[SOLVED] Re: Strange VPN problem
Hi, On Wed, 03.01.2007 at 22:54:16 +0100, Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a very odd problem with a VPN machine. The situation: nevermind, it was human error (expired certificates) after all. I have to find out whether the error messages should have told me this earlier on, or whether I was only too blind to see. Best, --Toni++
Re: OT Was: Wanted: OpenBSD Systems Administrator
On 1/4/07 2:17 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote: Get real, meta postings (postings about other postings) also build this misc community. You cannot expect a channel to carry 100% data (relevance), What should we insist on? Is there something to insist on on an open list? As I tried to explain, an open list is kept in check with in-band signaling (posting yells and good examples.), it can not operate without some loss, people need for example space to post excuses and those can be inspiring examples themselves. This list is what is, very nice mix of beginners and highly experienced people. The stupid questions of the beginners keep the experienced nicely with the feet on the ground and the thorough answers of the experienced give the stupids something to learn. How about 20%? Like clocks and PLL's for 10b/8b encoding as used in Ethernet? A proven fruitful compromise. Or can we aim higher? SONET has about 0.1% but needs far better clocks and PLL's (a one should be correctly detected after 1000 zero's.) that would need higly educated newbies and far more experienced developers! I presume those don't exist. Even Theo talking to Theo himselves wouldn't reach that. Nope. We can't aim higher when there are people like you, full of hate, and once again not adding real content. Theo! you are paranoid, I love you and OpenBSD! Really!!! XXX chefren (Happy New Year to all!)
landisk (plextor) installation question
Hello, I got a plextor PX-EH16L yesterday, it has the required serial console and I now have a linux login console. The following file (ftp://ftp.belnet.be/pub/packages/openbsd/snapshots/landisk/INSTALL.landisk) mentions this: Preparing your System for OpenBSD Installation: --- To be able to boot the OpenBSD/landisk installation program, you will need to copy a miniroot image onto the CF or harddrive that the machine uses. The plextor has a samsung harddrive. I'm sorry if this sounds stupid, but what is the easiest or fastest way to get this miniroot image (miniroot40fs) on the harddrive? Do I have to mount the drive in other PC and install this miniroot image a special way? I would really appreciate if someone could give me further directions. Thank you very much! Regards Didier
Re: landisk (plextor) installation question
Didier Wiroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got a plextor PX-EH16L yesterday, it has the required serial console and I now have a linux login console. The following file (ftp://ftp.belnet.be/pub/packages/openbsd/snapshots/landisk/INSTALL.landisk) mentions this: Preparing your System for OpenBSD Installation: --- To be able to boot the OpenBSD/landisk installation program, you will need to copy a miniroot image onto the CF or harddrive that the machine uses. The plextor has a samsung harddrive. I'm sorry if this sounds stupid, but what is the easiest or fastest way to get this miniroot image (miniroot40fs) on the harddrive? Do I have to mount the drive in other PC and install this miniroot image a special way? I would really appreciate if someone could give me further directions. Yes. Swap drive to another box and 'dd if=miniroot40.fs of=/dev/rwd1c' it over. Swap back and boot. Sadly your disk will only run in PIO 4 mode because of some DMA bug ... martin
Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so, well. -this list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite google.com/bsd) got me where I was going. The OS -how long will it last? I hope forever. But nothing lasts forever. I do have an old host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm sure there are those on this list with longer. First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but thanks. Secondly, I think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage time which says what kind of machine you have. You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not some bragbox) says what kind of software and hardware stresses have been going. I've got over 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all pf, spamassassin and mplayer. Not all.
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Re: OT Was: Wanted: OpenBSD Systems Administrator
Theo de Raadt wrote: Nope. We can't aim higher when there are people like you, full of hate, and once again not adding real content. i hate those haters! we should hang their leader, it will fix everything. ;)
T-shirt question
Hello, I placed an order for an OpenBSD t-shirt on December 23rd, and nobody got back to me. I used the On-Line ordering site (https://https.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/order) Thank you. -- # Bruno Gallant - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.imageine.com
Anone using A8V-VM mother board on OpenBSD 4.0/amd64 and getting proper sound output?
Hi, I am able to hear only very low sound using the A8V-VM motherboard on OpenBSD 4.0/amd64. Could Somebody help me troubleshoot it please? Details below Thankyou so much :-) kind regards Siju = $ mixerctl -a outputs.dac02.source=hdaudio inputs.dac03.mute=off inputs.dac03=123,123 inputs.dac04.mute=off inputs.dac04=123,123 inputs.dac05.mute=off inputs.dac05=123,123 outputs.mix09.mute=off inputs.mix09.dac04.mut=off inputs.mix09.dac05.mut=off inputs.sel0a.source=mix07 inputs.sel0b.source=mix07 inputs.sel0c.source=dac04 inputs.sel0d.source=dac05 inputs.sel0e.source=mix08 inputs.sel0f.source=pink1f outputs.sel0f=85,85 inputs.sel10.source=blue20 inputs.sel11.source=sel0f inputs.sel12.source=sel11 outputs.sel12.mute=off outputs.sel12=119,119 outputs.sel13.mute=off outputs.sel13=123,123 outputs.sel14.mute=off outputs.sel14=123 outputs.sel15.mute=off outputs.sel15=123,123 outputs.sel16.mute=off outputs.sel16=123,123 outputs.sel17.mute=off outputs.sel17=123,123 inputs.sel18.source=beep19 outputs.sel18.mute=on outputs.sel18=119 outputs.green1a.mute=off outputs.green1a=123,123 outputs.green1a.boost=on outputs.green1b.mute=off outputs.green1b=123,123 outputs.green1b.boost=off outputs.blue1c.mute=off outputs.blue1c=123,123 outputs.blue1c.dir=output outputs.pink1d.mute=off outputs.pink1d=123,123 outputs.pink1d.dir=output outputs.unknown1e.mute=off outputs.unknown1e=123 outputs.pow26.source=mix07 inputs.usingdac=030405 $ mixerctl outputs.sel18.mute=off outputs.sel18.mute: on - on $ == $ cat /var/run/dmesg.boot OpenBSD 4.0 (GENERIC) #690: Sat Sep 16 20:26:25 MDT 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC real mem = 469037056 (458044K) avail mem = 389718016 (380584K) using 11502 buffers containing 47112192 bytes (46008K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0730 (54 entries) bios0: ASUSTeK Computer INC. A8V-VM cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+, 2200.44 MHz cpu0: FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SSE3,NXE,MMXX,FFXSR,LONG,3DNOW2,3DNOW cpu0: 64KB 64b/line 2-way I-cache, 64KB 64b/line 2-way D-cache, 512KB 64b/line 16-way L2 cache cpu0: ITLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative cpu0: DTLB 32 4KB entries fully associative, 8 4MB entries fully associative pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x0336 rev 0x00 pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x1336 rev 0x00 pchb2 at pci0 dev 0 function 2 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x2336 rev 0x00 pchb3 at pci0 dev 0 function 3 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x3336 rev 0x00 pchb4 at pci0 dev 0 function 4 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x4336 rev 0x00 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x5336 (class system subclass interrupt, rev 0x00) at pci0 dev 0 function 5 not configured pchb5 at pci0 dev 0 function 6 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x6290 rev 0x00 pchb6 at pci0 dev 0 function 7 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x7336 rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA K8HTB AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 vendor VIA, unknown product 0x3230 rev 0x01 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VIA VT8251 SATA rev 0x00: DMA pciide0: using irq 5 for native-PCI interrupt pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x07: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0: ST340014A wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 38166MB, 78165360 sectors wd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: SONY, DVD RW DRU-830A, SS20 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2 uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 4 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 5 usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x90: irq 6 usb3 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x90: irq 4 usb4 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub4 at usb4 uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr
