Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-16 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 07:09:03 +0200 roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:46:41 -0700 patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: as this, where -- the mortal is accused to be a whiner. (...) the key words were every time this happens ... if you find an error

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-16 Thread Frank Bax
Marco Peereboom wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 01:08:25AM +, JC Choisy wrote: That being out of the way, you got me wondering what good is any integrity check which failure is OK. It is only meant to help uptight people having some sort of false sense of integrity/security. It really is

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Scott McEachern sc...@blackstaff.ca [2010-10-16 05:31]: I sometimes see the snaps (or X) haven't been built for a few or more days, and I was just wondering why that is? plenty of possibilities. theo (or todd when it comes to X) was gone or had better stuff to do a problem with copying snaps

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-16 Thread eagirard
From: Theo de Raadt deraadt () cvs ! openbsd ! org Date: 2010-10-16 0:29:52 I should have actually shown how much was mismatched...and it's more than just the kernel: ---(fine details skipped)-- JC

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-16 Thread Tony Abernethy
Frank Bax wrote: Marco Peereboom wrote: On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 01:08:25AM +, JC Choisy wrote: That being out of the way, you got me wondering what good is any integrity check which failure is OK. It is only meant to help uptight people having some sort of false sense of

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-16 Thread frantisek holop
hmm, on Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 07:09:03AM +0200, roberth said that On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:46:41 -0700 patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: as this, where -- the mortal is accused to be a whiner. (...) the key words were every time this happens ... if you find an error or

i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread JC Choisy
Hi, The kernel in latest i386 and amd64 snapshots has a sha256 checksum that doesn't match what's listed in the SHA256 file. bsd.rd complains about this when trying to upgrade. This is with the snapshots of Oct. 14th Thanks, -jc

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Allie Daneman
I should have actually shown how much was mismatched...and it's more than just the kernel: (SHA256) bsd: FAILED (SHA256) bsd.mp: FAILED (SHA256) bsd.rd: OK (SHA256) cd48.iso: FAILED (SHA256) cdboot: FAILED (SHA256) cdbr: FAILED (SHA256) cdemu48.iso: FAILED (SHA256) comp48.tgz: FAILED (SHA256)

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Allie Daneman
I can also confirm this on 2 different US ftp servers. JC Choisy(tin...@tinono.com)@Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 08:58:49PM +: Hi, The kernel in latest i386 and amd64 snapshots has a sha256 checksum that doesn't match what's listed in the SHA256 file. bsd.rd complains about this when trying

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
I should have actually shown how much was mismatched...and it's more than just the kernel: (SHA256) bsd: FAILED (SHA256) bsd.mp: FAILED (SHA256) bsd.rd: OK (SHA256) cd48.iso: FAILED (SHA256) cdboot: FAILED (SHA256) cdbr: FAILED (SHA256) cdemu48.iso: FAILED (SHA256) comp48.tgz: FAILED (SHA256)

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread JC Choisy
Theo de Raadt deraadt at cvs.openbsd.org writes: With snapshots, this will happen from time to time. If people start not understanding why the install media does this check, and that failure is OK, then I will remove the code on the install media. Adjust your expectations. A hash failure

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
OpenBSD-current is most of the times an excellent quality system, better and more reliable than most other 'stable' systems. This may alter one's ability to keep his expectations where they should be. That being out of the way, you got me wondering what good is any integrity check which failure

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 01:08:25AM +, JC Choisy wrote: Theo de Raadt deraadt at cvs.openbsd.org writes: With snapshots, this will happen from time to time. If people start not understanding why the install media does this check, and that failure is OK, then I will remove the code on

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Allie Daneman
Okey dokey...now I know. Hmmm...I've followed snaps for years and always check sums...and I can't remember a time that they failed. Well no worries...I'll roll with it, thanks for the reality check. Theo de Raadt(dera...@cvs.openbsd.org)@Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 06:29:52PM -0600: Snipped...

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread JC Choisy
Marco Peereboom slash at peereboom.us writes: It is only meant to help uptight people having some sort of false sense of integrity/security. It really is for release only because snapshots are a moving target. In my opinion the whole check is a giant waste of time because every damn time

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Scott McEachern
On 10/15/10 20:29, Theo de Raadt wrote: Another alternative is that I only do snapshot builds about every 2 weeks. How's that idea? A little off-topic, but now's as good a time as any to ask: I sometimes see the snaps (or X) haven't been built for a few or more days, and I was just

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread patrick keshishian
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: OpenBSD-current is most of the times an excellent quality system, better and more reliable than most other 'stable' systems. This may alter one's ability to keep his expectations where they should be. That being out of

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: OpenBSD-current is most of the times an excellent quality system, better and more reliable than most other 'stable' systems. This may alter one's ability to keep his expectations where they should be. That being out of

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
I sometimes see the snaps (or X) haven't been built for a few or more days, and I was just wondering why that is? The person who does builds has a life. Is the build automated, or manually run? The builds are not done automated. Automated build structures don't work. The tree does not

Re: i386 and amd64 snapshots - kernel SHA256 mismatch

2010-10-15 Thread roberth
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:46:41 -0700 patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com wrote: as this, where -- the mortal is accused to be a whiner. (...) the key words were every time this happens ... if you find an error or something strange, most likely you aren't the first to have encountered it.