Re: dysfunctional carp
Hi Dag, So if each system sees only its own carp traffic it makes sense that each would consider themselves master. I assume that the systems can send and receive tcp icmp, and udp traffic. Yes. I've turned pf off just in case. Is it possible that the switch is not carrying multicast traffic?. This could very well be, so I did try the crossover cable. No luck, unfortunately. No carp traffic is coming through. The HP switch these systems were connected to had two carp combos running perfectly, btw. Thanks... Nico
Re: spamd - 250 return text
On 8/4/07, Tom Bombadil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've had a pretty hard time from a client saying how rude this default message is. Even though their tech people didn't care, the people higher up got really offended... Quite understandably I'd say, since these greetings aren't really what we can call friendly... hehe This is seriously one of the most retarded things I've ever heard. Why are the upper people looking at the SMTP conversation anyway? The only way this could possible happen is if the sender bounces on it in which case it's pretty rude to be so completely in violation of standards and best practices. Lars Hansson
Re: Segmentation fault in sh script using base utilities only
On 4 Aug 2007, at 19:31, Andris wrote: Hi, I'm writing a set of small utilities as scripts, and I got a segmentation fault working on one of them. The script is suppoused to align text with spaces. Say you have this file: Foo1\tFoo2 Br\tBar2 Baz Where \t are horizontal tabs. My script would replace the tabs with an adequate number of spaces to align foo2 and bar2. Writing replacement for column -t, huh? Jacek
Re: Segmentation fault in sh script using base utilities only
On 8/5/07, Jacek Masiulaniec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Aug 2007, at 19:31, Andris wrote: Hi, I'm writing a set of small utilities as scripts, and I got a segmentation fault working on one of them. The script is suppoused to align text with spaces. Say you have this file: Foo1\tFoo2 Br\tBar2 Baz Where \t are horizontal tabs. My script would replace the tabs with an adequate number of spaces to align foo2 and bar2. Writing replacement for column -t, huh? Jacek Didn't know about it :P But I'll do it anyway, cause I want it to be a standard and portable script. Thanks!
Re: Segmentation fault in sh script using base utilities only
Andris wrote: On 8/5/07, Jacek Masiulaniec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Aug 2007, at 19:31, Andris wrote: Hi, I'm writing a set of small utilities as scripts, and I got a segmentation fault working on one of them. The script is suppoused to align text with spaces. Say you have this file: Foo1\tFoo2 Br\tBar2 Baz Where \t are horizontal tabs. My script would replace the tabs with an adequate number of spaces to align foo2 and bar2. Writing replacement for column -t, huh? Jacek Didn't know about it :P But I'll do it anyway, cause I want it to be a standard and portable script. I believe column(1), including the -t option, is very standard. It has been around for over 20 years and is included in all the BSDs. I believe it is also in many of the major Linux distros too. Don't reinvent the wheel arbitrarily. See also: sed(1), awk(1), expand(1), colrm(1), paste(1), cut(1), printf(1), and shell's set command That should take care of most of your text processing needs. -pachl
Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD By David Marcus, 2007-08-05 03:41:29 Section: Technology, Topic: I formerly had a great deal of respect, bordering on admiration, for Theo deRaadt's refusals to compromise his open source principles, even in the face of stiff opposition. Although he has occasionally gone over-the-top, recommended some frankly very dubious changes to OpenBSD, and is regularly arrogant (which is even more annoying because he's so often right!), he's always remained consistent in his devotion to the cause of GNU/Free Software. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2007/8/2/15233/84896
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD By David Marcus, 2007-08-05 03:41:29 Section: Technology, Topic: I formerly had a great deal of respect, bordering on admiration, for Theo deRaadt's refusals to compromise his open source principles, even in the face of stiff opposition. Although he has occasionally gone over-the-top, recommended some frankly very dubious changes to OpenBSD, and is regularly arrogant (which is even more annoying because he's so often right!), he's always remained consistent in his devotion to the cause of GNU/Free Software. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2007/8/2/15233/84896 Too bad the author of that article is totally lying. Neither I or the project have no donation relationship with AMD. The only donations the project ever got from AMD were three prototype AMD64 machines. Two were given to us before the AMD64 had even shipped to the public, so that they could benefit from us running on AMD64 cpus. They were desktop machines with Athlon HX processors at 1.6GHz. One is in Sweden, the other in Calgary. One nice thing about those machines is that the BIOS does no self tests, and therefore boots really really fast. The third machine was a quad-cpu Opteron machine the size of a fridge, but that was quite a bit later, and it was surplus to us. I think these were called Melody machines, or a name similar to that. I am sure that we've had more hardware donations from Intel. I am also sure we've had WAY MORE donations from VIA/Centaur, even yet. I'd love to know that there have been more donations from AMD. If there had been, perhaps we could spend them on a hackathon in the future. It's amazing how people these days can just invent commentary out of their ass, and have thousands of people read it and change their bias. It's slander, that's exactly what it is, and I ask that the editors take that article down and force some sort of apologize for it.
