Re: Network performance

2005-05-24 Thread Johan Sunnerstig
Hi, More Mhz. Not crappy nics, get xl,fxp,dc etc. Or maybe gigabit nics like em(4). I think he has xl and sk in the machine, sk is probably the most decent thing one can get at the moment. xl I had quite mixed results in the past, so changing that one into another sk

Re: IMAP servers

2005-05-24 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Gaby vanhegan dixit: What IMAP servers do people use for email access? uw-imapd's imapd for imaps (port 993) access; sendmail with uw-imapd's dmail/tmail instead of mail.local(8) for delivery to MBX format mailboxes. Allows concurrent access. uw-imaps allows reading arbitrary files on the

Re: How to debug something like this?

2005-05-24 Thread Wijnand Wiersma
2005/5/24, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, never really looked at it. But I was dissapointed 2.0s4 was in ports. My fault. I had been away from the computer for a while for strong reasons, ...hard times. We all forgive you. And that port only had mysql support and

Re: kernel pppoe problems

2005-05-24 Thread Adam Gleave
In that case, it's likely not a PPPoE problem at all but a name server resolution, surely? Try adding it back and pinging an ip rather than a domain, that should tell you. On 24/05/05, Chris Zakelj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason Ackley wrote: Is this something that you are able to repeat? E.g.

Re: IMAP servers

2005-05-24 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Rod.. Whitworth dixit: You really believe those UW people really can consider something unsafe It was considered so by the OpenBSD porter. UTSL. before they clean up their own exploit history? Insane? The sky is falling! I don't know about many IMAP servers but I know that UW-IMAP is considered

Re: Certified Hardware

2005-05-24 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tue, 24 May 2005 12:49:43 +0200 Habex Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are considering replacing our current CheckPoint FireWall-1 with openBSD. However our internal policies require us to have certified hardware to run on production systems. Sera Systems, http://www.serasystems.com/, sells

Re: Certified Hardware

2005-05-24 Thread C. Bensend
I've heard good things about Sera although I've yet to try them out personally. I had nothing but good experiences with Kevin and the folks over at Sera Systems. I would not hesitate to recommend them. Benny -- You come from a long line of scary women. -- Ranger, Three To

NIC bonding/trunking/802.3ad

2005-05-24 Thread Hyb
Hi list, It seems that the topic of 802.3ad support (link aggregation|bonding|trunking|whatever you want to call it) seems to come every so often, but is often disregarded on the basis that gigE is now cheap. I see the redudancy as a much more valuable asset though. We have been recently

Xorg problem with Intel 82852GM on OpenBSD 3.7

2005-05-24 Thread Murat Mamitov
Hello, i try to resend my demand for aid... I've installed OpenBSD 3.7 on my HP Compaq NX5000 (with 855GM chipset). I'd like to use X above, but when i try to launch startx i recive the follow error: -- (EE)

Re: NIC bonding/trunking/802.3ad

2005-05-24 Thread Niall O'Higgins
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 02:01:23PM +0100, Hyb wrote: It seems that the topic of 802.3ad support (link aggregation|bonding|trunking|whatever you want to call it) seems to come every so often, but is often disregarded on the basis that gigE is now cheap. I see the redudancy as a much more

Re: NIC bonding/trunking/802.3ad

2005-05-24 Thread Hyb
- Original Message - From: Niall O'Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Hyb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: misc@openbsd.org Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: Re: NIC bonding/trunking/802.3ad speak of the devil! reyk@ got there already ...

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Niall O'Higgins
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 04:00:20PM +0100, Gaby vanhegan wrote: I have acquired some second-hand dual processor servers with the intention of putting OpenBSD with on them. I have put Debian on one of them and FreeBSD on another, and am pounding them as hard as I can with setiathome to see

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Jason Dixon
On May 24, 2005, at 11:43 AM, Gaby vanhegan wrote: On 24 May 2005, at 16:00, Gaby vanhegan wrote: Is there a similar burn-testing app that I can run on OpenBSD to test the stability of the machines over a 12 day period? I should have mentioned that there will be a prize* for the most

