Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-23 Thread John Rodenbiker
You should not have to touch every end user workstation to make such a simple config change. Windows, Outlook, and Active Directory can be controlled via scripting. (Yes, I'm going out on a limb and guessing you're in the 90% of businesses that run all three for end users and their

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Jacob Yocom-Piatt
Stephen Schaff wrote: I just moved my super-fantastic spamd soekris in front of a new mail server that requires SMTP Auth to send mail... and it broke. No one can send mail from that server. My old server didn't require SMTP Auth and it worked fine. i have spamd setup at work and have users

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Peter Hessler
have your smtp-auth people use port 587/465[1]. That will also solve the problem of traveling users being blocked at public access points. [1] smtp+sasl or smtp wrapped in ssl, depending on the client. Don't forget to enable this in your MTA. On 2007 May 22 (Tue) at 10:22:19 -0600

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Chad M Stewart
Since having users change their settings can be problematic in many environments, instead change the MX record. This way you can implement spamd right away and your users will not have to change anything. Though I would suggest moving the users to 587/465 in the future so that they don't

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Bob Beck
Trust me - bit the bullet and change to 587/465 anyway. we had to for road warriors because 25 is blocked in so many places anyway from walkups. You're better just getting your users to switch. * Chad M Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-22 12:46]: Since having users change

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Stephen Schaff
That's a really good point. However we have about 200 users we'd have to get to switch their mail settings - 99% of don't know what mail settings are of course. Changing ports could prove very painful. I will definitely consider it though, given how painful email is without greylisting.

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Peter Hessler
Write them step by step instructions, with screenshots for the client they use. Tell them they have 30 days (for example), remind them at 15 and the day before. I've done the above at several work sites (400ish and 50ish), and once management was on board, it was very simple. A tiny bit of

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Stephen Schaff wrote: That's a really good point. However we have about 200 users we'd have to get to switch their mail settings - 99% of don't know what mail settings are of course. Changing ports could prove very painful. I will definitely consider it though, given how painful email is

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Bob Beck
arlo guthrie ... We walked in, sat down, Obie brought up the the help desk page with the twenty seven 800 x 600 colour glossy screenshots with circles and arrows and a paragraph below each one explaining what each one was to be used to show Windows users what to do. Luser came in and

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread Peter Hessler
Ah, yes. That refers to normal instructions, usually by corporations that charge you obscene amounts of money to send you gibberish. But it is possible to write instructions that people can follow. And if you get mgmt to agree, you can require people read your instructions. Do this, or your

Re: smtp auth + greylisting

2007-05-22 Thread RW
On Tue, 22 May 2007 16:08:10 -0600, Bob Beck wrote: arlo guthrie ... We walked in, sat down, Obie brought up the the help desk page with 8snip And you can get anything you want at Bob Beck's Restaurant, as long as it's moose! Loved it Bob! You are not just a good coder. Thanks, the