Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-20 Thread David Diggles
Thanks Christian Specifying the MAC you suggested makes a big jump in performance. SSH Options: [-o Ciphers=arcfour128 -o MACs=umac...@openssh.com] 98.65026953028924143858 MB/s 94.75118186708754888342 MB/s 93.67964795503113387533 MB/s 77.35326700132979443792 MB/s SSH Options: [-o

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-20 Thread David Diggles
The previous tests were reading from striped disks 4 spindles, writing to /dev/null This is the best so far, with fetching 4 compressed 500MB files on a remote ramdisk, local output going to /dev/null All on 10GigE in the same room. OUTDIR: [/dev/null] SSH Options: [-o Ciphers=arcfour128 -o

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Jan Stary
On Jul 19 11:58:21, David Diggles wrote: I am looking for ways to speed up scp over 10GigE. With parallel transfer of 4x 8GB files, I get the following test results with various ciphers. These tests maxed out 4 cores with encryption overhead. SSH Options: [] 42.19127261151704773780 MB/s

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Dan Shechter
Hi David, Do you see high CPU during transfer? If you you don't see high CPU, it _could_ be related to round trip time and window size. HTH, Bring order to your Private VLAN network: http://marathon-networks.com On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:58 AM, David Diggles da...@elven.com.au wrote:

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread David Diggles
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 08:08:26AM +0200, Jan Stary wrote: have you also tried -o 'Compression no'? I have now. No real difference; SSH Options: [-o Ciphers=arcfour -o Compression=no] 64.68132476895114469583 MB/s 63.56096147431307883010 MB/s 61.69097005503488103824 MB/s

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I am looking for ways to speed up scp over 10GigE. With parallel transfer of 4x 8GB files, I get the following test results with various ciphers. is it local network? why do you encrypt at all? The data itself is not sensitive and does not really need to be encrypted, although security

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
maybe off topic but what is MAXPHYS set in compiled kernel? every BSD flavor i've seen sets it way too low for modern drives. 2MB is smallest IMHO value that make sense on modern drives. you may experience lots of seeking when reading 4 files from same disk On Thu, 19 Jul 2012, David Diggles

Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Fil DiNoto
I noticed a huge difference in SCP speeds by changing the client. For example the client WinSCP is much slower than FileZilla. I am uncertain if there is any significant difference between SCP and SFTP protocols (I think SCP2 is SFTP). I know both are handled by the SSH server. On Thu, Jul 19,

Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
I regularly do use rsh and rcp in my work. and ssh/scp when needed (public network) Do you work with a small trusted group, because many attacks come from co-workers. -- Why not do something good every day and install BOINC.

Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I regularly do use rsh and rcp in my work. and ssh/scp when needed (public network) Do you work with a small trusted group, because many attacks come from co-workers. depends on assumption. For every business i work i assume that co-workers doesn't harm and that's agreed with the boss.

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Christian Weisgerber
David Diggles da...@elven.com.au wrote: I am looking for ways to speed up scp over 10GigE. With parallel transfer of 4x 8GB files, I get the following test results with various ciphers. These tests maxed out 4 cores with encryption overhead. Assuming that crypto actually is your

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:47:12 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar wrote: depends on assumption. For every business i work i assume that co-workers doesn't harm and that's agreed with the boss. Believe me that will change one day. Never had a trusted employee poached by a competitor for example?

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Believe me that will change one day. Never had a trusted employee poached by a competitor for example? I just dare to say even greatest software will not solve it. But believing it will make a danger Once more i propose moving off list, and you've sent me something privately as my logs shows

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Peter Laufenberg
My yahoo account separates out the many list mails. I sometimes feel a Th problem is not yahoo but all such services. Yahoo, gmail, hotmail, @wp.pl etc... are all here to control people. nothing else. You should avoid every large corporation touching your private data. But... they're free :)

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Joakim Dellrud
Ontopic: just a noob question, can you use a tcp lb or similar to spread the load? Thinking relayd and whatever the shared interface is called. Or are limited to one machine? Off topic some do not have the will to setup their own mail server. And they read or reg everything anyway... On Jul 19,

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
You should avoid every large corporation touching your private data. But... they're free :) Great quote I forgot where from: when you don't know what the product is -- the product is you this is what i was talking about. But thanks for citation - it compressed my multisentence explanation

Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Ontopic: just a noob question, can you use a tcp lb or similar to spread the load? Thinking relayd and whatever the shared interface is called. Or are limited to one machine? from the topic it seems that network itself and tcp transport isn't a problem here.

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 02:25:18AM -0700, Fil DiNoto said that I noticed a huge difference in SCP speeds by changing the client. client weirdness is a topic of its own. for example: total commander sftp plugin. on my home network: 1. start the transfer: speed around 160 KB/s 2. cancel

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-19 Thread Courtney R. Spencer
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:17 PM, David Diggles da...@elven.com.au wrote: Hmmm, ok... hpn-ssh looks like the go. http://www.psc.edu/index.php/hpn-ssh http://www.nren.nasa.gov/hpn_ssh.html http://www.hpsc.csiro.au/userguides/faq/ssh.php#hpn-ssh hpn-ssh is a very good solution Along with

Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-18 Thread David Diggles
I am looking for ways to speed up scp over 10GigE. With parallel transfer of 4x 8GB files, I get the following test results with various ciphers. These tests maxed out 4 cores with encryption overhead. SSH Options: [] 42.19127261151704773780 MB/s 41.32435720074992870891 MB/s

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-18 Thread David Diggles
Hmmm, ok... hpn-ssh looks like the go. http://www.psc.edu/index.php/hpn-ssh http://www.nren.nasa.gov/hpn_ssh.html http://www.hpsc.csiro.au/userguides/faq/ssh.php#hpn-ssh

Re: Speeding up scp over 10GigE, suggestions?

2012-07-18 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
use mosh or LFTP with pget i.e lftp -c pget -n10 sftp://someuser@someserver:somefile mosh is a bit weirder in that it will multiplex transfers via udp sessions... Try lftp first IMHO it is the best swiss army knife of filetransfer utils. -JoelW @aenertia