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread STeve Andre'
On Tuesday 24 May 2005 11:00, Gaby vanhegan wrote: Hi, I have acquired some second-hand dual processor servers with the intention of putting OpenBSD with on them. I have put Debian on one of them and FreeBSD on another, and am pounding them as hard as I can with setiathome to see if they

Re: Weight attribute in openBGPd

2005-05-24 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 10:22:49AM +0200, Alexander Bochmann wrote: ...on Mon, May 23, 2005 at 11:40:00PM +0200, Henning Brauer wrote: -[bgpd.conf(5)- weight number The weight is used to tip prefixes with equally long AS paths in one or the other direction. A

auvia and the VT8233/VT8235 for AC97 audio

2005-05-24 Thread Josh Grosse
Way back on 24 Feb 2005, a user wrote about struggling with the auvia driver, and began a conversation here on misc@ with Bruno Rohee about the use of mixerctl with this particular driver. Apparently, after turning off all outputs.*.mute, they both were able to only get audio output only thru

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Will H. Backman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gaby vanhegan Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 11:43 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: Burn Testing On 24 May 2005, at 16:00, Gaby vanhegan wrote: Is there a similar burn-testing app that I can run

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Frank Denis \(Jedi/Sector One\)
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 04:00:20PM +0100, Gaby vanhegan wrote: I have acquired some second-hand dual processor servers with the intention of putting OpenBSD with on them. I have put Debian on one of them and FreeBSD on another, and am pounding them as hard as I can with setiathome to see

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Adam Papai
Gaby vanhegan wrote: On 24 May 2005, at 16:00, Gaby vanhegan wrote: Is there a similar burn-testing app that I can run on OpenBSD to test the stability of the machines over a 12 day period? I should have mentioned that there will be a prize* for the most creative suggestion. Gaby.

Re: Certified Hardware

2005-05-24 Thread Matt Provost
On May 24 12:49 PM, Habex Tim wrote: Dear, We are considering replacing our current CheckPoint FireWall-1 with openBSD. However our internal policies require us to have certified hardware to run on production systems. Therefore we are looking for certified hardware (+maintenance contract)

Re: auvia and the VT8233/VT8235 for AC97 audio

2005-05-24 Thread Can Erkin Acar
Josh Grosse wrote: [snip] I have a VT8235 southbridge chip, providing integrated AC97 audio.I just want 2-channel (stereo) output, but am only able to obtain left-channel output from the soundcard. I'm running 3.7-release, and of course its using the auvia(4) driver. [snip] ac97: codec

filesystem snapshots?

2005-05-24 Thread Stephan Wehner
Is mksnap_ffs(8) from FreeBSD available in OpenBSD? (It allows taking a snapshot of a filesystem.) It seems not available as far as I can tell. Are there plans? Stephan

Re: Buying CD's in Calgary

2005-05-24 Thread Roy Morris
Cameron Schaus wrote: Does anyone know where I could buy OpenBSD CD's in Calgary? I used to buy them at Nexus Computer Books, but now that they are gone, I'm not sure where to buy the CD's in Calgary. Thanks, Cam Run over to Theo's house and wake him up, or as an alternate what about the

Re: NIC bonding/trunking/802.3ad

2005-05-24 Thread Jim Razmus
* Niall O'Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] [050524 11:10]: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 02:01:23PM +0100, Hyb wrote: It seems that the topic of 802.3ad support (link aggregation|bonding|trunking|whatever you want to call it) seems to come every so often, but is often disregarded on the basis that gigE

Re: Buying CD's in Calgary

2005-05-24 Thread Adam Gleave
why not https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order ? On 24/05/05, Cameron Schaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I could buy OpenBSD CD's in Calgary? I used to buy them at Nexus Computer Books, but now that they are gone, I'm not sure where to buy the CD's in Calgary. Thanks,

Re: kernel pppoe problems

2005-05-24 Thread Can Erkin Acar
Jason Ackley wrote: Can you try turning on the debug flag to pppoe0 ? Good advice, debug mode gives lots of useful output also tcpdump on the parent interface, eg. 'tcpdump -nei fxp0 no ip' helps. I just tested this in a lab setup and it would not connect unless the debug flag was set on the

Re: filesystem snapshots?