Re: Wondering about usage of /usr/bin v /usr/local/bin...
Craig Skinner wrote on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 12:14:32PM +: On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 08:56:54PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: For example, on one small LAN with about 50 active users, i called that place /usr/usta: What does usta stand for? Oh, that's just kind of $site, see http://www.usta.de/ (in german). UStA = Unabhaengiger Studierenden-Ausschuss = independent student board, it's the executive committee elected by all the students of the University of Karlsruhe, working on student's social, political, cultural and economical affairs. The independent says that it's not organised in the (crippled) way prescribed by state and law, but instead in a more efficient and more democratic way decided upon in a public vote of all students held in 1977. but now have sort of settled on /usr/local/site/[s]bin, libexec,... for my local site specific scripts. Sounds very reasonable, imho.
Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
Umnada, Did you get his point? On 1/4/07, Umnada Tyrolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so, well. -this list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite google.com/bsd) got me where I was going. The OS -how long will it last? I hope forever. But nothing lasts forever. I do have an old host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm sure there are those on this list with longer. First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but thanks. Secondly, I think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage time which says what kind of machine you have. You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not some bragbox) says what kind of software and hardware stresses have been going. I've got over 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all pf, spamassassin and mplayer. Not all.
Slow RAID io
Hi all! Installed fresh CURRENT on intel NH/SR1475NH1, with Intel RAID SRCS16 (SATA), running RAID5. All hardware is recognised, but i have a problems with slow raid performance. maximum what i saw in iostat was a 8.2MB/s Any ideas? DMESG: OpenBSD 4.0-current (GENERIC) #1331: Wed Jan 3 09:48:30 MST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,EST,CNXT-ID,CX16 real mem = 1071697920 (1046580K) avail mem = 969449472 (946728K) using 4256 buffers containing 53735424 bytes (52476K) of memory RTC BIOS diagnostic error 80clock_battery mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 10/11/05, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xe4bd0 (33 entries) bios0: Intel Corporation SE7230NH1LX apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 0% apm0: AC off, battery charge unknown, estimated 0:00 hours apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios at bios0 function 0x1a not configured bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xb000 0xcb000/0x2400 acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel E7230 MCH rev 0x00 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801GB PCIE rev 0x01 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 Intel PCIE-PCIE rev 0x09 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 ami0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 Symbios Logic MegaRAID rev 0x01: irq 9 ami0: Intel RAID SRCS16, 64b/lhc, FW 713N, BIOS vG401, 64MB RAM ami0: 1 channels, 0 FC loops, 1 logical drives scsibus0 at ami0: 40 targets sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: AMI, Host drive #00, SCSI2 0/direct fixed sd0: 312804MB, 312804 cyl, 64 head, 32 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 640622592 sec total scsibus1 at ami0: 16 targets ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01 pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801G PCIE rev 0x01 pci4 at ppb3 bus 4 em0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82573E) rev 0x03: irq 10, address 00:16:76:94:e8:34 pciide0 at pci4 dev 0 function 2 vendor Intel, unknown product 0x108d rev 0x03: DMA (unsupported), channel 0 wired to native-PCI, channel 1 wired to native-PCI pciide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt pciide0: channel 0 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?) pciide0: channel 1 ignored (not responding; disabled or no drives?) Intel 82573E AMT rev 0x03 at pci4 dev 0 function 3 not configured Intel 82573E KCS (Active Management) rev 0x03 at pci4 dev 0 function 4 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 3 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 9 usb3 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801GB USB rev 0x01: irq 11 usb4 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub4 at usb4 uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered ppb4 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BA AGP rev 0xe1 pci5 at ppb4 bus 5 vga1 at pci5 dev 4 function 0 ATI ES1000 rev 0x02 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) em1 at pci5 dev 5 function 0 Intel PRO/1000MT (82541GI) rev 0x05: irq 10, address 00:16:76:94:e8:35 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 Intel 82801GB LPC rev 0x01: PM disabled pciide1 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 Intel 82801GB IDE rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 0 drive 0 scsibus2 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus2 targ 0 lun 0: LITE-ON, DVDRW SHM-165P6S, MS0M SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide1:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 4 pciide1: channel 1 ignored (disabled) pciide2 at pci0 dev 31 function 2 Intel 82801GB SATA rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to native-PCI, channel 1 configured to native-PCI pciide2: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 Intel 82801GB SMBus rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 adt0 at iic0 addr 0x2c: emc6d100 rev 0x68 adt1 at iic0 addr 0x2d: lm96000 rev 0x68 adt2 at iic0 addr 0x2e: emc6d100 rev 0x68 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
Umnada Tyrolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so, well. -this list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite google.com/bsd) got me where I was going. The OS -how long will it last? I hope forever. But nothing lasts forever. I do have an old host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm sure there are those on this list with longer. First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but thanks. Secondly, I think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage time which says what kind of machine you have. You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not some bragbox) says what kind of software and hardware stresses have been going. I've got over 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all pf, spamassassin and mplayer. Not all. # uptime 6:45PM up 9136 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.26, 0.12, 0.09 I win. http://www.blahonga.org/~art/diffs/epenis-enlargement.20060210 //art
Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
