Re: SETTLED - Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-27 Thread Michael Adam
Hi Richard, Richard P. Koett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm coming in rather late on this discussion - just curious about the formatting step? Presumably you would do something like: $ fdformat fd0 Yes exactly, but the low level formatting was not the question. But thanks for answering

Re: SETTLED - Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-27 Thread Roger Neth Jr
Hello, I haven't had any problems with fdformat and easy to use. Best regards, rogern John 3:16 From: Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: SETTLED - Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386) Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:57:58 +0200 Hi Richard, Richard P. Koett

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well yes, it is working. But still: The floppy does have a disklabel which does only have partition c by default. And it seems strange to me, that I should create a filesystem on a partition c. And even stranger, this file system can afterwards be

SETTLED - Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-26 Thread Michael Adam
Hi Jonathan, I finally found a satisfactory answer from the sources. See below. Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: c is always the whole disk and because the disk has no disklabel and no partition table, it's also a. Well, the floppy _does_ have a disklabel. By default, it only has

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-25 Thread Michael Adam
Hi JCR, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as I can tell, you basically asked for the right or preferred way of putting a filesystem onto a floppy Yes, that is exactly my question. The best answer I know is fdformat. It works. It's simple and it's the most commonly accepted way to

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, as I wrote above, I know about the fdformat program, and low level formatting is actually not what my question was aimed at -- it was aimed at the disklabel / filesystem level of formatting. But this may have got lost in my overly long email. :-)

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Michael Adam
Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which is the right or preferred way to do so (since there are, as I pointed out several possible ways). I already answered that before: Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Floppies usually don't

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Hannah Schroeter
Hello! On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 07:57:55AM -0700, Spruell, Darren-Perot wrote: [...] Is there any reason to use FFS on a floppy? Won't FAT (-12, or whatever) work fine? Could you just mformat it and be along? Of course there is. Just take a look at the boot floppies, for example. Or think of the

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread Michael Adam
Spruell, Darren-Perot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any reason to use FFS on a floppy? Won't FAT (-12, or whatever) work fine? Could you just mformat it and be along? Yes, in fact there are: 1. As a matter of principle. 2. I need the FFS file permissions and ownerships on the floppy.

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-24 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:13:08 +0200, Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which is the right or preferred way to do so (since there are, as I pointed out several possible ways). I already answered that

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-23 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Floppies usually don't have a partition table nor a disk label, so just newfs fd0c and you should be fine. -- Jonathan

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-23 Thread STeve Andre'
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 10:58, Michael Adam wrote: Hi, I could not tell from the documentation which is the proper way to setup and use floppy disks on the i386 architecture, i.e. which is the right partition to use. I am talking about the standard 3.5 inch 1.44 MB floppy disks. There are

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-23 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:58:47 +0200, Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I could not tell from the documentation which is the proper way to setup and use floppy disks on the i386 architecture, i.e. which is the right partition to use. I am talking about the standard 3.5 inch 1.44 MB floppy

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-23 Thread Michael Adam
Hi Steve, On 8/23/05, STeve Andre' wrote: I would avoid all this and use the 'mtools' package instead. It deals with msdos fat-12(?) floppies, and is tons easier to use. Then you can hand those floppies to others and they can read/write them. Using fat on the floppy is not an option. I

Re: proper way to format/use floppies (i386)

2005-08-23 Thread Michael Adam
Hi, On 8/23/05, J.C. Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:58:47 +0200, Michael Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] First of all, a floppy needs to be low level formatted, which can be achieved by the fdformat program. (Ususally, this is not necessary nowadays, since