2005-05-24 Thread Pedro Martelletto
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:03:25AM -0700, Stephan Wehner wrote: Is mksnap_ffs(8) from FreeBSD available in OpenBSD? nope Are there plans? yup -p.

Re: filesystem snapshots?

2005-05-24 Thread Pedro Martelletto
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:41:20AM -0700, Stephan Wehner wrote: Is there something usable right now? nope, but i will let you know as soon as there is cheers, -p.

Re: filesystem snapshots?

2005-05-24 Thread Stephan Wehner
Is there something usable right now? Stephan On 5/24/05, Pedro Martelletto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:03:25AM -0700, Stephan Wehner wrote: Is mksnap_ffs(8) from FreeBSD available in OpenBSD? nope Are there plans? yup -p.

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Frank Bax
At 11:41 AM 5/24/05, Niall O'Higgins wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 04:00:20PM +0100, Gaby vanhegan wrote: I have acquired some second-hand dual processor servers with the intention of putting OpenBSD with on them. I have put Debian on one of them and FreeBSD on another, and am pounding

Re: auvia and the VT8233/VT8235 for AC97 audio

2005-05-24 Thread Josh Grosse
Can Erkin Acar wrote: I have a patch for this. It will be fixed in -current soon. Can Wonderful news! If you need it tested, please let me know. -Josh-

Re: Buying CD's in Calgary

2005-05-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
why not https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order ? On 24/05/05, Cameron Schaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know where I could buy OpenBSD CD's in Calgary? I used to buy them at Nexus Computer Books, but now that they are gone, I'm not sure where to buy the CD's in Calgary.

Re: Fwd: Xorg problem with Intel 82852GM on OpenBSD 3.7

2005-05-24 Thread Adam Gleave
This might sound stupid, but have you tried changing the default depth? I know i810 should support 24 bit, but hey it's worth a try.

Re: Email Server

2005-05-24 Thread hellsop
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 09:18:58AM -0700, Bruno Delbono wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ports aren't generally checked for much other than Does it build? and Does it work?. So, secure by default means that you should only run OpenBSD as it comes and do not touch anything on it. Or else,

fwbus gone missing??

2005-05-24 Thread Folkert Saathoff
hello list, can anyone tell me why there is no fwbus support in OPENBSD_3_7 anymore? or more to the point, can anyone tell me how to use my IEEE1394 pci controller + hdd on my freshly compiled OPENBSD_3_7 system? thnx/ cheers, /folkert

Re: Certified Hardware

2005-05-24 Thread eric
On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 12:49:43 +0200, Habex Tim proclaimed... Therefore we are looking for certified hardware (+maintenance contract) to replace our current (expired) Nokia 440. Keep the IP440's and just run openbsd on them. works like a champ.

djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Anders Jönsson
Hello folks. I recently bought a very good book: Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD security They have a chapter dealing with DNS servers and there they mention djbdns, they think it has some strong point s so I am somewhat curios about if anybody out there has any viewpoint about using this instead

djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Anders Jönsson
Hello folks. I recently bought a very good book: Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD security They have a chapter dealing with DNS servers and there they mention djbdns, they think it has some strong point s so I am somewhat curios about if anybody out there has any viewpoint about using this instead

Re: Buying CD's in Calgary

2005-05-24 Thread Jim Henderson
The Calgary Unix Users Group is meeting tonight and they'll be selling them. Why not buy a t-shirt too? http://www.cuug.ab.ca/ Cameron Schaus wrote: Does anyone know where I could buy OpenBSD CD's in Calgary? I used to buy them at Nexus Computer Books, but now that they are gone, I'm not

Re: Fwd: Xorg problem with Intel 82852GM on OpenBSD 3.7

2005-05-24 Thread Murat Mamitov
Yes, i tried to change the depth, the same problem. I tried apg and vesa drivers too, nothing... i recived the same error. On 5/24/05, Adam Gleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This might sound stupid, but have you tried changing the default depth? I know i810 should support 24 bit, but hey it's

Re: fwbus gone missing??