Hard to say. His message had a few different themes in it. He spoke about his dedication to the binary machine arts, but then confessed to using an expensive machine as a door stop? And, he praises the use he's gotten from OBSD and the list, but then jinxes it by questioning its direction and bringing up the issue of its lifecycle. I just wanted to bring up the issue of idle time versus cpu time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Der Engel Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:31 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad Umnada, Did you get his point? On 1/4/07, Umnada Tyrolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so, well. -this list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite google.com/bsd) got me where I was going. The OS -how long will it last? I hope forever. But nothing lasts forever. I do have an old host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm sure there are those on this list with longer. First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but thanks. Secondly, I think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage time which says what kind of machine you have. You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not some bragbox) says what kind of software and hardware stresses have been going. I've got over 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all pf, spamassassin and mplayer. Not all.
Re: .forward for procmail
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Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
Uh, mask back on (8D) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Artur Grabowski Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:12 AM To: Umnada Tyrolla Cc: 'Karl R. Balsmeier'; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad Umnada Tyrolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so, well. -this list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite google.com/bsd) got me where I was going. The OS -how long will it last? I hope forever. But nothing lasts forever. I do have an old host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm sure there are those on this list with longer. First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but thanks. Secondly, I think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage time which says what kind of machine you have. You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not some bragbox) says what kind of software and hardware stresses have been going. I've got over 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all pf, spamassassin and mplayer. Not all. # uptime 6:45PM up 9136 days, 5:29, 1 user, load averages: 0.26, 0.12, 0.09 I win. http://www.blahonga.org/~art/diffs/epenis-enlargement.20060210 //art
Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
'Hard to say'? That response means 'No, I didn't miss his point, I just want to be a hard-ass and then not really address it.' He praised the OpenBSD project and those responsible for it... because it's worth praising. Can't someone say something nice here without it being picked apart? I will end on a nice note (call it Leading by Example)... I agree completely with Karl's comments... OpenBSD rocks. Ducking, Dan Farrell Applied Innovations [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:37 AM To: 'Der Engel'; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad Hard to say. His message had a few different themes in it. He spoke about his dedication to the binary machine arts, but then confessed to using an expensive machine as a door stop? And, he praises the use he's gotten from OBSD and the list, but then jinxes it by questioning its direction and bringing up the issue of its lifecycle. I just wanted to bring up the issue of idle time versus cpu time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Der Engel Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:31 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad Umnada, Did you get his point? On 1/4/07, Umnada Tyrolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so, well. -this list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite google.com/bsd) got me where I was going. The OS -how long will it last? I hope forever. But nothing lasts forever. I do have an old host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm sure there are those on this list with longer. First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but thanks. Secondly, I think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage time which says what kind of machine you have. You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not some bragbox) says what kind of software and hardware stresses have been going. I've got over 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all pf, spamassassin and mplayer. Not all.
SUN Fire x2200, anyone?
Hello, I'm thinking about using a SUN Fire x2200 M2 as a combo style firewall machine, but could not find any experiences with it. The machine looks nice on paper, but the things stated about the x2100 (integrated RAID) were generally not so encouraging. So I thought I'd better ask... Best, --Toni++
Re: SUN Fire x2200, anyone?
On Jan 4, 2007, at 10:43 AM, Toni Mueller wrote: I'm thinking about using a SUN Fire x2200 M2 as a combo style firewall machine, but could not find any experiences with it. I've got an x2100 currently out of commission. If I can bring it up in the next week, I'll toss OBSD on it and see what happens and post back to the list. -- Jack J. Woehr Director of Development Absolute Performance, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 303-443-7000 ext. 527
Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad
-Original Message- From: Dan Farrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 12:34 PM To: Gabe; Der Engel; misc@openbsd.org Subject: RE: OBSD: OS Of The Rad 'Hard to say'? That response means 'No, I didn't miss his point, I just want to be a hard-ass and then not really address it.' I'm not avoiding the issue of ridiculous hyperbole or opensource project skepticism. He praised the OpenBSD project and those responsible for it... because it's worth praising. Riight. About both parts. Can't someone say something nice here without it being picked apart? The converse: Can something be picked apart even though it is not nice? The Nile isn't just a river in Egypt. I will end on a nice note (call it Leading by Example)... I agree completely with Karl's comments... OpenBSD rocks. Werd. Ducking, Word. Dan Farrell Applied Innovations [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabe Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:37 AM To: 'Der Engel'; misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad Hard to say. His message had a few different themes in it. He spoke about his dedication to the binary machine arts, but then confessed to using an expensive machine as a door stop? And, he praises the use he's gotten from OBSD and the list, but then jinxes it by questioning its direction and bringing up the issue of its lifecycle. I just wanted to bring up the issue of idle time versus cpu time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Der Engel Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 10:31 AM To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: OBSD: OS Of The Rad Umnada, Did you get his point? On 1/4/07, Umnada Tyrolla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I came here to compute, to help inanimate machines do so, well. -this list, more than any other resource (including my old favorite google.com/bsd) got me where I was going. The OS -how long will it last? I hope forever. But nothing lasts forever. I do have an old host that's been up for 1,248 days without reboot, i'm sure there are those on this list with longer. First of all, not everyone likes to share how long, but thanks. Secondly, I think it's not the duration of up-time but rather cpu usage time which says what kind of machine you have. You know what I mean? CPU usage (on a user machine, not some bragbox) says what kind of software and hardware stresses have been going. I've got over 5,961,600 seconds of cpu usage on this machine. And it's not all pf, spamassassin and mplayer. Not all.
