope it will be received nicely. I mean I don't know how to tell it to be nice for everyone. But I will tell it: parts of FAQ go into being more difficult and more abstract than the style it use to be back in time.

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-08 Thread Daniel Ouellet
I've been told I succeed from time to time. :) Men I fell bad now! Only from time to time!? Men, you are doing an incredible job and I sure hell do not envy you by a very long shut! I am the first buyer of Nick book with plenty of Nick-isims in it! (; The FAQ is actually what got me going

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Mihai Popescu
I'm not sure I got it right, because I'm not familiar with the checksum procedure. I will make a short text below, to show how I see the process and maybe someone can pinpoint the mistakes. The *.tgz files are obtained by tree compilation so there is a new set and sha256s are compiled for each

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:49:29 +0200 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: please tell me how to use this SHA256 file then? There was a thread recently about this where theo threatened to remove them, please don't. It is only guaranteed for releases and not snapshots, where it will be hit and

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Benjamin Nadland
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:27:52AM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:49:29 +0200 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: please tell me how to use this SHA256 file then? There was a thread recently about this where theo threatened to remove them, please don't. It is

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread David Walker
Hello. Mihai Popescu mihaipbs () gmail ! com wrote: Hello I'm installing ... from snapshots. SHA256 invalid checksums ... ... SHA256 from ftp.openbsd.org ... Some good search terms there. http://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Aopenbsd.org+snapshot+install+sha256

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Mihai Popescu
So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? I still don't figure out why this checksum missmatch is ( on the same server, not among servers).

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Benjamin Nadland
On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 12:38:37PM +0100, Benjamin Nadland wrote: On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:27:52AM +, Kevin Chadwick wrote: On Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:49:29 +0200 Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: please tell me how to use this SHA256 file then? There was a thread recently

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread David Walker
Howdy. Mihai Popescu mihaipbs () gmail ! com wrote: So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? Some guy said ... Do you not want it to be there for official releases? How about if I remove the code now.

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Philip Guenther
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com wrote: So the process I thought about it's not true. Better to remove the SHA256 then, what purpose can it serve if it is not syncronised? Practice for release, perhaps? If they cause too much of an uproar in snapshots, then

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Mihai Popescu
Hello Philip Guenther, It looks like your answer is the most valuable for me. So, by my understanding, the developer compiles and gets the *.tgz files, uploads them to the ftp server but he doesn't compile the sha256 checksum each times for those files. I don't know why, because i'm not familiar

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-07 Thread Henning Brauer
* Mihai Popescu mihai...@gmail.com [2011-02-07 21:26]: It looks like your answer is the most valuable for me. So, by my understanding, the developer compiles and gets the *.tgz files, uploads them to the ftp server but he doesn't compile the sha256 checksum each times for those files. I don't

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-06 Thread Miod Vallat
I'm installing from time to time the -current from snapshots. Today I run in an old issue: SHA256 invalid checksums for base install. The situation is like this: SHA256 from ftp.openbsd.org has a file with checksums for x* packages. The same file on ftp openbsd.informatik.erlangen.de dosn't

Re: is SHA256 file used or not ?

2011-02-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* Miod Vallat m...@online.fr [2011-02-06 20:02]: I'm installing from time to time the -current from snapshots. Today I run in an old issue: SHA256 invalid checksums for base install. The situation is like this: SHA256 from ftp.openbsd.org has a file with checksums for x* packages. The same