2005-05-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
--On 24 May 2005 22:42 +0200, Folkert Saathoff wrote: can anyone tell me why there is no fwbus support in OPENBSD_3_7 anymore? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-cvsm=111006724728554w=2

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Francisco de Borja
What about running [EMAIL PROTECTED] on the openbsd box? I do not test it, but some googling returns interesting urls: http://www.mwjr.btinternet.co.uk/seti/description.html http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/unix.html On Tue, 24 May 2005 16:00:20 +0100 Gaby vanhegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: fwbus gone missing??

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Kuethe
There never was real fwbus support - sure, there was some code being lightly hacked on, but it was never enabled for real. Import: Add FireWire to kernel config. (disabled for now, not production quality yet)

Re: fwbus gone missing??

2005-05-24 Thread STeve Andre'
On Tuesday 24 May 2005 16:42, Folkert Saathoff wrote: hello list, can anyone tell me why there is no fwbus support in OPENBSD_3_7 anymore? or more to the point, can anyone tell me how to use my IEEE1394 pci controller + hdd on my freshly compiled OPENBSD_3_7 system? thnx/ cheers, /folkert

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Han Boetes
Anders Jvnsson wrote: They have a chapter dealing with DNS servers and there they mention djbdns, they think it has some strong point s so I am somewhat curios about if anybody out there has any viewpoint about using this instead of BIND, *shrug* there is nothing OpenBSD specific about

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Allie D.
I have used djbdns since '02with no issues whatsoever. You'll love the data file structure compared with BIND. Anders Jvnsson said: Hello folks. I recently bought a very good book: Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD security They have a chapter dealing with DNS servers and there they mention

Re: Certified Hardware

2005-05-24 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 5/24/05, eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 12:49:43 +0200, Habex Tim proclaimed... Therefore we are looking for certified hardware (+maintenance contract) to replace our current (expired) Nokia 440. Keep the IP440's and just run openbsd on them. works like a

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Stephan Wehner
Is it not just a license problem that keeps djbdns out of the BSD's ? If it wasn't pretty secure it would be well known; there is a djbdns security guarantee, http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/guarantee.html Stephan On 5/24/05, Anders Jvnsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks. I recently bought a

Re: kernelized pppoe in 3.7

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Zakelj
Can Erkin Acar wrote: Theo de Raadt wrote: [snip] 2. Will hostname.pppoe be able to handle special cases like Jens' # character in the username without any special devices, will quotes (single, double, or otherwise) handle it, or will those people need to rely on the userland driver for

Re: kernel pppoe problems

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Zakelj
Can Erkin Acar wrote: I can't see any problem report about this in my inbox (which is quite a mess nowadays, so it is equally likely that I missed it), If you can spare some time to send me pppoe debug outputs, tcpdumps with without the debug flag, and if possible logs/dumps from the cisco

Re: Certified Hardware

2005-05-24 Thread mmiranda
wrote: On 5/24/05, eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 12:49:43 +0200, Habex Tim proclaimed... Therefore we are looking for certified hardware (+maintenance contract) to replace our current (expired) Nokia 440. Keep the IP440's and just run openbsd on them. works like

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Petr Ruzicka
I used to run OpenBSD BIND for a long time. After couple of patches I decided to try djbdns and it was perfectly OK with me. As for configuration as for simplicity as for function. There are some features that are missing in djbdns but otherwise I do run it for about 4 years (tinydns and dnscache

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Emilio Perea
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 11:25:35PM +0200, Anders Jvnsson wrote: Hello folks. I recently bought a very good book: Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD security They have a chapter dealing with DNS servers and there they mention djbdns, they think it has some strong point s so I am somewhat curios

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread jared r r spiegel
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:15:01PM -0700, Allie D. wrote: I have used djbdns since '02with no issues whatsoever. You'll love the data file structure compared with BIND. or you'll hate it and find it wretched. but at least his webpage is still up. jared -- [ openbsd 3.7 GENERIC (

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 24 May 2005 22:13:34 +0200, Anders Jvnsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks. I recently bought a very good book: Mastering FreeBSD and OpenBSD security They have a chapter dealing with DNS servers and there they mention djbdns, they think it has some strong point s so I am somewhat