ipsecctl problems again
On the almost-latest snapshots ipsecctl kept dumping core on me when trying to start up the VPN, right now on the newest snapshot available it doesn't, but only IPv6 traffic gets encapsulated. Both boxes are: OpenBSD 4.0-current (GENERIC) #1332: Wed Jan 3 21:24:57 MST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC Router ipsec.conf: ike passive esp from any to any \ main auth hmac-sha1 enc aes group modp2048 \ quick auth hmac-ripemd160 enc aes group modp2048 \ srcid [EMAIL PROTECTED] dstid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laptop ipsec.conf: ike dynamic esp from egress to any peer keibi.viq.ath.cx \ main auth hmac-sha1 enc aes group modp2048 \ quick auth hmac-ripemd160 enc aes group modp2048 \ srcid [EMAIL PROTECTED] dstid [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- viq
Re: SUN Fire x2200, anyone?
* Toni Mueller [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-04 18:58]: I'm thinking about using a SUN Fire x2200 M2 as a combo style firewall machine, but could not find any experiences with it. The machine looks nice on paper, but the things stated about the x2100 (integrated RAID) were generally not so encouraging. So I thought I'd better ask... huh? the x2100s are nice machines, and everything works as expected. -- Henning Brauer, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg Amsterdam
NIS and DNS
Dear list members, i have reading Makefiles for building nis databases and realized there is an option -b for allowing hostnames to be retrieved from DNS. Correct me if i am wrong but i understand all hostname spaces are made available for each of the nis domains one is managing after enabling such option. After managing to have yp lookuing up hostnames on DNS what would it be the rationale behind using netgroups for managing hostnames after they all have been made available through DNS usage. Thanks in advance.
compiling tools
This is my first post to a OpenBSD list, so please, if I make any mistake, go on and correct me, I will take anything constructively (like, am I hitting the right list, or the best list for my topic, or violating any rules, such as having longish lines, which I am trying hard to avoid using this Seamonkey editor). OK, I have a fair amount of experience with FreeBSD kernels, but none using OpenBSD. My platform is a teeny little Zaurus, and I am trying to see if I could use some tools such as ccache to speed compilation. I think that the best way for me to use ccache is to be able to revector the CC and C++ compilers ... but I'm not certain, could I just put something like make CC=ccache build as my main compilation command (after, of course, I do the dependencies) and get the compioler revectored to my ccache tool? Other than that, the only thing I have done is to remotely nfs mount src and obj directories onto a big server machine, and have that machine handle my cvs completely remotely, but my real question is abount using cache, or any other suggestion you could toss at me. Thanks!
Re: User authentication
Do you have it working with openbsd too ? I mean for replacing NIS! If not, is there a NIS server that uses openldap as backend for its data ? Is it open source? Wouldn't it be an interesting approach ? Thanks in advance. On 1/4/07, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:18 PM 1/4/2007 +0100, Diego . wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, and use openbsd since 3.8. And now i'm pretty deciced to make it my main server os at work. But i got a question about user authentication. At work all machines are linux machines, and we got 3 windows machines. Network on my work is getting bigger, so i wonder what should be the best way to make centralized user authentication ( including gruops, logon scripts, and some file sharing like home dir ). I know about nis+nfs, OpenLDAP is the best repository, .. it does work with the current version of Samba. We're actually implementing it here for mail users, but have not finished the production version. Lee
qemu support for OpenBSD as a guest on sparc, mips, mipsel, arm, ppc, amd64
Hi, May I know if people have tried out OpenBSD on the following qemu hardware emulators? qemu-system-arm qemu-system-mipsel qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-mips qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-x86_64 I wanted to have an experience of OpenBSD on hardware other than x86 and amd64. SIMH provided a way to experience VAX :-) Just would like to know if other platforms are supported as well before I download the ftp install CD/floppy image. will the SGI port run under mips/mipsel? Thankyou so much :-) kind regards Siju
Re: SUN Fire x2200, anyone?
Hi, On Thu, 04.01.2007 at 22:04:34 +0100, Marc Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes henning, the x2100 are nice machines, but the x2200 are slightly different ;). yes. Apart from other differences, they have 4 NICs on board, instead of only two. @toni: as you might guess, the hardware raid of the nforce chipset doesn't work as hardware raid (except under w2k3 with the driver and maybe under solaris, which i don't have installed). These are my main concerns: Will the hardware raid do any good in the x2200 series, and/or what's the current status with respect to the serial console? SAS is ok if that makes a difference. Best, --Toni++
Re: User authentication
At 07:20 PM 1/4/2007 -0200, Gustavo Rios wrote: Do you have it working with openbsd too ? I mean for replacing NIS! We don't use it for server authentication - our admin crew is small enough that we actually use standard logins. LDAP is the perfect tool for user services like Samba, Email, and web (our applications). Combine LDAP Samba to participate in AD, so that's also a godsend for Windoze shops. If not, is there a NIS server that uses openldap as backend for its data ? Is it open source? Wouldn't it be an interesting approach ? I doubt that would be a good approach - NIS itself is pretty insecure. We have not yet encountered an application that would benefit from LDAP as server authentication, .. as all 'user level' services we encounter already have LDAP authentication modules. Lee
Re: User authentication
Jacob, your aproach is interesting. I will take a look at this. Gustavo, well i'm looking for something to avoid have two differents servers ( samba and nfs ). But, maybe this one is the easiest way. What about login scripts? is it posible? thanks On 1/4/07, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have it working with openbsd too ? I mean for replacing NIS! If not, is there a NIS server that uses openldap as backend for its data ? Is it open source? Wouldn't it be an interesting approach ? Thanks in advance. On 1/4/07, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:18 PM 1/4/2007 +0100, Diego . wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, and use openbsd since 3.8. And now i'm pretty deciced to make it my main server os at work. But i got a question about user authentication. At work all machines are linux machines, and we got 3 windows machines. Network on my work is getting bigger, so i wonder what should be the best way to make centralized user authentication ( including gruops, logon scripts, and some file sharing like home dir ). I know about nis+nfs, OpenLDAP is the best repository, .. it does work with the current version of Samba. We're actually implementing it here for mail users, but have not finished the production version. Lee
Re: User authentication
At 11:06 PM 1/4/2007 +0100, Diego . wrote: What about login scripts? is it posible? If you DID wish to use OpenLDAP for OBSD user authentication, it seems to be possible via Kerberos/heimdal: http://www.pdc.kth.se/heimdal/heimdal.html See the section on 'Using LDAP to store the database'. HTH, Lee
Re: Anone using A8V-VM mother board on OpenBSD 4.0/amd64 and getting proper sound output?
