Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread Owain Ainsworth
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 04:40:51PM -0800, James Hozier wrote: My MacBook Pro's wireless doesn't work, which is a big thing for me...I couldn't get X to work, either. Details (including dmesg and failed xorg.log) to myself and matthieu@ please. Unless it is nvidia. In which case don't bother,

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread Pete Vickers
My MacBookPro with a recent snapshot works pretty good: # sysctl hw.product hw.product=MacBookPro2,2 # ifconfig athn0 athn0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 lladdr 00:19:e3:d9:96:9b priority: 4 groups: wlan egress media: IEEE802.11

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread David Vasek
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Pete Vickers wrote: My MacBookPro with a recent snapshot works pretty good: # sysctl hw.product hw.product=MacBookPro2,2 FYI, the current MacPook Pro model is NVidia all the way. The wireless adapter is a Broadcom BCM4322. Other current Apple machines are very similar

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread James Hozier
Yea, as an earlier post said the wireless is a BCM4322 and is unsupported and the graphics is nVidia. :( --- On Mon, 1/18/10, Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Which laptops do the developers use? To: James Hozier

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread David Vasek
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Pete Vickers wrote: # cat /var/run/dmesg.boot OpenBSD 4.6-current (GENERIC.MP) #391: Fri Jan 15 14:55:45 MST 2010 t...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.33 GHz cpu0:

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread James Hozier
wrote: From: Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Which laptops do the developers use? To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:11 PM On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:45:37AM -0800, James Hozier wrote: Yea, as an earlier post said the wireless

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread Pau
/18/10, Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Owain Ainsworth zer...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Which laptops do the developers use? To: James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com Date: Monday, January 18, 2010, 4:11 PM On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 06:45:37AM -0800, James Hozier wrote: Yea

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Pau vim.u...@googlemail.com wrote: Thinkpad x200s works perfectly -the usb ports seem to be identified as 1.0, so that the speed is very low, but that is seemingly not a problem of open, but of the bios reporting a wrong value (see previous thread in misc)

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Pau vim.u...@googlemail.com wrote: Thinkpad x200s works perfectly -the usb ports seem to be identified as 1.0, so that the speed is very low, but that is seemingly not a problem of open,

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread Ted Unangst
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: Thinkpad x200s works perfectly They attach as ehci on mine, though I'm not seeing particularly speedy transfers. the config of the ports seems to be different, by virtue of the magnetized or demagnetized nature of

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-18 Thread STeve Andre'
On Monday 18 January 2010 16:14:57 James Hozier wrote: Yea, that's why I want to buy a ThinkPad but I don't know which models are 100% supported out of the box with no problems and everything works (graphics, sound, keyboard, wireless, etc.) with OpenBSD so I'm asking which ones the devs use

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-10 Thread nixlists
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: My MacBook Pro's wireless doesn't work, which is a big thing for me...I couldn't get X to work, either. Does MacBook Pro have one of those mini-ePCI cards that can be replaced, or is it soldered on-board?

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-10 Thread James Hozier
: nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Which laptops do the developers use? To: misc@openbsd.org Date: Sunday, January 10, 2010, 10:59 PM On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:40 PM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: My MacBook Pro's wireless doesn't work, which is a big thing for me...I

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-10 Thread nixlists
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:12 PM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: Either way, I'd either have to spend money on a replacement mini-PCI card or a USB wireless card. I'd rather just buy a new laptop; I don't like the hardware scheme anyway (with the EFI partition and all that instead of

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-10 Thread Henning Brauer
* nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com [2010-01-11 02:20]: If I'd want to buy a laptop, I'd want nothing else than the recent MacBook or MacBook Pro stockholm syndrome -- Henning Brauer, h...@bsws.de, henn...@openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-10 Thread nixlists
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote: * nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com [2010-01-11 02:20]: If I'd want to buy a laptop, I'd want nothing else than the recent MacBook or MacBook Pro stockholm syndrome Hostages don't shop around for captors. Nice try

