Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread xcv
"Ingo Schwarze" wrote: > > html { max-width: 100ex; } > > > > Removing this line allows the use of the full browser width. > For testing purposes, i removed that line from > https://man.openbsd.org/mandoc.css > > xcv@, could you check with your phone whether

Re: pledge violation in firefox-60 on snapshots

2018-05-18 Thread Renato Aguiar
Hi, Firefox 60 stopped crashing for me after adding mcast to security.sandbox.pledge.main. Regards, -- Renato Aguiar

Syspatch's SHA256 and SHA256.sig no hash for ipsecout patch

2018-05-18 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
Hi, The SHA256 and SHA256.sig files in /pub/OpenBSD/syspatch/6.3/amd64 don't contain the hash for syspatch63-008_ipsecout.tgz. Is this on purpose or simply a mistake? Kind regards, Martijn Rijkeboer

Open source RISC-V 64bit w ECC RAM & PCIe this summer

2018-05-18 Thread Joseph Mayer
4-core (5-core?) 1.5Ghz, 8GB DDR4 ECC RAM, two PCIe slots (one one-lane and one two-lane PCIe 2.0?), SATA, gigabit ethernet, microSD, HDMI, UART. https://www.sifive.com/products/hifive-unleashed/ https://www.crowdsupply.com/microsemi/hifive-unleashed-expansion-board 21 more available in lower

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Fabio Scotoni
On 05/18/2018 06:11 AM, Stuart Longland wrote: > On 18/05/18 12:09, Ken M wrote: >> In all honesty I wasn't thinking of the suggestion as a cautious one because >> of >> bloat. I think bootstrap minified and compressed is like 20k. I mean how big >> is >> the entire man page collection? > >

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Jan Stary
On May 17 22:09:58, k...@mack-z.com wrote: > In all honesty I wasn't thinking of the suggestion as a cautious one because > of > bloat. I think bootstrap minified and compressed is like 20k. I mean how big > is > the entire man page collection? Wrong question. $ ftp http://man.openbsd.org/du $

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Walter Alejandro Iglesias
In article <20180518004729.gl68...@athene.usta.de> Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Aner, > > Aner Perez wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM -0400: > > On 05/17/2018 05:22 PM, x...@dr.com wrote: > >> "Ingo Schwarze" wrote: > > >>> Absolutely not. > >>> Mandoc

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Alexander Hall
On May 18, 2018 4:09:58 AM GMT+02:00, Ken M wrote: >In all honesty I wasn't thinking of the suggestion as a cautious one >because of >bloat. I think bootstrap minified and compressed is like 20k. I mean >how big is >the entire man page collection? Well, bloat isn't only

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
schwa...@usta.de (Ingo Schwarze), 2018.05.18 (Fri) 02:47 (CEST): > Hi Aner, > > Aner Perez wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM -0400: > > On 05/17/2018 05:22 PM, x...@dr.com wrote: > >> "Ingo Schwarze" wrote: > > >>> Absolutely not. > >>> Mandoc output is not optimized

Re: Open source RISC-V 64bit w ECC RAM & PCIe this summer

2018-05-18 Thread Peter Kay
>4-core (5-core?) 1.5Ghz, 8GB DDR4 ECC RAM, two >PCIe slots (one one-lane >and one two-lane PCIe 2.0?), SATA, gigabit ethernet, >microSD, HDMI, >UART Neat, but horribly slow and expensive. Raptor CS, on the other hand, are releasing the POWER9 based Talos II Lite soon, and also (apparently) the

Re: Is -current snapshot only used in current system?

2018-05-18 Thread Nick Holland
On 05/16/18 05:42, Nan Xiao wrote: > Hi Peter & Otto, > > Thanks very much for your response! > > My laptop is very old: Fujitsu LifeBook T5010 > (https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2352819,00.asp) . > > During booting, it shows: > >>>OpenBSD/amd64 BOOT 3.39 "very old" and "amd64" is the

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Lars Noodén
1) For experimentation with CSS, many browsers have a web tool box that can be opened with ctrl-shift-i or similar shortcut and can change the CSS on-the-fly manually. That is a quick way test CSS rules such as the viewport [1] rule being discussed. This seems to be the CSS equivalent of the

Fair Pay In Cyberspace!

2018-05-18 Thread Ywe Cærlyn
The Fair Pay In Cyberspace is nearing completion of philosophy. From: https://nyt.cloud/showthread.php?tid=2=2#pid2 Background and Points So Far: I believe that the ultimate iteration of the computational mindset, will be "Fair Pay In Cyberspace". Homecomputers started with Eniac-1. It

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Marc Espie wrote on Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:28:31AM +0200: > On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 10:51:43PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> x...@dr.com wrote on Tue, May 15, 2018 at 07:47:45PM +0200: >>> The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and >>> usability on my phone when I add it to

Re: Open source RISC-V 64bit w ECC RAM & PCIe this summer

2018-05-18 Thread Karel Gardas
On Fri, 18 May 2018 12:11:49 +0100 Peter Kay wrote: > >4-core (5-core?) 1.5Ghz, 8GB DDR4 ECC RAM, two >PCIe slots (one one-lane > >and one two-lane PCIe 2.0?), SATA, gigabit ethernet, >microSD, HDMI, > >UART > > Neat, but horribly slow and expensive. Raptor CS, on