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
Hi there, What a crappy article. Whoever gives a sh*t about what that guy wrote, I don't know. But that's just me. For example, notice how he starts the article. The first paragraph is supposed to sound like a compliment but in fact it's an insult. regards, Tobias W. On Aug 5, 2007, at 10:50 PM, chefren wrote: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD By David Marcus, 2007-08-05 03:41:29 Section: Technology, Topic: I formerly had a great deal of respect, bordering on admiration, for Theo deRaadt's refusals to compromise his open source principles, even in the face of stiff opposition. Although he has occasionally gone over-the-top, recommended some frankly very dubious changes to OpenBSD, and is regularly arrogant (which is even more annoying because he's so often right!), he's always remained consistent in his devotion to the cause of GNU/Free Software. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2007/8/2/15233/84896
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
chefren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I formerly had a great deal of respect, bordering on admiration, for This looks very much like something which was hosted at blogspot.com last week. Somebody on #OpenBSD found it, most people found it ridiculous. For some odd reason I have not been able to dig up the exact reference, so it's possible it was removed from blogspot. I'd be surprised if the fact content in this is above 'barely measurable'. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Segmentation fault in sh script using base utilities only
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Andris wrote: Hi, I'm writing a set of small utilities as scripts, and I got a segmentation fault working on one of them. I tried running your script but it did not produce any seg faults. Do you have example input that causes a seg fault? -Otto The script is suppoused to align text with spaces. Say you have this file: Foo1\tFoo2 Br\tBar2 Baz Where \t are horizontal tabs. My script would replace the tabs with an adequate number of spaces to align foo2 and bar2. Right now it works with a file named file in the working directory. Of course this is only temporal. The problem is that I get a segmentation fault when I run it. That never happened to me with a shell script. And I can't see where should be a problem. I'm running OpenBSD 4.1-stable, GENERIC, i386. I don't know if it's important, but I didn't create a swap partition (I'm planning to change this). If someone could light me, I'd be very grateful. Here is the script: #!/bin/sh IFS=' ' file=file for line in ` ${file}`; do fields=`printf '%s' ${line} | sed 's/[^ ]//g' | wc -m` fields=$((${fields} + 1)) if [ ${fields} -eq 1 ]; then printf '%s' ${line} else for field in `jot ${fields}`; do max_width=`cut -f ${field} ${file} | awk '{ l = length($0); if (l m) m = l } END { print m }'` width=`printf '%s' ${line} | cut -f ${field} | awk '{ print length($0) }'` printf '%s' `printf '%s' ${line} | cut -f ${field}` if [ ${field} -lt ${fields} ]; then for i in `jot $((${max_width} - ${width}))`; do printf '.' done fi done fi printf '\n' done
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
On 8/5/07, Tobias Weisserth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, What a crappy article. Whoever gives a sh*t about what that guy wrote, I don't know. Well, there's also the fact that Theo lost part of the $2mil grant from Darpa because of his outspoken opinions. If US$2mil wasn't enough to buy Theo's vote for the war, I have to wonder how much AMD gave OpenBSD to be able to buy Theo's note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe that's why AMD's stock went down so much :) -- This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity. -- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