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-09 Thread James Hozier
My MacBook Pro's wireless doesn't work, which is a big thing for me...I couldn't get X to work, either. --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Olivier Cherrier o...@symacx.com wrote: From: Olivier Cherrier o...@symacx.com Subject: Re: Which laptops do the developers use? To: nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com Cc

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-08 Thread Antoine Jacoutot
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Ted Unangst wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks. I understand the problem with maintaining a list like that, but personally, i prefer a list with a note explaining the situation, than no list at all. Some stuff would

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-08 Thread Ted Unangst
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 4:34 AM, Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote: On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Ted Unangst wrote: Are fingerprint readers listed on www.openbsd.org/i386.html? No? Then they aren't supported. Mine works fine on lenovo x300 with sysutils/login_fingerprint. Yeah, actually,

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of answers eg. here http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=developer+laptopq=b and info from this page http://www.openbsd.org/want.html : Laptops. These die often enough that our developers need about 2-3

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:57:58PM +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of answers eg. here http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=developer+laptopq=b and info from this page http://www.openbsd.org/want.html :

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Marco Peereboom
It was removed because it was out of date and didn't contain anything really useful. Laptops basically work just fine with OpenBSD minus some moody ones. On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:57:58PM +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread nixlists
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: It was removed because it was out of date and didn't contain anything really useful. Laptops basically work just fine with OpenBSD minus some moody ones. MacBook? MacBook Air? PowerBook? Supported at all?

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Ishwor Gurung
2010/1/8 Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us: It was removed because it was out of date and didn't contain anything really useful. Laptops basically work just fine with OpenBSD minus some moody ones. My oldish dell 6000 laptop runs just perfect on openbsd. Couple of years back, suspend

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread nixlists
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Matthias Kilian k...@outback.escape.de wrote: MacBook? MacBook Air? PowerBook? Supported at all? PowerBook? Sure. But I don't see how this is related to i386-laptop.html. Oops. Meant MacBook Pro. Sorry.

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:10:34PM -0500, nixlists wrote: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: It was removed because it was out of date and didn't contain anything really useful. Laptops basically work just fine with OpenBSD minus some moody ones.

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Christiano Farina Haesbaert
2010/1/7 nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: It was removed because it was out of date and didn't contain anything really useful. Laptops basically work just fine with OpenBSD minus some moody ones. MacBook? MacBook Air?

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 07:39:09PM -0200, Christiano Farina Haesbaert wrote: 2010/1/7 nixlists nixmli...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: It was removed because it was out of date and didn't contain anything really useful. Laptops

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Ishwor Gurung
2010/1/8 Christiano Farina Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org: [...] I sold it and bought a lenovo x61s, couldn't be happier. I got myself an x61 too. It runs Linux 2.6 though. Wooops! did I just say Linux? :-) -- Regards Ishwor Gurung Key id:0xa98db35e Key fingerprint:FBEF 0D69 6DE1 C72B A5A8

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:57:58PM +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of answers eg. here

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 09:15:44 +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:57 AM, Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us wrote: On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 11:57:58PM +0800, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim jfs.wo...@gmail.com wrote: thanks. I understand the problem with maintaining a list like that, but personally, i prefer a list with a note explaining the situation, than no list at all. Some stuff would be laptop-specific as well (as opposed to

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-07 Thread Olivier Cherrier
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 04:50:48PM -0500, nixmli...@gmail.com wrote: MacBook? MacBook Air? PowerBook? Supported at all? PowerBook? Sure. But I don't see how this is related to i386-laptop.html. Oops. Meant MacBook Pro. Sorry. Yes, it works. -- Olivier Cherrier - Symacx.com

Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-02 Thread James Hozier
I didn't want to bother all of them with e-mails so hopefully if any of them see this post, they might respond. Or if someone knows which models they are using they can let me know.

Re: Which laptops do the developers use?

2010-01-02 Thread Tomas Bodzar
A lot of answers eg. here http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscw=2r=1s=developer+laptopq=b and info from this page http://www.openbsd.org/want.html : Laptops. These die often enough that our developers need about 2-3 replacements a year. is somewhat descriptive too. On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 5:03 PM,