azalia seems to default to 50% volume for some reason on my nvidia chipset amd64 board. so, i actually have this in my rc.local at home: mixerctl -w outputs.mix0c=255,255 you could try turning all your outputs to max volume, since they all appear to be 50% or less. that way you could figure out which one is the master and which one controls the userland audio output and so forth. you can also you could read the azalia driver to see if any comments or source code might explain more of the choices it makes. finally you could try running X11 and aumix, and then watch mixerctl -a to see which values it decides to change (this assumes aumix has any clue of what to do with all these sysctls) $ mixerctl -a record.adc08.mute=off record.adc08=123,123 record.adc09.mute=off record.adc09=123,123 inputs.mix0b.pink18.mu=off inputs.mix0b.pink19.mu=off inputs.mix0b.blue1a.mu=off inputs.mix0b.green1b.m=off inputs.mix0b.unknown1c=off inputs.mix0b.unknown1d=off inputs.mix0b.green14.m=off inputs.mix0b.gray15.mu=off inputs.mix0b.black16.m=off inputs.mix0b.orange17.=off inputs.mix0b.pink18=123,123 inputs.mix0b.pink19=123,123 inputs.mix0b.blue1a=123,123 inputs.mix0b.green1b=123,123 inputs.mix0b.unknown1c=123,123 inputs.mix0b.unknown1d=123 inputs.mix0b.green14=123,123 inputs.mix0b.gray15=123,123 inputs.mix0b.black16=123,123 inputs.mix0b.orange17=123,123 outputs.mix0c=255,255 inputs.mix0c.dac02.mut=off inputs.mix0c.mix0b.mut=off outputs.mix0d=123,123 inputs.mix0d.dac03.mut=off inputs.mix0d.mix0b.mut=off outputs.mix0e=123,123 inputs.mix0e.dac04.mut=off inputs.mix0e.mix0b.mut=off outputs.mix0f=123,123 inputs.mix0f.dac05.mut=off inputs.mix0f.mix0b.mut=off outputs.green14.source=mix0c outputs.green14.mute=off outputs.green14=85,85 outputs.green14.dir=output outputs.green14.boost=off outputs.gray15.source=mix0d outputs.gray15.mute=off outputs.gray15=85,85 outputs.gray15.dir=output outputs.gray15.boost=off outputs.black16.source=mix0e outputs.black16.mute=off outputs.black16=85,85 outputs.black16.dir=output outputs.black16.boost=off outputs.orange17.source=mix0f outputs.orange17.mute=off outputs.orange17=85,85 outputs.orange17.dir=output outputs.orange17.boost=off outputs.pink18.source=mix0c outputs.pink18.mute=off outputs.pink18=85,85 outputs.pink18.dir=input outputs.pink18.boost=off outputs.pink19.source=mix0c outputs.pink19.mute=off outputs.pink19=85,85 outputs.pink19.dir=input outputs.pink19.boost=off outputs.blue1a.source=mix0c outputs.blue1a.mute=off outputs.blue1a=85,85 outputs.blue1a.dir=input outputs.blue1a.boost=off outputs.green1b.source=mix0c outputs.green1b.mute=off outputs.green1b=85,85 outputs.green1b.dir=output outputs.green1b.boost=off inputs.mix22.pink18.mu=off inputs.mix22.pink19.mu=off inputs.mix22.blue1a.mu=off inputs.mix22.green1b.m=off inputs.mix22.unknown1c=off inputs.mix22.unknown1d=off inputs.mix22.green14.m=off inputs.mix22.gray15.mu=off inputs.mix22.black16.m=off inputs.mix22.orange17.=off inputs.mix22.mix0b.mut=off inputs.mix23.pink18.mu=off inputs.mix23.pink19.mu=off inputs.mix23.blue1a.mu=off inputs.mix23.green1b.m=off inputs.mix23.unknown1c=off inputs.mix23.unknown1d=off inputs.mix23.green14.m=off inputs.mix23.gray15.mu=off inputs.mix23.black16.m=off inputs.mix23.orange17.=off inputs.mix23.mix0b.mut=off outputs.mix26=123,123 inputs.mix26.dac25.mut=off inputs.mix26.mix0b.mut=off inputs.usingdac=02040305 record.usingadc=08 Siju George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am able to hear only very low sound using the A8V-VM motherboard on OpenBSD 4.0/amd64. Could Somebody help me troubleshoot it please? Details below This mail had already reached misc@ in another form during the holidays. Couldn't find much help :-( Just wondering if this board is a little unsupported :-( Thankyou so much :-) kind regards Siju = $ mixerctl -a outputs.dac02.source=hdaudio inputs.dac03.mute=off inputs.dac03=123,123 inputs.dac04.mute=off inputs.dac04=123,123 inputs.dac05.mute=off inputs.dac05=123,123 outputs.mix09.mute=off inputs.mix09.dac04.mut=off inputs.mix09.dac05.mut=off inputs.sel0a.source=mix07 inputs.sel0b.source=mix07 inputs.sel0c.source=dac04 inputs.sel0d.source=dac05 inputs.sel0e.source=mix08 inputs.sel0f.source=pink1f outputs.sel0f=85,85 inputs.sel10.source=blue20 inputs.sel11.source=sel0f inputs.sel12.source=sel11 outputs.sel12.mute=off outputs.sel12=119,119 outputs.sel13.mute=off outputs.sel13=123,123 outputs.sel14.mute=off outputs.sel14=123 outputs.sel15.mute=off outputs.sel15=123,123 outputs.sel16.mute=off outputs.sel16=123,123 outputs.sel17.mute=off outputs.sel17=123,123 inputs.sel18.source=beep19 outputs.sel18.mute=on outputs.sel18=119 outputs.green1a.mute=off outputs.green1a=123,123 outputs.green1a.boost=on outputs.green1b.mute=off outputs.green1b=123,123 outputs.green1b.boost=off outputs.blue1c.mute=off outputs.blue1c=123,123 outputs.blue1c.dir=output
Re: User authentication
Could it be OpenAFS ? On 1/4/07, Diego . [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jacob, your aproach is interesting. I will take a look at this. Gustavo, well i'm looking for something to avoid have two differents servers ( samba and nfs ). But, maybe this one is the easiest way. What about login scripts? is it posible? thanks On 1/4/07, Gustavo Rios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have it working with openbsd too ? I mean for replacing NIS! If not, is there a NIS server that uses openldap as backend for its data ? Is it open source? Wouldn't it be an interesting approach ? Thanks in advance. On 1/4/07, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:18 PM 1/4/2007 +0100, Diego . wrote: Hello, I'm new on this list, and use openbsd since 3.8. And now i'm pretty deciced to make it my main server os at work. But i got a question about user authentication. At work all machines are linux machines, and we got 3 windows machines. Network on my work is getting bigger, so i wonder what should be the best way to make centralized user authentication ( including gruops, logon scripts, and some file sharing like home dir ). I know about nis+nfs, OpenLDAP is the best repository, .. it does work with the current version of Samba. We're actually implementing it here for mail users, but have not finished the production version. Lee
Re: qemu support for OpenBSD as a guest on sparc, mips, mipsel, arm, ppc, amd64