On 5-Aug-07, at 4:50 PM, chefren wrote: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD By David Marcus, 2007-08-05 03:41:29 Section: Technology, Topic: I formerly had a great deal of respect, bordering on admiration, for Theo deRaadt's refusals to compromise his open source principles, even in the face of stiff opposition. Although he has occasionally gone over-the-top, recommended some frankly very dubious changes to OpenBSD, and is regularly arrogant (which is even more annoying because he's so often right!), he's always remained consistent in his devotion to the cause of GNU/Free Software. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2007/8/2/15233/84896 Oh yeah, because if there's anything Theo's proven during the lifespan of OpenBSD, surely it's that he's available to the highest bidder and he's willing to say or not say anything to keep the money coming. That was an amusing Sunday afternoon diversion but, all-in-all, I'd rather have my 10 minutes back.
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter N. M. Hansteen) writes: This looks very much like something which was hosted at blogspot.com last week. Somebody on #OpenBSD found it, most people found it and found it for me again, just now: http://rolloffle.blogspot.com/. looks like pretty much the same text. -- Peter N. M. Hansteen, member of the first RFC 1149 implementation team http://bsdly.blogspot.com/ http://www.datadok.no/ http://www.nuug.no/ Remember to set the evil bit on all malicious network traffic delilah spamd[29949]: 85.152.224.147: disconnected after 42673 seconds.
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
Thanks for your comments. I have added your response to the story. --R On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 15:06 -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD By David Marcus, 2007-08-05 03:41:29 Section: Technology, Topic: I formerly had a great deal of respect, bordering on admiration, for Theo deRaadt's refusals to compromise his open source principles, even in the face of stiff opposition. Although he has occasionally gone over-the-top, recommended some frankly very dubious changes to OpenBSD, and is regularly arrogant (which is even more annoying because he's so often right!), he's always remained consistent in his devotion to the cause of GNU/Free Software. http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2007/8/2/15233/84896 Too bad the author of that article is totally lying. Neither I or the project have no donation relationship with AMD. The only donations the project ever got from AMD were three prototype AMD64 machines. Two were given to us before the AMD64 had even shipped to the public, so that they could benefit from us running on AMD64 cpus. They were desktop machines with Athlon HX processors at 1.6GHz. One is in Sweden, the other in Calgary. One nice thing about those machines is that the BIOS does no self tests, and therefore boots really really fast. The third machine was a quad-cpu Opteron machine the size of a fridge, but that was quite a bit later, and it was surplus to us. I think these were called Melody machines, or a name similar to that. I am sure that we've had more hardware donations from Intel. I am also sure we've had WAY MORE donations from VIA/Centaur, even yet. I'd love to know that there have been more donations from AMD. If there had been, perhaps we could spend them on a hackathon in the future. It's amazing how people these days can just invent commentary out of their ass, and have thousands of people read it and change their bias. It's slander, that's exactly what it is, and I ask that the editors take that article down and force some sort of apologize for it.
