Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-22 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 09:29:57PM -0600, Gordon Klok wrote: On 18-Mar-08, at 5:14 AM, bofh wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Johan Mson Lindman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the key here is that not everything needs to be a 4 cpu quad core with 128Gigs of ram, and not that

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Johan Mson Lindman
On Monday 17 March 2008 22:12:05 you wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. That is no big deal, however. sendmail

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Siegbert Marschall
On Monday 17 March 2008 22:12:05 you wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. That is no big deal, however. sendmail

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread William Boshuck
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:16:13AM +0100, Siegbert Marschall wrote: On Monday 17 March 2008 22:12:05 you wrote: ... Got any more _freebsd_ success stories for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^^ No. But I will be shutting down a ten year old

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread bofh
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Johan Mson Lindman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice! Got any more _freebsd_ success stories for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the key here is that not everything needs to be a 4 cpu quad core with 128Gigs of ram, and not that it was running freebsd or openbsd. --

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Marcus Andree
snip back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. That is no big deal, however. sendmail and any Unix like system can handle that without problem. Agreed. People nowadays seem to wrongly

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 09:56:44PM +0100, Marc Balmer wrote: back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. Out of curiousity: Was that with or without spamfilters and virusscanning? These two seem to cause

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Marcus Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-18 12:31]: snip back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. That is no big deal, however. sendmail and any Unix like system can handle that without

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Jussi Peltola
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 01:11:45PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: well. it depends a LOT on your users' usage profile. I could not serve our customers from such an old machine. ok, the frontends are still 360MHz Sun netra t1s. But the storage backend is a 14 disk raid5 of 15k RPM U320 drives,

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Henning Brauer
* Jussi Peltola [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-18 15:41]: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 01:11:45PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: well. it depends a LOT on your users' usage profile. I could not serve our customers from such an old machine. ok, the frontends are still 360MHz Sun netra t1s. But the

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Marcus Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-18 12:31]: snip back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. That is no big deal, however. sendmail and any Unix like system can

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Gordon Klok
On 18-Mar-08, at 5:14 AM, bofh wrote: On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Johan Mson Lindman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice! Got any more _freebsd_ success stories for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the key here is that not everything needs to be a 4 cpu quad core with 128Gigs of ram, and not

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread Marcus Andree
I've just finished a small argument with some colleages here at work. They just couldn't believe a Pentium 133 was serving a hundred e-mail accounts... Even in death we can count on OpenBSD to show how things should be done. RIP. On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Alexander Bochmann [EMAIL

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread Marc Balmer
Marcus Andree wrote: I've just finished a small argument with some colleages here at work. They just couldn't believe a Pentium 133 was serving a hundred e-mail accounts... back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread bofh
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Marcus Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just finished a small argument with some colleages here at work. They just couldn't believe a Pentium 133 was serving a hundred e-mail accounts... Did you not remind them the earliest UNIX systems had 64K of ram and

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread bofh
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Marc Balmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. That is no big deal, however. sendmail and any Unix like system can handle that without

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread raven
Marcus Andree ha scritto: I've just finished a small argument with some colleages here at work. They just couldn't believe a Pentium 133 was serving a hundred e-mail accounts... Even in death we can count on OpenBSD to show how things should be done. RIP. I still use an Pentium 166 with 64

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread L. V. Lammert
At 05:09 PM 3/17/2008 -0400, bofh wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Marcus Andree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just finished a small argument with some colleages here at work. They just couldn't believe a Pentium 133 was serving a hundred e-mail accounts... Did you not remind them

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
raven schreef: I still use an Pentium 166 with 64 Mb with FreeBSD 5.2 that handle 400 email accounts without problem :) a pic of my beast http://raven.lilik.it/foto/im000785.jpg (it's an old pic) Doesn't matter that much in case of machine pictures, it get's worse with people when the pics

the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-16 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...was rather unspectacular: Hardware failiure. The system's name was base, originally installed with OpenBSD 2.3 on Jun 12, 1998: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5 Jun 12 1998 etc/myname It ran the OpenBSD 2.3 kernel and most of the userland until it stopped responding about three weeks ago and

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-16 Thread Jay Hart
I will drink a beer to commemorate our lose. Jay ...was rather unspectacular: Hardware failiure. The system's name was base, originally installed with OpenBSD 2.3 on Jun 12, 1998: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5 Jun 12 1998 etc/myname It ran the OpenBSD 2.3 kernel and most of the userland

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-16 Thread Nickolay A. Burkov
Thanks for interesting story; very sadly. Just out of curiosity, what hardware was it? On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 01:23:52PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote: ...was rather unspectacular: Hardware failiure. The system's name was base, originally installed with OpenBSD 2.3 on Jun 12, 1998:

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-16 Thread Alexander Bochmann
...on Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 05:11:10PM +0300, Nickolay A. Burkov wrote: Thanks for interesting story; very sadly. Just out of curiosity, what hardware was it? Can't find a dmesg currently, but from memory the original setup was something like: Pentium-133, 32MB RAM. 4GB Quantum IDE HDD,

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-16 Thread scott
I too retired a long serving oBSD/Pentium-Pro 200 back in November. As one door closes ... fyi ... openBSD 4.3 is still small-iron friendly. I run an stock install42 and 43 (no skinny or other customizations), exclusive of the X and compiler sets, and it installs to and runs from a 256MB CF