Re: Open source RISC-V 64bit w ECC RAM & PCIe this summer

2018-05-18 Thread Karel Gardas
On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:30:13 -0400 Joseph Mayer wrote: > 4-core (5-core?) 1.5Ghz, 8GB DDR4 ECC RAM, two PCIe slots (one one-lane > and one two-lane PCIe 2.0?), SATA, gigabit ethernet, microSD, HDMI, > UART. > > https://www.sifive.com/products/hifive-unleashed/ > >

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Bryan Steele
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 02:47:29AM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > Hi Aner, > > Aner Perez wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM -0400: > > On 05/17/2018 05:22 PM, x...@dr.com wrote: > >> "Ingo Schwarze" wrote: > > >>> Absolutely not. > >>> Mandoc output is not optimized for

Re: readability on phones - man pages on gopher

2018-05-18 Thread Solene Rapenne
x...@dr.com writes: > The "viewport" meta tag significantly improves readability and > usability on my phone when I add it to http://man.openbsd.org pages: > > [meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0"] > > It was suggested to me by a Microsoft Edge engineer as a fix

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread IL Ka
> > > If it is not a secret, what runs behind man.openbsd.org? Like httpd, CGI? > According to response headers: "Server: OpenBSD httpd". And with httpd(8) it must be FastCGI implemented either by perl script directly or with aid of slowcgi(8)

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Mihai Popescu
I have tested it on someone's Safari/iOS for iPhone, out of curiosity. It takes the full screen. Looking at the font in the posted screenshots i think it is Android in question. If it is not a secret, what runs behind man.openbsd.org? Like httpd, CGI? Thanks.

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread justina colmena
On Fri, 18 May 2018 23:50:24 +0300 Mihai Popescu wrote: > I have tested it on someone's Safari/iOS for iPhone, out of curiosity. > It takes the full screen. Looking at the font in the posted > screenshots i think it is Android in question. > > If it is not a secret, what runs

Re: Open source RISC-V 64bit w ECC RAM & PCIe this summer

2018-05-18 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Everybody loves the idea of an open-source CPU that can be uploaded to an FPGA processor. Anybody from China who starts selling a mini-itx board and an FPGA fast enough to run risc-v will turn the market on its head in 6--10 years, killing both Intel and AMD. ARM is fabless already...

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Lars, Lars Nooden wrote on Fri, May 18, 2018 at 06:37:26PM +0300: > 2) Regarding CSS, keeping the viewport settings in the CSS would > allow the presentation and structure to remain more separate. Exactly what i said in my last mail, it doesn't belong into the HTML. > So something

Re: Open source RISC-V 64bit w ECC RAM & PCIe this summer

2018-05-18 Thread Peter J. Philipp
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 03:31:51PM +0200, Karel Gardas wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2018 02:30:13 -0400 > Joseph Mayer wrote: > > > 4-core (5-core?) 1.5Ghz, 8GB DDR4 ECC RAM, two PCIe slots (one one-lane > > and one two-lane PCIe 2.0?), SATA, gigabit ethernet, microSD,

OT: Temperature sensors suggestions?

2018-05-18 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Does anyone have a decent temperature sensors that can connect to an OpenBSD server and be reliable and give any decent reading via either USB or Serial port or even stand alone via Ethernet? I asked because yes I can use the sensors on some servers, but I got a pretty expensive router blowing up

Re: OT: Temperature sensors suggestions?

2018-05-18 Thread Base Pr1me
If you want, i'd be happy to discuss my setup offline. I've got lots of code in GitHub already, that you could modify. There are other temp only i2c sensors that would work too. On May 18, 2018 16:38, "Daniel Ouellet" wrote: Thanks, That look interesting. I wonder how the

Re: Viewport for man.openbsd.org -- readability on phones

2018-05-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Mihai Popescu wrote on Fri, May 18, 2018 at 11:50:24PM +0300: > I have tested it on someone's Safari/iOS for iPhone, out of curiosity. > It takes the full screen. Looking at the font in the posted > screenshots i think it is Android in question. I don't understand what you are trying to

Re: pledge violation in firefox-60 on snapshots

2018-05-18 Thread William Orr
Stuart Henderson writes: > On 2018-05-16, William Orr wrote: >> Clicking the password field will consistently cause that tab in firefox >> to crash with a pledge violation (calling fork): >> >> firefox[75379]: pledge "proc", syscall 2 >> firefox[99617]: pledge "proc",

Re: OT: Temperature sensors suggestions?

2018-05-18 Thread Base Pr1me
I roll SHT31-Ds through ESP8266s via I2C. Of course, there is programming involved. Good hardware though, if that's what you're looking for. On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 2:42 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > Does anyone have a decent temperature sensors that can connect to an >

Re: OT: Temperature sensors suggestions?

2018-05-18 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Thanks, That look interesting. I wonder how the wifi works on this ESP8266 module. It's so cheap that it's nothing lost to try. (; Will see if I get other suggestions, but that's interesting and may well be fun to program a driver for the SHT31-D too. (; Daniel. On 5/18/18 5:53 PM, Base