Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-31 Thread Alexander Hall
patrick keshishian wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Alexander Hall ha...@openbsd.org wrote: Lars Nooden wrote: I don't need it currently. I did get good benefits out of it with some embedded devices I used to need frequently. It made start up noticeably faster on a pair of net4801

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread Alexander Hall
Lars Nooden wrote: I don't need it currently. I did get good benefits out of it with some embedded devices I used to need frequently. It made start up noticeably faster on a pair of net4801 boxes that ran (mostly) only dhcpd + pf + ftp via inetd YMMV Seriously, how much time did you gain

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread patrick keshishian
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Alexander Hall ha...@openbsd.org wrote: Lars Nooden wrote: I don't need it currently. I did get good benefits out of it with some embedded devices I used to need frequently. It made start up noticeably faster on a pair of net4801 boxes that ran (mostly)

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread Lars Nooden
patrick keshishian wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Alexander Hall ha...@openbsd.org wrote: Lars Nooden wrote: I don't need it currently. I did get good benefits out of it with some embedded devices I used to need frequently. It made start up noticeably faster on a pair of net4801

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:46:07PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: Seriously, how much time did you gain every reboot? 15 secs? And how often did you really reboot those boxes? Frequent power outages? I'm certainly not defending the use-case for this program/script, but, 15 seconds per

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread Miod Vallat
Some day you plug in your latest USB-powered dildo and it doesn't work (because dmassage disabled it), and you're scratching your head (or other hairy body parts) about why it doesn't work. Your logic seems to imply heads are hairy. This is not necessarily the case, especially when your

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:29:43PM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote: | Think modded 'switch' or 'router' instead. The idea is that if I plug | in an appliance, whether at the start of the day or when I moved in the | lab or to another lab or when I swap CF cards[1], by the time I can get | my hand over

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread Marco Peereboom
But it's in the name!! On Dec 30, 2009, at 14:28, Matthias Kilian k...@outback.escape.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:46:07PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: Seriously, how much time did you gain every reboot? 15 secs? And how often did you really reboot those boxes? Frequent power

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread Ted Unangst
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 3:46 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: I'm certainly not defending the use-case for this program/script, but, 15 seconds per boot is quite a bit of time. Don't think servers, think laptops. If one powers on/off their laptop two times a day, ignoring

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-30 Thread patrick keshishian
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Matthias Kilian k...@outback.escape.de wrote: On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:46:07PM -0800, patrick keshishian wrote: Seriously, how much time did you gain every reboot? 15 secs? And how often did you really reboot those boxes? Frequent power outages? I'm

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-27 Thread Marco Peereboom
Maybe that's a hint to not use kernel modifying tools that do things that are unexpected. On Dec 26, 2009, at 13:35, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: When I run dmassage, the resulting modifications prevent using raid. dmassage -f /bsd | config -e -o /nbsd /bsd If I

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-27 Thread Lars Nooden
I don't need it currently. I did get good benefits out of it with some embedded devices I used to need frequently. It made start up noticeably faster on a pair of net4801 boxes that ran (mostly) only dhcpd + pf + ftp via inetd YMMV Now I wanted to see if it worked with a more complex set up.

dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-26 Thread Lars Nooden
When I run dmassage, the resulting modifications prevent using raid. dmassage -f /bsd | config -e -o /nbsd /bsd If I understand correctly, the softraid device is showing in the dmesg, so it shouldn't get removed by dmassage. excerpt from diff of dmesg's after dmassage and before

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-26 Thread Ted Unangst
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote: When I run dmassage, the resulting modifications prevent using raid. dmassage -f /bsd | config -e -o /nbsd /bsd If I understand correctly, the softraid device is showing in the dmesg, so it shouldn't get removed

Re: dmassage skipping softraid

2009-12-26 Thread Tomas Bodzar
What;s the point of use of this app? Of course that I read this http://www.sentia.org/projects/dmassage/ , but is it really so faster after that? I haven't problem with speed of boot in OpenBSD. It's quite similar as in Ubuntu and kernel size is 7.2MB. Page says that last version is from 2002. A