On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:45:01PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
I've lost 3 due to washing...
I've revived many with a toothbrush and alcohol.
It's not the water, but all of the stuff that deposits on the thing.
Still, just take the backups...
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:45:01PM -0500, sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
I've lost 3 due to washing...
So, stop washing your clothes ;-)
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 05:28:06PM -0700, Greg Thomas wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
wrote:
On Thu, 20 May 2010 18:53:38 +0200
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
* Xavier Beaudouin k...@oav.net [2010-05-20 17:34]:
And if you don't want to suffer because of a harddisk failure you can also
use
flashrd to make the openbsd stuff on a DOM, a Compact Flash or even an USB
* Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk [2010-05-21 11:28]:
On Thu, 20 May 2010 18:53:38 +0200
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
* Xavier Beaudouin k...@oav.net [2010-05-20 17:34]:
And if you don't want to suffer because of a harddisk failure you can
also use
flashrd to
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 09:01, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
cut the crap. take a random usb stick and don't mail misc until
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:25:00AM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
On Thu, 20 May 2010 18:53:38 +0200
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
* Xavier Beaudouin k...@oav.net [2010-05-20 17:34]:
And if you don't want to suffer because of a harddisk failure you can
also use
flashrd
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 11:25 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
However, the root partion is not often written to so presumably I could
have / on
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 04:28:32PM +0100, John Rowe wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 11:25 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
However, the
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
2) flash never fails, right. fuck redundancy, I have flash!
when you say flash are you talking about
http://www.transcendusa.com/products/ModDetail.asp?ModNo=177
or
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive
the
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote
USB sticks primary cause of death is the washing machine and/or dryer.
Second one probably is sitting out in the sun.
I have yet to see the USB stick that dies because it was written to.
A bit confusing :-(
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
cut the crap. take a random usb stick and don't mail misc until it
fails due to exceeded write cycles. we'll never again hear form you
On Fri, 21 May 2010 16:28:32 +0100
John Rowe r...@excc.ex.ac.uk wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 11:25 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
However, the root partion is not often written to so presumably I could
have / on the USB stick and swap, /var, /usr, /tmp et al. on a mirrored
pair?
You probably already have, but it's often a good idea to have a
separate /var/log partition to allow more control over running out of
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 05:05:19PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
cut the crap. take a random usb stick and don't mail misc until it
On May 21 16:28:32, John Rowe wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 11:25 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
However, the root partion is not often
Jan Stary wrote:
On May 21 16:28:32, John Rowe wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 11:25 +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote:
If you check usb flash stick packaging, it may say guaranteed for a
1000 writes which is marketing crypto speech for, sectors may fail after
1000 writes.
However, the
* Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com [2010-05-21 19:13]:
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
2) flash never fails, right. fuck redundancy, I have flash!
when you say flash are you talking about
On Fri, 21 May 2010 10:13:33 -0700 Siju George sgeorge...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
wrote
USB sticks primary cause of death is the washing machine and/or
dryer. Second one probably is sitting out in the sun.
I have yet to see the
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote:
USB sticks primary cause of death is the washing machine and/or dryer.
Second one probably is sitting out in the sun.
I have yet to see the USB stick that dies because it was written to.
Funny thing is I still
Water by itself is pretty harmless to most electronic components - as
long as
there is no power present. If it is thoroughly and completely dried
before
power is applied, there's unlikely to be any issues.
Even the heat of the drier is unlikely to be a problem. Consumer
electronic
components
I've lost 3 due to washing...
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 05:28:06PM -0700, Greg Thomas wrote:
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
wrote:
USB sticks primary cause of death is the washing machine and/or dryer.
Second one probably is sitting out in
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Henning Brauer
lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
I'm talking about common flash types. no specific products.
Sorry to confuse you :-( I was also not talking about products but the
two differrent category of stuff both commonly called here as flash
Thanks
I ran a firewall/server for a year on a flash stick with full logging.
No problems.
As an ex-chip-verification-engineer, the BIG caveat is temperature.
Failures will at least double for every 10C above 20C or so.
Heat is electronics most vicious enemy.
geoff steckel
curmudgeon for hire, rent, or
I need an inexpensive OpenBSD system that will survive a disk failure,
to act as a firewall.
My understanding from the on-line documentation and the list archives is
that the new RAID system, softraid, does not support having the root
partition on RAID meaning that if the system disk fails the
* John Rowe r...@excc.ex.ac.uk [2010-05-20 16:02]:
I need an inexpensive OpenBSD system that will survive a disk failure,
to act as a firewall.
wrong approach, see below
My understanding from the on-line documentation and the list archives is
that the new RAID system, softraid, does not
What is the most recent OpenBSD release that does support and document
installing on to RAID?
none.
it's pointless anyway. use two machines and carp, et voila, resilent
against a lot more things than just disk failures.
And if you don't want to suffer because of a harddisk failure you can
If your firewall has to run in not so hostile conditions like sub-zero
temperatures or large temp differences over short time (typically
right under the roof), consider using flash memory (CF-ATA converters
being available around 20 USD) instead of hard disk + eventually mfs
for some logging or
* Xavier Beaudouin k...@oav.net [2010-05-20 17:34]:
And if you don't want to suffer because of a harddisk failure you can also use
flashrd to make the openbsd stuff on a DOM, a Compact Flash or even an USB
key.
1) flashrd and friends are bullshit, just use your CF/DOM/Whatever
like a
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