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 03:08:47AM +0530, Siju George wrote: Hi, May I know if people have tried out OpenBSD on the following qemu hardware emulators? qemu-system-arm qemu-system-mipsel qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-mips qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-x86_64 I wanted to have an experience of OpenBSD on hardware other than x86 and amd64. SIMH provided a way to experience VAX :-) Just would like to know if other platforms are supported as well before I download the ftp install CD/floppy image. will the SGI port run under mips/mipsel? I don't know about any of those, in particular I don't know anything about the SGI port, but an older OpenBSD version (3.8) did work under qemu's i386 emulation. So it seems worth the trouble to actually check the others. Joachim
Re: qemu support for OpenBSD as a guest on sparc, mips, mipsel, arm, ppc, amd64
On Thursday 04 January 2007 13:38, Siju George wrote: Hi, May I know if people have tried out OpenBSD on the following qemu hardware emulators? qemu-system-arm qemu-system-mipsel qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-mips qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-x86_64 I wanted to have an experience of OpenBSD on hardware other than x86 and amd64. SIMH provided a way to experience VAX :-) Just would like to know if other platforms are supported as well before I download the ftp install CD/floppy image. will the SGI port run under mips/mipsel? Thankyou so much :-) kind regards Siju Hi Siju, Though I haven't played with qemu, it seems you are making a very common mistake in your thinking; a complete system is far more than just the processor it contains. For example, there are tons of different processors in the mips family and each one has slight differences. But that is not the real problem when it comes to software support. Each *system* which uses any of the mips processor also contains many other additional chips which supply various functionality like serial ports, hard drive interfaces, types of buses for expansion cards and countless other required pieces of equipment in the system. Having software/compiler support for the particular processor used in a system is only a step in the right direction but is insufficient for operation; you must also have software support (drivers) for the additional chips used in the complete system design. Emulators, like qemu, vmware and similar, normally try to emulate an entire system, not just the particular processor. I had to guess, I would assume the qemu-system-mips emulator is actually emulating one of the old DECstation systems (both the mips CPU *and* the supporting chipsets). If my guess is correct, you would want to use the OpenBSD PMAX port on it. The PMAX port is no longer maintained due to lack of interest but you can still download the old version. Kind Regards, JCR
Re: compiling tools
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 05:52:53PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: This is my first post to a OpenBSD list, so please, if I make any mistake, go on and correct me, I will take anything constructively (like, am I hitting the right list, or the best list for my topic, or violating any rules, such as having longish lines, which I am trying hard to avoid using this Seamonkey editor). Yes, this is the right list; yes, wrapping lines properly is appreciated, but you seem to have managed; and no, I don't see anything blatantly idiotic below. AFAIK, that's enough to avoid the flames. ;-) OK, I have a fair amount of experience with FreeBSD kernels, but none using OpenBSD. My platform is a teeny little Zaurus, and I am trying to see if I could use some tools such as ccache to speed compilation. I think that the best way for me to use ccache is to be able to revector the CC and C++ compilers ... but I'm not certain, could I just put something like make CC=ccache build as my main compilation command (after, of course, I do the dependencies) and get the compioler revectored to my ccache tool? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-miscm=109043549403999w=2 seems to suggest that putting the appropriate CC= line in /etc/mk.conf might work; this is not documented in mk.conf(5). http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openbsd-portsm=116060629621783w=2 suggests likewise, and points to another possible solution, provided you have quite a few Zauruses. However, note that this affects ports *only*. And frankly, I have no idea what your line above might do. It's not supported, that's for sure... Other than that, the only thing I have done is to remotely nfs mount src and obj directories onto a big server machine, and have that machine handle my cvs completely remotely, but my real question is abount using cache, or any other suggestion you could toss at me. Yes - there is one big 'why' in all this. ccache is really useful if you repeatedly rebuild the same thing, and cannot afford to actually rely on make/the makefiles doing the right thing. However, unless you are going to do some hefty development work on that Zaurus, which I really wouldn't recommend, you are unlikely to need to build much of anything on it. If you stick to the patch branch, you'd *never* have to compile anything more than a handful of files; and even if you follow -stable and periodically rebuild everything, you're not going to need to build that much. If, and only if, you wish to follow -current, and the snapshots do not suffice, using ccache might be a good idea. But only then - and even in that case, if you're going to be doing unsupported stuff, you *might* be able to get someone to explain you how to do cross-compilation (I wouldn't know, for OpenBSD; the FAQ suggests it might be possible in 5.11.13, but it is probably not a good idea, as is pointed out in the same place.) Joachim
Re: compiling tools
OK, I have a fair amount of experience with FreeBSD kernels, but none using OpenBSD. My platform is a teeny little Zaurus, and I am trying to see if I could use some tools such as ccache to speed compilation. Yes - there is one big 'why' in all this. ccache is really useful if you repeatedly rebuild the same thing, and cannot afford to actually rely on make/the makefiles doing the right thing. However, unless you are going to do some hefty development work on that Zaurus, which I really wouldn't recommend, you are unlikely to need to build much of anything on it. Quite a few things need building from ports on the ARM arch's (zaurus and armish share packages; building on an N2100 is a reasonably easy and not horrendously expensive way to speed up builds of software to run on a Z). It's a good job some people did some hefty development work on them, or we wouldn't have OpenBSD/Zaurus which is a pretty useful thing.