Re: iBGP: losing routes after eBGP flap
Claudio Jeker a icrit : On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 07:56:02PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: Hi, I've got a setup on two i386 family PCs with 4.1-stable which includes the following: Internet 1 - p1 - r1 -- r2 - p2 - Internet 2 r1 and r2 have an iBGP session running, and the Internet connections go to different ISPs, running eBGP on each (r1-p1, r2-p2). I receive full routes from both ISPs mentioned, and have announce all in my iBGP configuration (this is the default, too, but anyway...). Today, I had to take one line down for testing, thus ending the corresponding eBGP session (r1-p1). When the line came back up, it was collecting starting to collect routes from p1 again, as one would expect, but at the same time dropping routes from r2, leaving some 300 routes from the iBGP peer (r2) left. On r2, everything looks normal, it receives a full table from both r1 and p2. So, on r1, I tried to bgpctl nei r2 refresh, but to no avail. What gives? This is more or less expected. iBGP session only transmit eBGP pathes that are valid and best for the router. So on r2 you have all the iBGP routes from r1 and r2 has no reason to send something back to r1 because his routes are not better than the ones from r1. I was observing this behiviour you are describing until yesterday, when i re-installed my two border routers to 4.1, then updated to 4.1-stable. My two borders have now the full tables from each other (iBGP), plus the full route from the peer it's attached to (eBGP). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# bgpctl sh sum Neighbor ASMsgRcvdMsgSentOutQ Up/Down State/PrefixRcvd TRANSIT-11 99584 1212 0 20:09:29 222366 IBGP 7 91488 96015 0 20:09:29 223170 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# bgpctl sh sum Neighbor ASMsgRcvdMsgSentOutQ Up/Down State/PrefixRcvd TRANSIT-24 289859 4204 0 2d22h02m 223141 IBGP 7 192558 301618 0 20:17:45 222315 They both have two route to every network : *3.0.0.0/8 149.6.80.149 100 94101 4 701 703 80 i I 3.0.0.0/8 85.31.195.9100 0 1 3356 701 703 80 i *4.0.0.0/8 149.6.80.149 100 94001 3356 i I 4.0.0.0/8 85.31.195.9100 0 1 3356 i This is not a problem for me, but i had to let you know Best, -- Ronnie Garcia r.garcia at ovea dot com
apachectl configtest rc.conf?
Is there a reason $RCFLAGS is omitted from configtest in apachectl? Currently: configtest) if $HTTPD -t; then : else ERROR=8 fi ;; Should be: ?? configtest) if $HTTPD $RCFLAGS -t; then : else ERROR=8 fi ;;
Yaifo on a Server with fBSD preinstalled...
Hi everbody, I would like to get a OpenBSD installed on a box where a FreeBSD 6.2 is currently installed. I thought about using Yaifo like I did many times before. I just have to face a problem with FreeBSD.: My HDD is ad4s1 and I would like to use dd to simply overwrite the HDD with yaifo.fs but I can't. I get a permission denied (as root!) if I try it. I tried: ad0, ad4, ad4s1, ad4s1c.. all the same. Seriously: Somebody knows how to get RID OF THAT DAMN fBSD and get a OpenBSD at the Box? Inserting a CD is no choice because the Box is about 14000 miles away. Seriously: if root can't write a Image to the HDD (as root) the system is just fucked up and the concepts are braindead But propably I'm lacking leet fBSD skills here... So has somebody more fBSD experience to advise me how I can (without serial consoele nor rescue linux..) I simply apply a Image to the HDD? A simple dd if=yaifo.fs of=/dev/ad4s1 or so would be great! I asked about 4 people already. Either we're all too stupid or there's something we all missed... Kind regards, Sebastian
Re: Segmentation fault in sh script using base utilities only
On 8/5/07, Clint Pachl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andris wrote: On 8/5/07, Jacek Masiulaniec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4 Aug 2007, at 19:31, Andris wrote: Hi, I'm writing a set of small utilities as scripts, and I got a segmentation fault working on one of them. The script is suppoused to align text with spaces. Say you have this file: Foo1\tFoo2 Br\tBar2 Baz Where \t are horizontal tabs. My script would replace the tabs with an adequate number of spaces to align foo2 and bar2. Writing replacement for column -t, huh? Jacek Didn't know about it :P But I'll do it anyway, cause I want it to be a standard and portable script. I believe column(1), including the -t option, is very standard. It has been around for over 20 years and is included in all the BSDs. I believe it is also in many of the major Linux distros too. Don't reinvent the wheel arbitrarily. See also: sed(1), awk(1), expand(1), colrm(1), paste(1), cut(1), printf(1), and shell's set command That should take care of most of your text processing needs. -pachl Standard as in only based in SUS utilities and their behavior.