OBSD 3.7 ports -- mysql

2005-05-24 Thread Russell Fulton
Hi Folks, I've just installed mysql from the ports on my 3.7 system. All went well (I did not see any errors) but so far as I can see only the client stuff was installed. The server is there in the ports tree under /usr/local/libexec/mysqld but it is not installed. Nor does there

hostapd(8)

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Zakelj
Ok, I thought I installed everything, but maybe not, because my 3.7 install doesn't have hostapd(8). So, doing a bit of googling, it looks like the initial commit was on 4/13, which I think was somewhere around the time 3.7 was frozen. So... did hostapd(8) just miss being included in

Re: hostapd(8) (NEVERMIND)

2005-05-24 Thread Chris Zakelj
Chris Zakelj wrote: Ok, I thought I installed everything, but maybe not, because my 3.7 install doesn't have hostapd(8). So, doing a bit of googling, it looks like the initial commit was on 4/13, which I think was somewhere around the time 3.7 was frozen. So... did hostapd(8) just miss

Re: OBSD 3.7 ports -- mysql

2005-05-24 Thread Bryan Allen
On May 24, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Russell Fulton wrote: Hi Folks, I've just installed mysql from the ports on my 3.7 system. All went well (I did not see any errors) but so far as I can see only the client stuff was installed. The server is there in the ports tree under

Desktop chrooted

2005-05-24 Thread Stephan Wehner
Does it make sense to run the Desktop (e.g., X11 / Gnome / clients) chroot'ed? Non-technical users can live without all the rest. Stephan

Re: OBSD 3.7 ports -- mysql

2005-05-24 Thread Stephen Marley
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 01:25:48PM +1200, Russell Fulton wrote: Hi Folks, I've just installed mysql from the ports on my 3.7 system. All went well (I did not see any errors) but so far as I can see only the client stuff was installed. The server is there in the ports tree under

Re: Desktop chrooted

2005-05-24 Thread Steve Shockley
Stephan Wehner wrote: Does it make sense to run the Desktop (e.g., X11 / Gnome / clients) chroot'ed? Non-technical users can live without all the rest. Please don't reply to a message when starting a new thread. What problem are you trying to solve? If the user is chrooted into the home

Re: OBSD 3.7 ports -- mysql

2005-05-24 Thread St.Roy
Russell Fulton wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:31 -0400, Bryan Allen wrote: I would have found it really helpful if the 'make install' had warned me that there were sub-packages and referred me to the man page. I'd be happy to submit a patch to do this if I could figure out where

Re: OBSD 3.7 ports -- mysql

2005-05-24 Thread Gerardo Santana Gómez Garrido
This can help: bsd.port.mk(5) On 5/24/05, Russell Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 22:31 -0400, Bryan Allen wrote: On May 24, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Russell Fulton wrote: Hi Folks, I've just installed mysql from the ports on my 3.7 system. All went well (I

Re: OBSD 3.7 ports -- mysql

2005-05-24 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Just FYI. I am finishing up a port that hopefully will be put in for MySQL 4.1.12, their latest recommended stable version. So far all works well and pass all the tests suites stuff, with the exception that I have to create three hard link to make it work still, but I am working on

Re: Burn Testing

2005-05-24 Thread Sean Brown
On May 24, 2005 9:43 am, Gaby vanhegan wrote: On 24 May 2005, at 16:00, Gaby vanhegan wrote: Is there a similar burn-testing app that I can run on OpenBSD to test the stability of the machines over a 12 day period? I should have mentioned that there will be a prize* for the most creative

Re: Buying CD's in Calgary

2005-05-24 Thread Robin Greig
And what an awesome meeting it was. About as many developers as attendees Thanks to Theo Gang for the talk and QA even though we were a shy bunch. Obviously too impressed with the presentation by Ryan. Henning enjoy your extended stay here. Now, where can you pick up one of those

Re: djbdns DNS server? Status, Pros and Cons?

2005-05-24 Thread Theo de Raadt
Is it not just a license problem that keeps djbdns out of the BSD's ? just That word really does not belong there. That's a phrase used in english often used to express how small a problem is. It is not a small problem. It is fatal.