Re: SUN Fire x2200, anyone?
Toni Mueller wrote on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 10:50:01PM +0100: On Thu, 04.01.2007 at 22:04:34 +0100, Marc Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @toni: as you might guess, the hardware raid of the nforce chipset doesn't work as hardware raid (except under w2k3 with the driver and maybe under solaris, which i don't have installed). These are my main concerns: Will the hardware raid do any good in the x2200 series, and/or what's the current status with respect to the serial console? SAS is ok if that makes a difference. When building a firewall, also consider that RAID might not be useful at all, that it might even be better avoided. If you really need to avoid downtime caused by hardware failures, you ought to have two carp(4)ed machines, anyway - the disks are not the only part prone to failure, after all. When one of the machines fails, switch it off, swap out the (single) hard disk, install a new one, reinstall the system and go back to carp. You are done, without any downtime whatsoever. Thus, RAID is not required for avoiding downtime. What else could it be required for? Minimizing reinstallation time? Installing a firewall should be done in less than half an hour, even much less if you have a good site40.tgz. And how often do you expect you will have to do that? In particular, how often compared to routine upgrades which have to be done a few times in each year, anyway? On the other hand, / on raid can be painful for various reasons. What else would you want to put on RAID in a firewall? Well, /var and /tmp should not be that valuable, so perhaps some user data? Hopefully, there is none, even if you plan some kind of combo style - you should probably not combine your firewall with any server processes handling valuable user data. RAID can be very useful when building e.g. file servers and various other devices - firewalls are the typical place where you might be better off focussing you attention to other parts of the system, avoiding unnecessary complexity of the hard disk setup. For more detailed discussions of this recurring topic, see the archives, in particular various posts by Nick Holland.
moving kernels between machines
I have two machines: - Machine A, a single i386 box without enough disk space to unpack the source tree - Machine B, a two-CPU i386 box running bsd.mp with plenty of disk My questions: 1. For purposes of applying kernel security patches, can I compile a patched kernel on Machine B and just transfer it over to Machine A and reboot? 2. If the answer to (1) is yes, what if anything do I need to do with userland on Machine A? For example, how would I apply patch 001 for 4.0, which is just for httpd? many thanks dn
Re: moving kernels between machines
David Newman wrote: I have two machines: - Machine A, a single i386 box without enough disk space to unpack the source tree - Machine B, a two-CPU i386 box running bsd.mp with plenty of disk My questions: 1. For purposes of applying kernel security patches, can I compile a patched kernel on Machine B and just transfer it over to Machine A and reboot? Of course... :) 2. If the answer to (1) is yes, what if anything do I need to do with userland on Machine A? For example, how would I apply patch 001 for 4.0, which is just for httpd? IF you really know exactly what files are altered, build 'em on your fast, big machine and copy them over to your small machine, making sure you get permissions and such correct. IF you do not know for sure which files are altered, I'd suggest just making your life simple, and follow stable, make a release, and install that on the small machine (and any others). When staying with stable, the process is trivial: unpack all .tgz files (don't forget the 'p' option!!), install the kernel, reboot. If your big, fast machine has some time when no one would notice, you might even want to set it up to periodically make a -stable release for you (yes, the official instructions say reboot between building the kernel and the userland, but since the API doesn't change in -stable, you can almost always get away without the reboot. In fact, on my -stable build machine (actually, a VMware session) at work, I only reboot the thing to make sure the build is good before installing it on a critical machine. AGAIN, if you know exactly what subset of things need to be patched, (for example, httpd), you could just stop and start that one service, but usually, by the time you have figured that all out, you could have just rebooted. See: http://www.openbsd.org/stable.html http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html , especially sections 5.1, 5.4 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#AddFileSet Nick. (who runs ONLY enough -release/-stable to verify the upgradeXX.html instructions are valid)
x2100 M2
I'm thinking about buying the Sun x2100 M2 for OpenBSD 4.0. I've purchased one for a client that's running linux. I set it up but don't admin it. I don't use linux, but I really like the hardware. I want to do RAID1 with it, which the motherboard supports. However, I'm told that the RAID controllers they put on motherboards are just glorified software RAID and don't even compare to real hardware RAID. Further, I don't think that OpenBSD would even work with the motherboard RAID controller - please correct me if I'm wrong. So, I'm looking for a suggested course of action regarding the x2100 M2. Anyone have any experience with it - especially keeping RAID1 in mind? Best Regards, Stephen
USB Keyboard lags when caps lock or num lock is pressed under X