Re: Segmentation fault in sh script using base utilities only
On 8/5/07, Otto Moerbeek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Andris wrote: Hi, I'm writing a set of small utilities as scripts, and I got a segmentation fault working on one of them. I tried running your script but it did not produce any seg faults. Do you have example input that causes a seg fault? -Otto The script is suppoused to align text with spaces. Say you have this file: Foo1\tFoo2 Br\tBar2 Baz Where \t are horizontal tabs. My script would replace the tabs with an adequate number of spaces to align foo2 and bar2. Right now it works with a file named file in the working directory. Of course this is only temporal. The problem is that I get a segmentation fault when I run it. That never happened to me with a shell script. And I can't see where should be a problem. I'm running OpenBSD 4.1-stable, GENERIC, i386. I don't know if it's important, but I didn't create a swap partition (I'm planning to change this). If someone could light me, I'd be very grateful. Here is the script: #!/bin/sh IFS=' ' file=file for line in ` ${file}`; do fields=`printf '%s' ${line} | sed 's/[^ ]//g' | wc -m` fields=$((${fields} + 1)) if [ ${fields} -eq 1 ]; then printf '%s' ${line} else for field in `jot ${fields}`; do max_width=`cut -f ${field} ${file} | awk '{ l = length($0); if (l m) m = l } END { print m }'` width=`printf '%s' ${line} | cut -f ${field} | awk '{ print length($0) }'` printf '%s' `printf '%s' ${line} | cut -f ${field}` if [ ${field} -lt ${fields} ]; then for i in `jot $((${max_width} - ${width}))`; do printf '.' done fi done fi printf '\n' done Yeap, it segfaults here with: aTbTc daaaTe fs Upper case T are horizontal tabs. It makes OpenBSD freeze too :S
Re: Yaifo on a Server with fBSD preinstalled...
On 8/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everbody, I would like to get a OpenBSD installed on a box where a FreeBSD 6.2 is currently installed. I thought about using Yaifo like I did many times before. I just have to face a problem with FreeBSD.: My HDD is ad4s1 and I would like to use dd to simply overwrite the HDD with yaifo.fs but I can't. I get a permission denied (as root!) if I try it. Is this maybe because that disk is currently mounted?
Re: ifconfig problem - Botched upgrade?
On 8/4/07, L. V. Lammert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:40 PM 8/4/2007 +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: # ifconfig add -A to show all aliases. Bingo - I must have missed that somehow!! Also note this from the hostname.if man page: net alias 10.0.1.15 255.255.255.255 Not having the /32 subnet mask may be why the alias is showing in ifconfig output but the primary address isn't. Greg -- Ticketmaster and Ticketweb suck, but everyone knows that: http://ticketmastersucks.org Dethink to survive - Mclusky
Re: Kuro5hin: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD
Theo de Raadt wrote: OpenBSD Founder Theo deRaadt Has Conflict of Interest With AMD By David Marcus, 2007-08-05 03:41:29 Section: Technology, Topic: snip slander, nyah http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2007/8/2/15233/84896 Too bad the author of that article is totally lying. Neither I or the project have no donation relationship with AMD. The only donations the project ever got from AMD were three prototype AMD64 machines. ... It's amazing how people these days can just invent commentary out of their ass, and have thousands of people read it and change their bias. It's slander, that's exactly what it is, and I ask that the editors take that article down and force some sort of apologize for it. it's so amazing that it makes you ask the question: who funds the person who authored it? i could name a few guesses based on the who benefits? question here but would rather not... ;). speculate amongst yourselves. i felt the earlier story about linus was overtly dismissive of the issues raised. it tastes like shillery.