a) you're wrong
b) you don't know what problem he is trying to solve.
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:28 AM, Salim Shaw salims...@vfemail.net wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, IPv6.
On 14/05/2013 16:18, David Coppa wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark Duller mark.dul...@it.ox.ac.uk wrote:
The OP was talking about laptops... Ideally one would buy a laptop that
works well with OpenBSD, but sometimes choice is limited due to
workplace requirements etc.
For a
Mark Duller wrote:
I wasn't able to get the webcam working this time (in previous versions
I got it working, though not reliably). I used the 'video' command but
it just gives 'video: could not find a usable encoding' even trying
various options. dmesg shows the following but uvideo0 doesn't
..and it's even more usable with current.
On Jun 12, 2013 5:41 PM, Mark Duller mark.dul...@it.ox.ac.uk wrote:
On 14/05/2013 16:18, David Coppa wrote:
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark Duller mark.dul...@it.ox.ac.uk
wrote:
The OP was talking about laptops... Ideally one would buy a
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Pau vim.u...@gmail.com wrote:
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
please contact me off list. Thanks
I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try
BSDmag and similar resources), but it's
On 13/05/2013, at 22:12, Pau vim.u...@gmail.com wrote:
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
please contact me off list. Thanks
Doing statistical consulting for the pharma industry using 99% OpenBSD. Basic
toolkit is LaTeX+R, both edited with vim, and
14 08:38:43 CEST 2013
To: vim.u...@gmail.com vim.u...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: who is using obsd
On 13/05/2013, at 22:12, Pau vim.u...@gmail.com wrote:
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
please contact me off list. Thanks
Doing statistical consulting
Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013 um 08:31 Uhr
Von: Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
please contact me off list. Thanks
I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can try
BSDmag and similar
On 14/05/2013 10:15, Stefan Wollny wrote:
Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2013 um 08:31 Uhr Von: Tomas Bodzar
tomas.bod...@gmail.com
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific
work? please contact me off list. Thanks
I'm not sure if there will be some official readings
Hi All,
usage of an OS for desktop purposes is quite a broad term.
Few cases for obsd not suitable as desktop:
- At home, the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) for obsd on desktop is negative
due lack of skype, and flash player.
- At work, need for virtual machines on laptop is a must, not very well
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:18:07AM +0100, Mark Duller wrote:
Unless s.o. has to use some proprietary software that is tighly
linked to internals of an other OS there is no technical reason to
use any other OS as a basis for a desktop system
except for resume from suspend not working and
My impression is that most people who pretend that OpenBSD is not
suited as a desktop system are either ingnorant or just outright
lazy: - Ignorant on the fine work the developers and countless
porters did and/or - lazy to read the documentation (or if of
non-english mothertongue: too lazy to
Few cases for obsd not suitable as desktop:
- At home, the WAF (Wife Acceptance Factor) for obsd on desktop is negative
due lack of skype, and flash player.
WAF: Good point! Hard to tackle ... :-)
Skype: Valid argument - I have to agree that nowadays this is a requirement for
a general-purpose
Scott,
I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We have
over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know what works
for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server environments.
Be sure to keep your job.
On 05/13/2013 06:59 PM, Scott McEachern
Skype: Valid argument - I have to agree that nowadays this is a requirement
for a general-purpose desktop system (let's not discuss 'confidentiality'
for now...)
Sorry - I couldn't resist:
The German IT-news site http://www.heise.de reported a few minutes ago that
Microsoft reads along
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:34:27AM -0400, Salim Shaw wrote:
Scott,
I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We
have over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know
what works for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server
environments.
I agree with your practicalities. We as IT professionals have to be
careful when thrashing people. You never know who you're impacting and I
personally would love to see OpenBSD take over the dominance of Cisco. I
hate closed source with a vengeance, unfortunately we have to support it
due to
On 14/05/2013 12:09, Stefan Wollny wrote:
My impression is that most people who pretend that OpenBSD is
not suited as a desktop system are either ingnorant or just
outright lazy: - Ignorant on the fine work the developers and
countless porters did and/or - lazy to read the documentation (or
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Mark Duller mark.dul...@it.ox.ac.uk wrote:
The OP was talking about laptops... Ideally one would buy a laptop that
works well with OpenBSD, but sometimes choice is limited due to
workplace requirements etc.
For a desktop computer I totally agree. I wouldn't
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez
alv...@alvaromantilla.com wrote:
2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net
Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent
2013/5/14 Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM, Pau vim.u...@gmail.com wrote:
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
please contact me off list. Thanks
I'm not sure if there will be some official readings available (you can
The OP stated he was asking about laptops, and went to the trouble of
sending a second email specifying he was talking about scientific
research. I know this is misc@, but can we try and stay on-topic? And
even if sometimes we learn something from 'what-do-you-use-it-for'
discussions, I believe we
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 08:34:27AM -0400, Salim Shaw wrote:
Scott,
I'll be sure not to give up my day job at DUKE Medical Center. We
have over 20,000 employees in this medical institution and we know
what works for desktops and we know what works for enterprise server
environments.
As an
on his/her laptop as *only* OS and uses it daily for scientific work?
please contact me off list. Thanks
PS: scientific: physics, math, bio, etc...
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square
peg/round hole.
On 05/13/2013 05:12 PM, Pau wrote:
on his/her laptop as
Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling,
IPsec, IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of
square peg/round hole.
Salim, that's
2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net
Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling,
IPsec, IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate
On May 13, 2013 4:33 PM, Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net wrote:
Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling,
IPsec, IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the
On 05/13/13 17:28, Salim Shaw wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec,
IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of
square peg/round hole.
You're quite a
You are wrong with your statement that OpenBSD is not designed for the
desktop. We are running several hundred desktop on the enterprise, thin
clients and so on ...
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 17:28 -0400, Salim Shaw wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
Flame bait. Not even funny.
Salim Shaw salims...@vfemail.net wrote:
OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for
desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec,
IPv6.
Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square
peg/round
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