Hello, the subject line pretty much tells it. In console everything works okay except when I do `sudo halt` and it says something like press any key to reboot. At that point it doesn't accept any input to make it reboot. It isn't supposed to work like that, is it? I think this guy [1] had exactly same problem in 2005 regarding the lag in X. [1] http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2005-01/0788.html Here's my dmesg, it's snapshot of current: OpenBSD 4.0-current (GENERIC) #1332: Wed Jan 3 21:24:57 MST 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ (AuthenticAMD 686-class, 256KB L2 cache) 1.90 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE real mem = 804810752 (785948K) avail mem = 725516288 (708512K) using 4256 buffers containing 40366080 bytes (39420K) of memory mainbus0 (root) bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+(00) BIOS, date 09/05/03, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfdaf0, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf0630 (22 entries) bios0: MSI MS-6590 apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: AC on, battery charge unknown apm0: flags 30102 dobusy 0 doidle 1 pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xf7fb0/240 (13 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:17:0 (VIA VT8237 ISA rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf800 0xcf800/0x4400! 0xd4000/0x1800 acpi at mainbus0 not configured cpu0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 VIA VT8377 PCI rev 0x80 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 VIA VT8377 AGP rev 0x00 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 rev 0xa1 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) emu0 at pci0 dev 10 function 0 Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audigy rev 0x03: irq 12 ac97: codec id 0x54524123 (TriTech Microelectronics TR28602) audio0 at emu0 Creative Labs SoundBlaster Audigy Digital rev 0x03 at pci0 dev 10 function 1 not configured Creative Labs Firewire rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 10 function 2 not configured bge0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 Broadcom BCM5788 rev 0x03, BCM5705 A3 (0x3003): irq 10, address 00:0c:76:3e:6d:c4 brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5705 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 2 VIA VT6306 FireWire rev 0x46 at pci0 dev 14 function 0 not configured pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 VIA VT6420 SATA rev 0x80: DMA pciide0: using irq 11 for native-PCI interrupt wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: ST3250824AS wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA48, 238475MB, 488397168 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 pciide1 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 VIA VT82C571 IDE rev 0x06: ATA133, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility pciide1: channel 0 disabled (no drives) atapiscsi0 at pciide1 channel 1 drive 0 scsibus0 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets cd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: PLEXTOR, DVDR PX-708A, 1.08 SCSI0 5/cdrom removable cd0(pciide1:1:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 2 uhci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 0 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 11 usb0 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1 at pci0 dev 16 function 1 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 11 usb1 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci2 at pci0 dev 16 function 2 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 12 usb2 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 uhub2: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci3 at pci0 dev 16 function 3 VIA VT83C572 USB rev 0x81: irq 12 usb3 at uhci3: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 uhub3: VIA UHCI root hub, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ehci0 at pci0 dev 16 function 4 VIA VT6202 USB rev 0x86: irq 10 usb4 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub4 at usb4 uhub4: VIA EHCI root hub, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered viapm0 at pci0 dev 17 function 0 VIA VT8237 ISA rev 0x00 iic0 at viapm0 iic0: addr 0x2f 04=00 06=0b 07=00 0c=00 0d=07 0e=84 0f=00 10=c0 11=10 12=00 13=60 14=14 15=62 16=01 17=06 isa0 at mainbus0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt0 at isa0 port 0x378/4 irq 7 lm0 at isa0 port 0x290/8: W83697HF npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 fd0 at fdc0 drive 0: 1.44MB 80 cyl, 2 head, 18 sec biomask ff65 netmask ff65 ttymask ffe7 pctr: user-level cycle counter enabled mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support uhidev0 at uhub1 port 2
Re: x2100 M2
Stephen Schaff wrote: I'm thinking about buying the Sun x2100 M2 for OpenBSD 4.0. I've purchased one for a client that's running linux. I set it up but don't admin it. I don't use linux, but I really like the hardware. I want to do RAID1 with it, which the motherboard supports. However, I'm told that the RAID controllers they put on motherboards are just glorified software RAID and don't even compare to real hardware RAID. Further, I don't think that OpenBSD would even work with the motherboard RAID controller - please correct me if I'm wrong. So, I'm looking for a suggested course of action regarding the x2100 M2. Anyone have any experience with it - especially keeping RAID1 in mind? Best Regards, Stephen This has been answered, and quite recently ... The X2100's work well with OpenBSD 4.0. The Raid controllers do not, at all. You can use raidframe to do software raid, though I at least have not been able to do an upgrade of a system with its root slices on a raidframe disk. I am of course one of the less sharp tools on the list. Still a tool though ... heh heh heh.
Re: qemu support for OpenBSD as a guest on sparc, mips, mipsel, arm, ppc, amd64
On 1/5/07, Joachim Schipper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 03:08:47AM +0530, Siju George wrote: Hi, May I know if people have tried out OpenBSD on the following qemu hardware emulators? qemu-system-arm qemu-system-mipsel qemu-system-sparc qemu-system-mips qemu-system-ppc qemu-system-x86_64 I wanted to have an experience of OpenBSD on hardware other than x86 and amd64. SIMH provided a way to experience VAX :-) Just would like to know if other platforms are supported as well before I download the ftp install CD/floppy image. will the SGI port run under mips/mipsel? I don't know about any of those, in particular I don't know anything about the SGI port, but an older OpenBSD version (3.8) did work under qemu's i386 emulation. So it seems worth the trouble to actually check the others. Thankyou so much for your reples J.C and Joachim :-) I did get the OpenBSD 4.0/ i386 port installed on qemu. it works fine :-) kind regards Siju
